Neither game puts the other to shame, in my opinion.

I think both games are brilliant, so I just voted "Fallout IS Oblivion...just with guns."

Edit: Shouldn't this be in "Fallout 3 General Discussion"?

Oblivion is one of the best games ever for me period. If you love Oblivion, then you'll love Fallout 3. Same freedom, living world around you, sandbox game. Just more of a modern setting. These two games are the only ones I'll ever need.

nothing wrong with oblivion.

and from what my friend has told me.

nothing wrong with fallout.


cant compared them, one is a Sword and Spell RPG, the other is an FPS RPG.

apples and oranges man.

They're basically the same thing. It'll basically come down to what setting you prefer, the post apocalyptic world of Fallout or the fantasy world of Oblivion.

They both have the same flaws and both have the same good points. The fact they've had a little longer with the engine means Fallout seems to run better than Oblivion but as a game there isn't much different between them. The major thing Oblivion has over Fallout 3 right now is the CS, that adds soo much to a game and should really have been released with the game for FO3.

I just wanted to make sureit was definitely worth getting before I spend $50 on it.

judging by ur anwers, it definitely is...thx

Fallout wins just because of better looking NPCs. Really, Andy Stahl and even Gob aren't really hurting my eyes, then again I have yet to encounter a Kalthar-looking person so early in the game.

Oblivion - Still the best - The Best Things of Oblivion are the Green trees and nice colored plants. It has alot of color.
The next best thing was the Night skies, they were just breathtaking to look at while you were walking around.
The best of all things was its character generator and its MAP. You could change everything about your character, even the age! The Map was clear and easy to look at.


Fallout 3 - The dark color grey at night is very tiresome on the eyes after a while with no color anywhere.
Days are just as bland. So I have to say coloring was alot beter in Oblivion.
The character generator is like in the old Morrowind - pretty basic and simple.
The map sould of been in color - not green! I'm sure they would still have LCD's laying around. There should be an upgrade available to give a new pipboy with color annd better picture clarity like the map in Oblivion.
(All this is refering to the Xbox360 and PS3 versions. I am allredy told that there will be better maps for the pc version.)

I am sorry, but I disagree with practically everything you said.

The Best Things of Oblivion are the Green trees and nice colored plants. It has alot of color.
Which certanly makes it look very cartoonish, IMO. Besides, Fallout 3 is SUPPOSED to look... wasted! Fallout 3 is the aftermath of a nuclear war, Oblivion is a Disneyland simulation.

The next best thing was the Night skies, they were just breathtaking to look at while you were walking around
That should not be to hard to create, when the game takes place in a fantasy world. Fallout has to (again) represent the real world. So you can't really compare them like that.

The best of all things was its character generator and its MAP. You could change everything about your character, even the age! The Map was clear and easy to look at.
The character generator? You mean that dull process you make in the prison before the games starts? The map in Fallout 3 is made way more realistic than in Oblivion. And that is MORE important than an acurrate map, when we are talking roleplaying games IMO.

Fallout 3 - The dark color grey at night is very tiresome on the eyes after a while with no color anywhere.
I have already adressed this, but here I go again: The sky in Fallout has to resemble the real world night-sky. Not like the everyday-is-wonder-day nightsky of Oblivion.

Days are just as bland. So I have to say coloring was alot beter in Oblivion
What did you expect? Accoriding to the Fallout lore, there haven't been a drop of rain on earth for hundreds of years. Again, the game is SUPPOSED to look bland, dull, gray and WASTED!

The character generator is like in the old Morrowind - pretty basic and simple
WHAT!? Fallout 3's character generation have nothing in common with the Morrowind character generation (beside the hint about the sweetroll question from MW)
Oblivion's character generation SET THE STAGE for Fallout 3. Bethesda took the same generation function, expanded it, and placed it in the game in a much much cooler way! (You see your own birth for gods sake!)

The map sould of been in color - not green! I'm sure they would still have LCD's laying around. There should be an upgrade available to give a new pipboy with color annd better picture clarity like the map in Oblivion.
What do you mean by "an upgrade like in Oblivion" ?

That's the color that the Pip-Boy use, and it would only be wierd and unrealistic to suddenly change that.

Fallout 3 may actually be benthesa's best game so far. Maybe its because f3 is designed to be more traditional rpg than a sandbox game like previous benthesa games. It has the kind of roleplaying depth that I never expected to see in benthesa's game. Quests aren't just one dimensional rollercoaster rides and storytelling has really improved. In fact benthesa shines in ways that I didn't belive it was possible for them. SKill system that actually is fun and a skill system which doesn't encourage/require to powergame. You can play this game in so many ways that it puts oblvion in shame. Dialogs, storytelling, setting, hand crafted locations..basicly everything is like from a whole other plane of existence. No too obvious leveled lists, no handholding quest pop ups, no awfull red arrow telling you where to go (yes you have a compass, but it actually is part of pipboy's map screen and it doesn't give away too much or distract you at all).

Just to clarify yes I like oblvion and morrowind a lot and I still play them, but it requires quite many mods to get them right. Morrowind not as much as oblivion though:)

loved oblivion, but i cant describe the immersion of fallout 3. in oblivion you where these specticles that makes you thinck trolls and picking herbs is a day to day thing, in real live you walk out your door and your looking for the nearest plant in case you can pick something of it. after playing fallout you walk out your door and just image your whole street as a derlict wasteland.

If you play fallout 3 with the lights off and atleast 4 maybe 6 hours for the first sitting you will be addicted IMO oh and dont go looking for spoilers or where to find this and that it can ruin the experiance.

the guys have done a great job. yeah its a bit gray and wasted but thats a great part. it should of had a bit more color but what the hay. awsome graphics.

yeah the map is a tad weird. but i thinck its got a great fallout-esque feel to it the boxes and the green.

the major factor that this has over oblivion is the commpanions they dont have enough personality but they are alwasy there following you and halping you with oblivion they were useless and after lv10 would die in a second. Store all you junk and change there armour now thats a cool feature and i would check out any rpg just for that.

the story was good, tugs a couple of heart strings if you feel what you play. ending was betting than what most people are claiming and the options you get are megga.

quests are much better i kill mr joe blogs the quest giver "oops what have i just done" go and talk to his wife, son, best mate trying to not put any spoilers in here but some one else will most probley have the quest.

the melle and hand to hand is identical to oblivion, the first time you swing a weapon its oblivion. as soon as some one starts shooting at you and you run over and smash there knee caps you reliase i just smashed his leg off. hell yeah.

Keys to this game, take your time, dont read spoilers or guides or anything along those lines, travel everywhere, use fast travel only when your on one side of map and you need to get to the other.

And the best part about this game, the very best part is how you feel so evil when you wipe out a whole town just beacuse you wanted five more stimpacks. Muhahahahah
or trying to play the nice way alot harder and more challanging.

oblivion you made one character then realised wait if i'm a mage i can do everything and anything. invis, pick locks, fire res, take a few potions and carry the world on my shoulders.
with fallout the charcter you make will have a personality he/she/that will be limited and your chooses or lack of choosing something will make you thinck oops or ha ha YEAH lol

put it this way ive played it three times.

Evil energy user with power armour.
Good cow girl with hunting rifle wears leather armour.
and a nutrel mr migaggy hand to hand combat with just normal cloths no armour.

im sorry for being so positive about this game and you must understand i don't wish to piss you off but go out and buy this game yesterday. trust me if like rpgs any rpg you will get at least 10 hours of play, 50 if you think its reasonable and infinite if your one of those 100% completionist and i mean infinite kill one guy someone else has his quest, go here first, go there first. so on and so on.

buy it have fun and walk the desert. buy oblivion and power game to hell. both fun both completley diffrent. but fallout is not oblivion with guns, its oblivion without the fairy's(elfs) and orcs, potions replaced by drugs and addiction.

i rate this game a 9/10 beacuse my xbox red-lighted 10 out of 10 if it hadn't.

I was puzzled by these reasons for not liking the game as well. :rolleyes:

It was if the poster had no concept of what the game he had bought was supposed to be about. Oblivion is better because it had trees and plant colour, how would that have worked in a post apocalyptic setting?

The pipboy map made me laugh out loud at how retarded some people are. The whole gameworld is supposed be styled according to a 1950's retro future feel. In the 1950's computer screens were cheap green panels with no colour.

Your pipboy 3000 is supposed to be an ugly green lcd screen in the manner 50's style technology how the hell can a green lcd screen produce a nice colour map?

I know there is an age rating on Fallout 3 but I also think a huge expansive open world game like this with an advlt plot and complex story development should come with a reccommend IQ rating so perspective gamers can see at a glance if they are intelligent enough to truly enjoy and appreciate the game.

I suggest maybe a minimum required IQ level of 90 and a recommended rating of 120 or higher to get the full enjoyment.

Oblivion is the superior game, period.

That fans love Fallout 3 shows where Bethesda is headed for TES V (and where games are headed generally) more than it says anything about the quality of Fallout 3.

"Fallout 3 is better than Oblivion" is simply Bethesda's creation of a green light for themselves, through hype, to make TES V (and whatever other title) smaller, shorter, simpler, zoned, more narrow, more MMORPG-like, more dumbed-down and console-friendly.

And Fallout 3 is not just Oblivion With Guns. If it was, it would be a great game; but it is not, because it is clearly a step backwards from Oblivion.

Besides draw distance, frames per second and maybe quality of NPC faces and some tighter world geometry outdoors, name a single thing (especially when it comes to design or core mechanics) that Fallout does better, something that is revolutionary or is even a minor detail that other games of its type don't go the extra mile and do.

Name one.

Is it the zones and invisible walls that are better? The 2-piece armor sets? The vast areas with no encounters or quests? The fewer number of NPCs, quests and sidequests? The single main quest (which is shorter) instead of four? The way you clip into world geometry or get stuck on it? The filler NPCs that are nothing but eye candy? The MMORPG-inspired collect crap for cash quests? The way NPCs don't follow up with you in dialogue after quests are completed? The un-joinable factions? The anti-climactic ending? The lack of a compelling narrative and real NPC interaction? The totally un-visceral gunplay, despite the gore? The graphics-free list inventory? The manipulable alignment system where I can slaughter a town but them become an angel if I give some dude enough water?

I could go on, but that's plenty.

Please, enlighten me. Tell me what Fallout 3 actually does better, besides stating you like the setting better. Be specific and tell me how Fallout 3 improves on Oblivion.

Not too get too off topic, but "You Can" change the color of your pip boy and the your stat screen that shows up while playing.

It's in Settings-Display options.

If Oblivion can rub some mod polish on Fallout 3 than I'll surely give F3 a month's workout of play time...

I like them both, but Fallout 3 is superior, especially in the RPG department

Modded Oblivion wins hands down for me, but once the CS comes out for Fallout 3, and epic scale mods like FCOM are made for it, that will change
Thus I voted Oblivion for now, but we'll see as time progresses.
If we're talking about out of the box what's better, Fallout 3 wins easily, it has a TON of things to find, people to talk too, and places to explore, dwarfing Oblivion in every way.

I like them both in equal measure, and I believe they can't be compared because they are different genres of games.

My honest opinion:

Fallout 3 is, at its least, in the same league as Oblivion...

but...

it is the consensus that Oblivion has the better ending by a mile.

It s just not comparable, Oblivion is a totally different game style. Fallout 3 is more a shooter/"RPG" game, Oblivion is more a game in the line of the other games in the elder scrolls. Also, the Fallout-elements form the previous games and general ideas about the Fallout concept re certainly one of the biggest factors along with the implementation of that by Bethesda.