ok so I recently updated to FWE 5.0, and I think I got the load order wrong. Any help is appreciated.

anyone know if it needs straightening out? ive gotten a bunch of random freeze ups I did'nt get before updating.

The only thing I can point out right now (too tired to go threw the list, very sorry) is that you have a few MMM esps that are already included in FWE. Take out all the "no" ones and I am not positive about the other 3 but I think they may need to be removed as well.

You are also going to need a few of the patches to get FWE, MMM, and WMK to work nicely together. Check the FWE topic for the link to the patches

ok moved a few things around, havent deleted/added much, but now ive got an ungodly amount of lag. its so bad, I hit "TAB" and it takes a minute for the pipboy to open up fully. any deletion suggestions/rearrangings? new order-

My suggestion, based on my own and a http://www.gamesas.com/index.php?/topic/1084547-starting-over-with-installing/page__view__findpost__p__15803819.

Fallout3.esm
StreetLights.esm
DCInteriors_ComboEdition.esm
WYB.esm
Enhanced Weather - Rain and Snow.esm
CRAFT.esm
CALIBR.esm
FO3 Wanderers Edition - Main File.esm
Mart's Mutant Mod.esm
CRAFT - Activation Perk.esp
CALIBRxMerchant.esp
Stealthboy Recon Armor - CRAFT.esp
dD-Less Blood Time, Larger Blood.esp
NoLockTopic.esp
NoKnockedOverComments.esp
AfrosNukaCola.esp
BlackWolf Backpack.esp
BlackWolf Backpack - Blank's Container Patch.esp
01AtM - Firefly Ranch.esp
Feng Shui.esp
Portable Camp.esp
GTent-FWE.esp
Friendly Portable Turrets.esp
RZW_PortableLamps.esp
Essential Caravan Merchants.esp
FLAK.esp
Fellout-Full.esp
Enhanced Weather - Rain and Snow in Fallout.esp
Enhanced Weather - Weather Sounds in Interiors.esp
FO3 Wanderers Edition - Main File.esp
FO3 Wanderers Edition - Followers Enhanced.esp
FO3 Wanderers Edition - Optional Free Play After MQ.esp
WeaponModKits.esp
WeaponModKits - FWE Master Release.esp
EVE.esp
EVE - FWE Master Release.esp
Mart's Mutant Mod.esp
Mart's Mutant Mod - FWE Master Release.esp
Mart's Mutant Mod - Hunting & Looting.esp ----------- Included with FWE. Not needed.
Mart's Mutant Mod - Tougher Traders.esp ----------- Included with FWE. Not needed.
Mart's Mutant Mod - Natural Selection.esp ----------- Included with FWE. Not needed.
Mart's Mutant Mod - No Corpse Flies.esp ----------- Included with FWE. Not needed.

Some I have no idea what they are so they're in the middle. My miscellaneous mods, that none of the overhauls conflict with, are in the middle before all the overhauls.
Also, I don't see a merged patch. You;ll need one. Either by creating one yourself or Mez's Merged Patch found under Optional Files on the http://fallout3nexus.com/downloads/file.php?id=2761

What Mystyk says.

Also make sure you have the Fallout 3 Multicore fix applied(google it if you dont know what it is).

ok I feel stupd. what I have here is half of my list. so all the MMM "NO" things are included in FWE? what about increased sawns/feral ghoul rampage/zones respawn and Reduced wasteland spawns(All .esp) and your talking about Mez's merg patch right? downloading it now.

Increased Spawns, Feral Ghoul Rampage, Reduced Wasteland Spawns, all those extra plugins are included in FWE. They're configurable through the FWE controller thingie in your inventory.
You really only need the first two - Mart's Mutant Mod.esp & Mart's Mutant Mod - FWE Master Release.esp . If you were using the DLC's you'd include those as well.
IMO it's always a good thing when you can trim down your load order

deleted all the extra MMM stuff, downloaded GNR MWTCF and enclave commander 8.0. Now i get a freeze-up as soon as the "Please stand by" screen comes up and it crashes to desktop, even with them deactivated. Any ideas on what i did wrong?

You said you downloaded the Mez merged patch? You can't use that cause you don't have any of the DLC's


If you aren't using it, please post your new current load order so we can further help you

Fallout3.esm
StreetLights.esm
DCInteriors_ComboEdition.esm
WYB.esm
Enhanced Weather - Rain and Snow.esm
CRAFT.esm
CALIBR.esm
FO3 Wanderers Edition - Main File.esm
Mart's Mutant Mod.esm
CRAFT - Activation Perk.esp
CALIBRxMerchant.esp
Stealthboy Recon Armor - CRAFT.esp
dD-Less Blood Time, Larger Blood.esp
NoLockTopic.esp
NoKnockedOverComments.esp
AfrosNukaCola.esp
BlackWolf Backpack.esp
BlackWolf Backpack - Blank's Container Patch.esp
01AtM - Firefly Ranch.esp
Feng Shui.esp
Portable Camp.esp
GTent-FWE.esp
Friendly Portable Turrets.esp
RZW_PortableLamps.esp
Essential Caravan Merchants.esp
FLAK.esp
Fellout-Full.esp
Enhanced Weather - Rain and Snow in Fallout.esp
Enhanced Weather - Weather Sounds in Interiors.esp
FO3 Wanderers Edition - Main File.esp
FO3 Wanderers Edition - Followers Enhanced.esp
FO3 Wanderers Edition - Optional Free Play After MQ.esp
WeaponModKits.esp
WeaponModKits - FWE Master Release.esp
EVE.esp
EVE - FWE Master Release.esp
Mart's Mutant Mod.esp
Mart's Mutant Mod - FWE Master Release.esp
Mez's Merged Patch 5-0 - DLC-FWE-WMK-MMM.esp
GalaxyNewsRadio100[M].esp