Scourge of the Lich Father question. : III

» Tue Mar 15, 2011 12:06 am

Yesterday i started playing Scourge of the Lich father. And i am now on a mission for the Brotherhood of Shadows to find and retrieve 3 crystals. And immediately the first room i enter i find a Ogrim who wants a stew. I have looked all over the monastery but i have no clue about where to find this stew?

Do i have to search in Goldington somewhere?

» Mon Mar 14, 2011 12:56 pm

If I remember correctly, search around in the Brotherhood's base, there should be a stew recipe somewhere. If all fails, have a look at http://www.youtube.com/user/ReymasofAshborne, he did those quests around chapter 6-7 I think.

» Mon Mar 14, 2011 5:13 pm

Ok i will, thanks Logorouge.

» Tue Mar 15, 2011 2:02 am

If you go to the kitchens, there will not only be a recipe for the stew, but all the ingredients you need.

Most of the Brotherhood quests are formulaic. Go to test, learn rules, return to base, find solution, return to test, implement.

» Mon Mar 14, 2011 8:06 pm

If you go to the kitchens, there will not only be a recipe for the stew, but all the ingredients you need.

Most of the Brotherhood quests are formulaic. Go to test, learn rules, return to base, find solution, return to test, implement.

Yeah i noticed that. Turned out that i hat most of the ingredients for the so-called "stew". The only thing i actually still needed was the juicy meat. No problem with sneak and the Amulet of Shadows.

» Mon Mar 14, 2011 9:48 pm

From what I recall, the kitchen staff will let you yoink whatever you need. But yeah, I love that amulet!

» Tue Mar 15, 2011 4:34 am

Darn i never tried that out first, i immediately assumed that everything in the kitchen hat ownership to that guy in there...oh well does not matter any more.

» Tue Mar 15, 2011 5:26 am

Ok next question. I am doing the Theft quest (The Honey pot), i have spread the rumor around town and my journal shows that i should go see Katashi. But she has no dialogue option for this quest? I tried putting the item in the unlocked chest from where you get the Shadow armor, and i then waited 24 hours but nothing happens?

» Mon Mar 14, 2011 9:49 pm

I don't remember this one too well, but what should happen is that she has you check in the item, then sleep in the bed downstairs. You'll be awoken in the night, and when you go up have a well-equipped baddy to fight. There should be dialogue indicating this though. Have you tried all her conversation options?

Also, have you spread the rumor to enough people yet?

» Tue Mar 15, 2011 4:05 am

For the rumors you must speak with every vendors in Goldington, including the publican and maybe some customers, the khaajit banker (Katashi i think) has no dialogue with the exception of one greeting initiated by an entry in the journal stating you have spread enough rumors about the glass shipment.
By the way the chest for this quest is the one in the right corner as opposed to the door and the nearest to Katashi, she will unlock itwhen you speak with her or provide you with the key.
By the way I think the honey pot is another quest ( Ring of Pain) this one is the true Bal Molagmer

» Tue Mar 15, 2011 4:59 am

I don't remember this one too well, but what should happen is that she has you check in the item, then sleep in the bed downstairs. You'll be awoken in the night, and when you go up have a well-equipped baddy to fight. There should be dialogue indicating this though. Have you tried all her conversation options?

Also, have you spread the rumor to enough people yet?

Yeah i tried all of her conversation options, she only has 4. The last one is from Antares Big Mod.

http://i176.photobucket.com/albums/w172/Illius_photos/TES/MWScreenShot47.jpg

As for the rumor..well the TG Operative told me that 3 or 4 where enough, and after the third person i got the journal entry that mentioned i should go talk to Katashi?

For the rumors you must speak with every vendors in Goldington, including the publican and maybe some customers, the khaajit banker (Katashi i think) has no dialogue with the exception of one greeting initiated by an entry in the journal stating you have spread enough rumors about the glass shipment.
By the way the chest for this quest is the one in the right corner as opposed to the door and the nearest to Katashi, she will unlock itwhen you speak with her or provide you with the key. By the way I think the honey pot is another quest ( Ring of Pain) this one is the true Bal Molagmer

The TG Operative i spoke with told me that all it takes is 3 or 4 people, and as i mentioned above i got the journal entry after the third person. I spoke with all the people i found on the street,(Including the Imperial guard and the Sheriff) i spoke with all shopkeepers and everyone inside the Dragon Perch. If i need to find a fourth person then...where and why did the journal update then? :blink:

» Mon Mar 14, 2011 1:35 pm

First...what UI replacer is that? Looks nice.

Second...huh. The quest was pretty straightforward when I did it. You may be having a dialogue conflict.

» Tue Mar 15, 2011 5:15 am

First...what UI replacer is that? Looks nice.

Second...huh. The quest was pretty straightforward when I did it. You may be having a dialogue conflict.

The UI Replacer is this one, i use it together with the LoFi version.

http://planetelderscrolls.gamespy.com/View.php?view=Mods.Detail&id=6159

And i hope not, if that is the case do you know how i can find out what topic to add via the console?

» Mon Mar 14, 2011 3:05 pm

open the console, click on Katashi, type in the console :
add topic "glass"
don't forget to take the glass cuirass from the chest
then talk to her topic glass

The bug himself is probably due to the fact somebody already talked to you under the topic "glass" and this conflict with her nolore script.

» Mon Mar 14, 2011 6:28 pm

open the console, click on Katashi, type in the console :
add topic "glass"
don't forget to take the glass cuirass from the chest
then talk to her topic glass

The bug himself is probably due to the fact somebody already talked to you under the topic "glass" and this conflict with her nolore script.

The strange thing is that no matter how often i tried that the topic did not get aded to Katashi. So i started up MWEdit and started searching for theft and Glass . In the end i was able to finish the theft quest by opning the console and typing the following lines;

Player->RemoveItem "glass_cuirass" 1

Player->AddItem "dan_key_katashi" 1

journal "Dan_Go_05" 60

That way i could enter the cellar and sleep there as intended and wait for the thief.

» Tue Mar 15, 2011 4:27 am

Very strange. I wonder if there are any mods in your load order that have in some way removed or co-opted the "Glass" topic.

» Tue Mar 15, 2011 1:46 am

Quit possible, but i would not know which Mod.

My current Load Order;

Spoiler

Masters for Desdemon0000.ess:
001 Morrowind.esm
002 Tribunal.esm
003 Bloodmoon.esm
004 Texture Fix 1.8.esm
005 Bloodmoon Landscape Overhaul 1.0.esm
006 The Undead.esm
007 Morrowind Patch v1.6.5-BETA.esm
008 Morrowind Advanced.esm
009 abotWaterLife.esm
010 Better Bodies.esp
011 Slof's Better Beasts b.esp
012 Maned Khajiit.esp
013 Neo's Unique Creatures.esp
014 Minions of House Dagoth.esp
015 Real_wildlife_2b Complete.esp
016 MW_Adv_Required.esp
017 DreadKnight.ESP
018 Twin Blades of Azzinoth.esp
019 Lilarcor_v4-1.esp
020 AshlanderTentDX.esp
021 AshlanderTentDX - NOM Addon.esp
022 The Sable Dragon 1.5.esp (Version 1.5)
023 Lich Father Act I.esp
024 Lich Father Act II.esp
025 TVwofs.esp
026 correctUV Ore Replacer 1.0.esp
027 dxm_metallic_signs.esp
028 ring_teleport cost_Tealpanda.esp
029 Glowing Atronachs.esp
030 Westly_Presents_Unique_Corprus_Stalkers.esp
031 AlleywayTrader.esp
032 NEDE v1.2.esp
033 Spect Sorcery pt 1.esp
034 RAMF_Mer_for_NPCs.esp
035 AIM_MW_TB_BM_1dot0.esp
036 BirthsignsAMFun_BM.esp
037 farrp_Quivers-FletchingKit_V2-5.esp
038 Starfires NPC Additions ver-1.11.esp
039 Weavers Plugin.ESP
040 Increased DB Attacks.esp
041 NX9_Guards_Complete.ESP
042 Antares' Big Mod 5.esp
043 Books of Vvardenfell.esp
044 Vurt's Ashlands Overhaul.esp
045 Vurt's Grazelands Trees.ESP
046 Authentic Signs IT 1.1.esp
047 UniqueFinery.esp
048 Key Replacer Trib & BM.esp
049 Clean Key Replacer MW Renamer.esp
050 Clean Welcome to the Arena! ( LoFi ).esp
051 Save Skill Books.esp
052 Madd Leveler - Base.esp
053 Madd Leveler - Cap Remover.esp
054 Madd Leveler - Madd Health.esp
055 Madd Leveler - Madd Skills.esp
056 Madd Leveler - Quest Cap Remover.esp
057 TLM - Ambient Light + Fog Update.esp
058 TLM - Light Sources (Clearer Lighting).esp
059 TLM - Light Sources (Lanterns).esp
060 Better Skulls.ESP
061 SimpleSeasons_v1.0.esp
062 10xdifficultyslider.esp
063 Gluby's Creature Loot Mod v1.11.esp
064 NoM_Creatures Loot Standard.esp
065 NoM 3.0.esp (Version 3.02)
066 Nymeria's Monthly Respawn.esp
067 Natural Attribute Restoration - messageboxes.esp
068 SkillUpLedger.esp
069 Expanded Sounds.esp
070 TLM - NPC Light Sources.esp
071 Water Level Fix - Full.esp
072 Mashed Lists.esp

» Mon Mar 14, 2011 4:09 pm

The only thing I see offhand that I know would have a major effect on dialogue is Antares Mod, but as I don't use that one myself I really can't say one way or the other. I'd suggest moving your quest mods further down the load order to reduce conflicts. However, my personal preference is not to rework the load order on an existing game, since that in itself can sometimes cause conflicts. Probably just unnecessary caution on my part, but I still don't recommend it without making a backup. Not that any of that is likely to be news to you. :hehe:

» Mon Mar 14, 2011 1:40 pm

The only thing I see offhand that I know would have a major effect on dialogue is Antares Mod, but as I don't use that one myself I really can't say one way or the other. I'd suggest moving your quest mods further down the load order to reduce conflicts. However, my personal preference is not to rework the load order on an existing game, since that in itself can sometimes cause conflicts. Probably just unnecessary caution on my part, but I still don't recommend it without making a backup. Not that any of that is likely to be news to you. :hehe:

Indeed it is not new to me.

Last night i actually did thought about rearranging my mods, but i do remember another character where that caused quit a few problems afterwards indeed. Although i have to admit that it was a character from a long time ago, and MCP is extremely handy. Still...unless there is no absolute reason to rearrange then i will keep it as it is at the moment.