Before You Flame

I can't stand Team Fortress. I don't know if its the cartoony look, the strict class base play or the simplicity of it all, I don't know, I just get this gut wrenching feeling everytime I even think about it. My worry is this game will just be a suped up Team Fortress. I would LOVE to know that my fears are unfounded but I still have this sickening feeling I'll open it up, pop it in and BAM, Team Fortress 3.

I love Battefield games; CoD, Halo and MW games are...bareable, to mention some of my likes. I know this game will be much more objective than just kill, kill, kill...but please, please convince me it won't turn into a Team Fortress redo.

If you read that and still feel the need...flame on.

Since when could you customize your weapons in Team Fortress other than name and desc tags?

I can go on.. But yeah, I don't think this is that much like TF2 except for some class similiarities, really - This wont be kill-based if the devs keep what they promise

I feel it's more like a TimeSplitters meets Quake Wars, but then Ive never played team fortress.

Good point. And I do LOVE customization.

Character Customization so every body has their own unique look.
tons of guns that you can customize nearly every part
3 different body types with 4 different class types.
Each class is fully customizable with skills

Doesn't sound like team Fortress

Yep, aside from the classes (which are highly flexible) and the unique art style there's really not much similarity here.

The thing that comes first in mind when I think of TF2 is that sometimes killing the enemies can be really hard because the speed is so over the top, and the guns vary so much.

Unlike TF2, this game does not have weapons that are that unbelievably specialized. Meaning that classes don't effect on what weapons you use, they are all pretty standard, and killing is quite fast, nowhere near as fast as MW or BF though (although light body types can drop pretty fast).
And although this game is very fast paced with SMART, the characters are not as ridiculously fast as scout in TF2.

Right there with you on the tf2 hate, its so far removed from the original that it became totally pointless to play with all of the spammers and stupidly unbalanced weapons.


On that note did you ever play Wolf:ET? The guys @ SD have slated Brink as ET3 and if it ends up being even a 1/4 as good it'll keep you entertained for quite a while

the fact that you like COD caused you to loose all credibility as a gamer
just an FYI

CoD was good up until MW2, after that it just... ugh.. But that's what happens when all your company cares about is money.

He said they were bearable not that he liked them, there is a slight difference and i'm sure you like games that others don't so was this even necessary?
[sarcasm] For your lack of reading and spelling skills you lose all credibility and posting rights [/sarcasm]

Capt. America is right! It's like any game that ends up being a series and gets a truckload of money thrown @ it... take guitar hero for example that went on for way too long and all the spin-offs that followed were equally as bad, or final fantasy (it just took longer to svck)

I think I played a multiplayer demo of it WAY back on the xbox. I think I liked it but never got the full game for some reason. If I recall Halo 2 was comoing out then and I was a bigger fan of Halo then. Course my timeline could be completely screwed up.

Yeah, TF2 borrowed heavily from W:ET, which splash damage made; not the other way around. TF2 was a fun distraction for a few weeks, W:ET was a fun distraction for months/years (and still is).

Pretty sure it wasn't ported to 360 but i could be wrong considering i don't own a 360, it was released in May 03 iirc and halo2 was released around Nov 04.

Might want to take a look @ it, people still play it

Sorry to point out a misconception you seem to have but W:ET was a reworking of the formula that the original TF already had (they obvious added new ideas and changed it around a bit).
The original TF was released in 1996, then came TF Classic in 1999 and then TF2 in 2007 - if you look @ my previous post you will see that W:ET was released in may 03 long after both TF & TF Classic were.

It's only a clone of tf2 if they implement the phrase "get on the point dumb ass."

I spent many a late night playing TFC, probably one of my favorite HL mods. It was mad fun running around as the spy, playing dead, then backstabbing a dude as he walks past your corpse. :disguise:
Its a shame they ruined TF2 with all this new unlockable [censored]. If I wanted to play a Korean MMO I'd play Exteel.

Never got into TFC but i remember many a weekend pulling 45 hour sessions on TF waaaaaaaaay back in highschool

Yeah its a total joke now, but thankfully Brink will be nothing like that.

Yep, though I'd add that W:ET was pretty much RtCW with xp and more weapons added (both I consider to be one of the best team focused online FPS released to date). Given that RtCW was the successor to one of the grandfathers of modern FPS Wolf3D (the best pc mag cover disk I've ever had ever) I'd say the genes are good.

Lol thanks for that but i didn't think it needed to be said the same way that "TF was a mod for Quake 1" doesn't either
Although if you didn't know and want more useless information, W:ET was supposed to be a commercial expansion for RTCW but got released as a free multi-player TC instead.

I remember not being able to play Wolf3D on my old XT with a CGA monitor, it was awesome for its day

Hmm, fair point lol

I still say that ET > TF, and this is far more like an ET game so there's nothing to worry about.

Pretty obvious I know, but seemed neccessary to connect to Wolf3d, which blew my mind as a kid. A shareware game with 10 levels of a completely new genre that was better than nearly every game I'd bought before, can't get much better than that! 1640 with an EGA here (I know, lucky begger for the time!), which sure beat the 8086 mono piece of rubbish the family had before it.

Enough of nostalgia corner and boring the young'uns and back on topic.

Concerning the OP, I kinda agree, TF2 didn't click with me either, maybe the cartoon graphics, the lack of head hitboxes except for snipers (definitely), the vast array of MMO style gadgets / weapons / stupid crates, etc. One think I definitely don't like is the rock / paper / scissor style of gameplay, where one class has large advantages over another in combat, leading to a more pigeon holed experience rather than the more free flowing combat of RtCW / ET / QW. A fun game, but no lasting appeal personally.

I hate to be a dead-beat but I'd have to agree with the above comment. Since, hmmn maybe, CoD 4 (?) the franchise has just become a joke. Little boys will fork out $100 every time a new game comes out in the Call of Duty line-- even if it's Call of Duty: The Black & White Silent Documentary or something.

BRINK does so well in that it's d.i.f.f.e.r.e.n.t. to every other game that modern gamers play.