Game is crashing... : III

» Mon Mar 14, 2011 3:45 pm

My game was working previously. But now it crashes every time I try to reload my games. But I can successfully start a new game.

I have also installed a few replacers recently:

Almalexia, Plangkye
Vurts mods
Azura, Psymoniser
Chrysamere, Jayson
Containers, AOF
Flasks, Qarl
Mehrunes Razor, Plangkye
Moonsugar, Korana
Ring Texture Fix
Soulgem, Hedgehog?
Trueflame, Plangkye

Spoiler

[Game Files]
GameFile0=Better Heads Bloodmoon addon.esm
GameFile1=Better Heads Tribunal addon.esm
GameFile2=Better Heads.esm
GameFile3=Bloodmoon.esm
GameFile4=Book Rotate.esm
GameFile5=GDR_MasterFile.esm
GameFile6=GOTYFullTidyZeroMPPv2.01.esm
GameFile7=H.E.L.L.U.V.A._Merchant_Containers.esm
GameFile8=MCA.esm
GameFile9=MW_Children_1_0.esm
GameFile10=Morrowind Patch v1.6.5-BETA.esm
GameFile11=Morrowind.esm
GameFile12=TR_Data.esm
GameFile13=TR_Mainland.esm
GameFile14=Tribunal.esm
GameFile15=AEA-Compatibility.esp
GameFile16=Animated Morrowind 1.0.esp
GameFile17=Antares' Big Mod 4 - MCA 5.2 - patch.esp
GameFile18=Antares' Big Mod 5.esp
GameFile19=Ashes.esp
GameFile20=Atronach Expansion X.ESP
GameFile21=BB Dark Brotherhood by Westly.esp
GameFile22=Better Bodies.esp
GameFile23=Better Clothes_v1.1.esp
GameFile24=Better Skulls.ESP
GameFile25=Book Jackets - Bloodmoon - BookRotate.esp
GameFile26=Book Jackets - Morrowind - BookRotate.esp
GameFile27=Book Jackets - Tribunal - BookRotate.esp
GameFile28=Book Rotate - Bloodmoon v5.3.esp
GameFile29=Book Rotate - Tribunal v5.3.esp
GameFile30=Books of Vvardenfell.esp
GameFile31=CM_Minor_Quests_1.2.esp
GameFile32=Class Abilities 3.1.esp
GameFile33=Clean A Call to Issilar.esp
GameFile34=Clean Bloated Caves.esp
GameFile35=Clean Book Additions.ESP
GameFile36=Clean ComprehensiveChargen.esp
GameFile37=Clean Creatures.esp
GameFile38=Clean New Suran Extended CoM 1.5.esp
GameFile39=Clean adamantiumarmor.esp
GameFile40=Clean bcsounds.esp
GameFile41=Clean chapelsv2.esp
GameFile42=Clear Ice.esp
GameFile43=Complete Armor Joints.esp
GameFile44=Constant Effect Additions.ESP
GameFile45=DN-GDRv1.esp
GameFile46=DN_Carrot.esp
GameFile47=DS_Mazken & NX9_daedra_additions.ESP
GameFile48=DX_CreatureAdditionsV1.0.esp
GameFile49=Dagger of Symmachus.esp
GameFile50=Dirnae's Slower Walk.ESP
GameFile51=Elemental Magicka 1.0 - MWSE Patch.ESP
GameFile52=Elemental Magicka 1.0.esp
GameFile53=EmmasTowns.ESP
GameFile54=ExpansionIntegration.esp
GameFile55=Fair Magicka Regen (one Percent).esp
GameFile56=FemaleBoiledNetchCuirass.ESP
GameFile57=FemaleDaedricCuirass.ESP
GameFile58=FemaleDragonscaleCuirass.ESP
GameFile59=FemaleEbonyCuirass_TB.ESP
GameFile60=FemaleGlassCuirass.ESP
GameFile61=Fligg's Slave Mod.esp
GameFile62=Fliggerty's Fleeing Fetchers.esp
GameFile63=GDR09_Aleft.ESP
GameFile64=GOTYSTMPPPatchv1.0.esp
GameFile65=Gladiator.esp
GameFile66=Go To Jail 3.5 - T B.esp
GameFile67=Greater Undead.esp
GameFile68=H.E.L.L.U.V.A. Awesome Armor_Completion Set.esp
GameFile69=Hold it replacer.esp
GameFile70=Hold it-COM addon.ESP
GameFile71=IceNioLivRobeReplacerPLUS.esp
GameFile72=Kogoruhn ruins 1.0.ESP
GameFile73=LGNPC_AldVelothi_v1_20.esp
GameFile74=LGNPC_Aldruhn_v1_20.esp
GameFile75=LGNPC_GnaarMok_v1_10.esp
GameFile76=LGNPC_HlaOad_v1_32.esp
GameFile77=LGNPC_IndarysManor_v1_51.esp
GameFile78=LGNPC_Khuul_v2_10.esp
GameFile79=LGNPC_MaarGan_v1_20.esp
GameFile80=LGNPC_NoLore_v0_83.esp
GameFile81=LGNPC_PaxRedoran_v1_20.esp
GameFile82=LGNPC_Pelagiad_v1_22.esp
GameFile83=LGNPC_SecretMasters_MCA5.esp
GameFile84=LGNPC_SecretMasters_v1_30.esp
GameFile85=LGNPC_SoulSicknessPatch_v1_00.esp
GameFile86=LGNPC_TelMora_v1_20.esp
GameFile87=LGNPC_VivecFQ_v2_10.esp
GameFile88=LGNPC_VivecRedoran_v1_50.esp
GameFile89=LeFemmArmor.esp
GameFile90=Less Generic Tribunal.esp
GameFile91=Less_Generic_Bloodmoon.esp
GameFile92=Less_Generic_Nerevarine.esp
GameFile93=LeveledMagicka.esp
GameFile94=Lgnpc_SN.esp
GameFile95=Lights_300_V4.esp
GameFile96=Living Statues of Malacath.esp
GameFile97=MD_Azurian Isles.esp
GameFile98=MW_Public_Library.esp
GameFile99=Mashed Lists.esp
GameFile100=Minions of House Dagoth.esp
GameFile101=MiscastModv3.0.esp
GameFile102=Mournhold Expanded COM NC.esp
GameFile103=Museum of Artifacts Improved Expanded.esp
GameFile104=NX9_Guard_LGRedoran_Patch.ESP
GameFile105=NX9_Guard_LGTrib_patch.ESP
GameFile106=NX9_Guards_Complete.ESP
GameFile107=NX9_dremora.esp
GameFile108=NX9_lesserdaedra.ESP
GameFile109=NX9_liches.esp
GameFile110=Neo's Unique Creatures.esp
GameFile111=New Argonian Bodies - Clean.esp
GameFile112=New Gnaar Mok COM Patch.ESP
GameFile113=New Gnaar Mok.ESP
GameFile114=New Khajiit Bodies - Clean.esp
GameFile115=New Khajiit Diversity(BEAST).esp
GameFile116=New Veloth's Judgement.esp
GameFile117=OR_Fang.esp
GameFile118=OR_ForkH.esp
GameFile119=OR_SkullCs.esp
GameFile120=OR_SpiritEat.esp
GameFile121=Particle Arrow Replacer.esp
GameFile122=Pearls Enhanced - Colored Pearls Add-on.ESP
GameFile123=Prison Moon Enhanced.esp
GameFile124=Psy_VGR_Armour.esp
GameFile125=RAMF_for_NPCs.esp
GameFile126=RW2B_NoTownCreatures.ESP
GameFile127=Random Missions - In Service to Mephala - Starfire's NPC Additions.esp
GameFile128=Real_wildlife_2b Complete.esp
GameFile129=Redaynia Village.esp
GameFile130=Silt Strider Armor - Ashlander Guards.ESP
GameFile131=Silt_Striders_Are_In_Vvardenfell.esp
GameFile132=SpzInteriorDaylight.esp
GameFile133=Sri Alchemy BM List Patch.esp
GameFile134=Sris_Alchemy_BM.esp
GameFile135=THE_UNDERGROUND_2.esp
GameFile136=TVwofs.esp
GameFile137=Thieves Guild Fences.esp
GameFile138=UAR_ChodalaBoots.esp
GameFile139=UG2PhaseC_v07.esp
GameFile140=Undeads - Skeletons Arise from Death II.esp
GameFile141=UniqueFinery.esp
GameFile142=Vality's Bitter Coast Addon.esp
GameFile143=Vivec Expansion 2.0.esp
GameFile144=Vurt's AI Trees Replacer.esp
GameFile145=Vurt's Grazelands Trees.ESP
GameFile146=Vurt's Leafy West Gash.ESP
GameFile147=Vurt's Solstheim Trees & Bushes Replacer.ESP
GameFile148=Westly's Master Headpack X.esp
GameFile149=Westly_Presents_Unique_Corprus_Stalkers.esp
GameFile150=Windows Glow - Bloodmoon Eng.esp
GameFile151=Windows Glow - Raven Rock Eng.esp
GameFile152=Windows Glow - Tribunal Eng.esp
GameFile153=Windows Glow.esp
GameFile154=abotWhereAreAllBirdsGoing.esp
GameFile155=abotWindowsGlow.esp
GameFile156=almalexia armor.esp
GameFile157=equimanthrone.esp
GameFile158=indybank.esp
GameFile159=master_index.esp
GameFile160=md_daedralord_staffs.ESP
GameFile161=md_replacer_mod.ESP
GameFile162=sm_DwemerStaves.esp
GameFile163=sm_creatures_01.esp
GameFile164=sm_creatures_02.esp
GameFile165=sm_goblinshman.esp
GameFile166=sm_necro_staff.esp
GameFile167=sm_summonexpanded.esp

» Mon Mar 14, 2011 8:25 pm

What was the most recent mod you downloaded before the crashes began? That's probably going to be the thing that's causing the saves to crash...

» Mon Mar 14, 2011 9:09 pm

You should really need to use http://code.google.com/p/mlox and http://www.gamesas.com/index.php?/topic/1106095-wrye-mash-stand-alone/ (python isn't required) to fix your mod list.

The WMSA has http://www.gamesas.com/index.php?/topic/1106095-wrye-mash-stand-alone/page__view__findpost__p__16669322 that Wrye Mash (python is required) doesn't have, so I would recommend that you use WMSA.

» Tue Mar 15, 2011 5:56 am

Well I DO use mlox and my load order is (apparently) fine. And it isn't reporting any conflicts. So WMSA will be able to help with new functions as well?

» Mon Mar 14, 2011 5:03 pm

The most recently installed mods were those replacers. The Morag Tong Armor. Oriphier weapon replacers. Clear Ice.

» Tue Mar 15, 2011 3:50 am

Well I DO use mlox and my load order is (apparently) fine. And it isn't reporting any conflicts. So WMSA will be able to help with new functions as well?

Yes. You can http://www.fliggerty.com/phpBB3/viewtopic.php?p=63078#p63078 to any tool you want in the utilities tab.

I think you're now aware of that Wrye Mash can repair saved games files in the Saves tab, but the best part is that you don't need python.

» Mon Mar 14, 2011 3:56 pm

scary, i installed Korana's stuff and quarls flasks.. and clearice yesterday

stalker?

» Tue Mar 15, 2011 2:40 am

Anything in your warnings.txt? Is the save all nice and purple in Mash?

A few thoughts:
Are you using v6 or later of MCA? There's a v6-specific patch for "Antares' Big Mod 5.esp", it also includes Minions of House Dagoth

Pretty sure the latest Less Generic Tribunal is called "Less_Generic_Tribunal.esp" rather than "Less Generic Tribunal.esp", pretty sure that wouldn't be a CTD-causing thing though.

Apparently you're supposed to replace "THE_UNDERGROUND_2.esp" with "UG2PhaseC_v07.esp", do you have the latest mlox rules (2010-10-25)? As that last one's in there.

Doubt it's Clear Ice Equipment as I've been running that for ages.

[From what I've read the new things in standalone Wrye Mash are really pretty unimportant].

» Mon Mar 14, 2011 1:39 pm

Yes. You can http://www.fliggerty.com/phpBB3/viewtopic.php?p=63078#p63078 to any tool you want in the utilities tab.

I think you're now aware of that Wrye Mash can repair saved games files in the Saves tab, but the best part is that you don't need python.

I tried repairing the save file and it doesn't change anything, MW still CTDs. I've tried making a new save game and then loading it. CTD.

scary, i installed Korana's stuff and quarls flasks.. and clearice yesterday

stalker?

Well, you were talking about replacers, soooo

Oh, and I made my own clear glass mod. Don't know why. Just because I can.

And yes, I am stalking you. I have your IP fool!

Anything in your warnings.txt? Is the save all nice and purple in Mash?

A few thoughts:
Are you using v6 or later of MCA? There's a v6-specific patch for "Antares' Big Mod 5.esp", it also includes Minions of House Dagoth

Pretty sure the latest Less Generic Tribunal is called "Less_Generic_Tribunal.esp" rather than "Less Generic Tribunal.esp", pretty sure that wouldn't be a CTD-causing thing though.

Apparently you're supposed to replace "THE_UNDERGROUND_2.esp" with "UG2PhaseC_v07.esp", do you have the latest mlox rules (2010-10-25)? As that last one's in there.

Doubt it's Clear Ice Equipment as I've been running that for ages.

[From what I've read the new things in standalone Wrye Mash are really pretty unimportant].

Save purple? It's green, is that not right?

I downloaded the newest version of mlox and got updated versions of a few mods. Still no dice.

Warnings. The video errors are my fault. I don't believe it's what's causing the CTD.

Spoiler

Could not find the movie file bethesda logo.bik.
Script 'sm_FLS_01' in file 'sm_summonexpanded.esp' has not been compiled.
Script variable "murderedAlvisTeri" not found for dialogue type Topic
Info "EMPTY"
Interior Cell 'The Luminer Realm' trying to become Exterior Cell (-15, -8)!
Unable to locate object 'dwarven hammer' in Leveled Item 'random_dwemer_weapon'.
Unable to locate object 'dwarven longbow' in Leveled Item 'random_dwemer_weapon'.
Unable to locate object 'dwarven bolt' in Leveled Item 'random_dwemer_weapon'.
Unable to locate Enchanting 'cruel_spark_ma_en'.
Unable to locate Enchanting 'cruel_flame_ma_en'.
Unable to locate Enchanting 'cruel_poison_ma_en'.
Unable to locate Enchanting 'cruel_frost_ma_en'.
Unable to locate Enchanting 'cruel_flame_ma_en'.
Unable to locate Enchanting 'cruel_frost_ma_en'.
Unable to locate Enchanting 'cruel_poison_ma_en'.
Unable to locate Enchanting 'cruel_spark_ma_en'.
Unable to locate Enchanting 'dire_flame_ma_en'.
Unable to locate Enchanting 'dire_frost_ma_en'.
Unable to locate Enchanting 'dire_poison_ma_en'.
Unable to locate Enchanting 'dire_spark_ma_en'.
Unable to locate Enchanting 'dire_flame_ma_en'.
Unable to locate Enchanting 'dire_frost_ma_en'.
Unable to locate Enchanting 'dire_poison_ma_en'.
Unable to locate Enchanting 'dire_spark_ma_en'.
Unable to locate Enchanting 'dread_flame_ma_en'.
Unable to locate Enchanting 'dread_frost_ma_en'.
Unable to locate Enchanting 'dread_poison_ma_en'.
Unable to locate Enchanting 'dread_spark_ma_en'.
Item "dwemer_towershield" not found on "construct_male_combat".
Item "dwarven bolt" not found on "construct_female_scan".
Could not find the movie file mw_logo.bik.
Not able to find Foot part in BC_shoes_common_1.
Expression Error Unable to find object "SF_agent_DELF_F1" in script HV_RMMT_MakeTarget2.
Not able to find Foot part in BC_shoes_expensive_03.
Not able to find Foot part in BC_shoes_common_4.
Not able to find Foot part in BC_shoes_common_4.
Not able to find Foot part in BC_shoes_common_4.
Not able to find Foot part in BC_shoes_common_4.
Not able to find Foot part in BC_shoes_common_1.
Not able to find Foot part in BC_shoes_common_2.
Not able to find Foot part in BC_shoes_common_1.

Oh and it crashes right when it finishes loading the area.

I'll try that with UG2PhaseC_v07.esp, didn't notice that.

» Mon Mar 14, 2011 10:14 pm

GameFile8=MCA.esmGameFile9=MW_Children_1_0.esmGameFile12=TR_Data.esmGameFile13=TR_Mainland.esmGameFile17=Antares' Big Mod 4 - MCA 5.2 - patch.espGameFile18=Antares' Big Mod 5.espGameFile23=Better Clothes_v1.1.espGameFile26=Book Jackets - Morrowind - BookRotate.espGameFile44=Constant Effect Additions.ESPGameFile99=Mashed Lists.espGameFile167=sm_summonexpanded.esp

Save purple? It's green, is that not right?

I think these mods is somehow related to the error messages you see in the warnings.txt and I suggest that you start with these mods first.

Spoiler

Script 'sm_FLS_01' in file 'sm_summonexpanded.esp' has not been compiled.Script variable "murderedAlvisTeri" not found for dialogue type TopicInfo "EMPTY"Interior Cell 'The Luminer Realm' trying to become Exterior Cell (-15, -8)!Unable to locate object 'dwarven hammer' in Leveled Item 'random_dwemer_weapon'.Unable to locate object 'dwarven longbow' in Leveled Item 'random_dwemer_weapon'.Unable to locate object 'dwarven bolt' in Leveled Item 'random_dwemer_weapon'.Unable to locate Enchanting 'cruel_spark_ma_en'.Unable to locate Enchanting 'cruel_flame_ma_en'.Unable to locate Enchanting 'cruel_poison_ma_en'.Unable to locate Enchanting 'cruel_frost_ma_en'.Unable to locate Enchanting 'cruel_flame_ma_en'.Unable to locate Enchanting 'cruel_frost_ma_en'.Unable to locate Enchanting 'cruel_poison_ma_en'.Unable to locate Enchanting 'cruel_spark_ma_en'.Unable to locate Enchanting 'dire_flame_ma_en'.Unable to locate Enchanting 'dire_frost_ma_en'.Unable to locate Enchanting 'dire_poison_ma_en'.Unable to locate Enchanting 'dire_spark_ma_en'.Unable to locate Enchanting 'dire_flame_ma_en'.Unable to locate Enchanting 'dire_frost_ma_en'.Unable to locate Enchanting 'dire_poison_ma_en'.Unable to locate Enchanting 'dire_spark_ma_en'.Unable to locate Enchanting 'dread_flame_ma_en'.Unable to locate Enchanting 'dread_frost_ma_en'.Unable to locate Enchanting 'dread_poison_ma_en'.Unable to locate Enchanting 'dread_spark_ma_en'.Item "dwemer_towershield" not found on "construct_male_combat".Item "dwarven bolt" not found on "construct_female_scan".Could not find the movie file mw_logo.bik.Not able to find Foot part in BC_shoes_common_1.Expression Error Unable to find object "SF_agent_DELF_F1" in script HV_RMMT_MakeTarget2.Not able to find Foot part in BC_shoes_expensive_03.Not able to find Foot part in BC_shoes_common_4.Not able to find Foot part in BC_shoes_common_4.Not able to find Foot part in BC_shoes_common_4.Not able to find Foot part in BC_shoes_common_4.Not able to find Foot part in BC_shoes_common_1.Not able to find Foot part in BC_shoes_common_2.Not able to find Foot part in BC_shoes_common_1.

You can use http://www.elricm.com/nuke/html/modules.php?op=modload&name=Downloads&file=index&req=getit&lid=100 to search for almost everything.

If you found something important then try to fix it and repeat that for each mod you have in your LO.
I know this is a long shot, but you have nothing to loose (game progress could be lost).

edit - I almost forgot to tell this...

move mashed lists.esp to the last and reinstall Constant Effect Additions, Better Clothes 1.1 (apparently not working)
update TR, MCA and probably remove Book Jackets - Morrowind - BookRotate (missing master)

green colour is okay

» Mon Mar 14, 2011 10:42 pm

Save purple? It's green, is that not right?

green colour is okay

No. To quote the Mash documentation "For save games, you want every master to be blue - i.e. you want the save itself to be blue." Or purple: "If a save is blue (not purple), then the load list contains an extra esp that the save is not yet dependent on."

Unable to locate Enchanting 'cruel_spark_ma_en'.
Unable to locate Enchanting 'cruel_flame_ma_en'.
Unable to locate Enchanting 'cruel_poison_ma_en'.
Unable to locate Enchanting 'cruel_frost_ma_en'.
Unable to locate Enchanting 'cruel_flame_ma_en'.
Unable to locate Enchanting 'cruel_frost_ma_en'.
Unable to locate Enchanting 'cruel_poison_ma_en'.
Unable to locate Enchanting 'cruel_spark_ma_en'.
Unable to locate Enchanting 'dire_flame_ma_en'.
Unable to locate Enchanting 'dire_frost_ma_en'.
Unable to locate Enchanting 'dire_poison_ma_en'.
Unable to locate Enchanting 'dire_spark_ma_en'.
Unable to locate Enchanting 'dire_flame_ma_en'.
Unable to locate Enchanting 'dire_frost_ma_en'.
Unable to locate Enchanting 'dire_poison_ma_en'.
Unable to locate Enchanting 'dire_spark_ma_en'.
Unable to locate Enchanting 'dread_flame_ma_en'.
Unable to locate Enchanting 'dread_frost_ma_en'.
Unable to locate Enchanting 'dread_poison_ma_en'.
Unable to locate Enchanting 'dread_spark_ma_en'.

I've seen this before with Assassin's Armory. Are you using the Area Effect Arrows addon from there? IIRC, you need to also use the Assassins Armory ESM and/or the arrows plugin

Not able to find Foot part in BC_shoes_expensive_03.
Not able to find Foot part in BC_shoes_common_4.
Not able to find Foot part in BC_shoes_common_4.
Not able to find Foot part in BC_shoes_common_4.
Not able to find Foot part in BC_shoes_common_4.
Not able to find Foot part in BC_shoes_common_1.
Not able to find Foot part in BC_shoes_common_2.
Not able to find Foot part in BC_shoes_common_1.
Not able to find Foot part in BC_shoes_common_1.

Better Clothes 1.1 (apparently not working)

Despite what Leonardo2 says these are not indicative of Better Clothes not working, they are errors that everyone who uses Better Clothes gets.

Unable to locate object 'dwarven hammer' in Leveled Item 'random_dwemer_weapon'.
Unable to locate object 'dwarven longbow' in Leveled Item 'random_dwemer_weapon'.
Unable to locate object 'dwarven bolt' in Leveled Item 'random_dwemer_weapon'.

Try re-creating your mashed lists plugin.

Item "dwemer_towershield" not found on "construct_male_combat".
Item "dwarven bolt" not found on "construct_female_scan".

Probably related to the above, creature records in your save game which have those dwemer / dwarven items added. Try fixing mashed list and other stuff first.

Interior Cell 'The Luminer Realm' trying to become Exterior Cell (-15, -8)!

IIRC, that's The Underground. See what running just the patched version instead of with Qarl's original does for this error.

Script 'sm_FLS_01' in file 'sm_summonexpanded.esp' has not been compiled.
Script variable "murderedAlvisTeri" not found for dialogue type Topic
Info "EMPTY"
Expression Error Unable to find object "SF_agent_DELF_F1" in script HV_RMMT_MakeTarget2.

No idea where these come from, use native OS search, Wingrep, or InfoRapid Search & Replace to search your plugins for the strings "murderedAlvisTeri" and "HV_RMMT_MakeTarget2", that'll at least identify the mods.
I think stuff prefixed "sm" is Midgetalien's work. SF maybe Starfire - are you using an addon to her NPC Additions without her main mod?

move mashed lists.esp to the last and reinstall Constant Effect Additions,

update TR, MCA and probably remove Book Jackets - Morrowind - BookRotate (missing master)

Leonardo2, I'd appreciate if you could help me understand some of the advice you've given here (see also my comments above):
Why reinstall "Constant Effect Additions"? There are no missing resource errors, and this doesn't sound like a resource-using plugin.
Why are you suggesting to update Tamriel Rebuilt and Morrowind Comes Alive?
What master is the Book Jackets mod missing?

» Tue Mar 15, 2011 3:03 am

Expression Error Unable to find object "SF_agent_DELF_F1" in script HV_RMMT_MakeTarget2.

This is caused because you are using the wrong plugin for Random Missions - In Service to Mephala. You are using the Starfire's version instead of the MCA version. Might or might not be what is causing the crash, but every error fixed is a good thing, right?

» Mon Mar 14, 2011 10:15 pm

No. To quote the Mash documentation "For save games, you want every master to be blue - i.e. you want the save itself to be blue." Or purple: "If a save is blue (not purple), then the load list contains an extra esp that the save is not yet dependent on."

But green colour isn't bad or is it?

Despite what Leonardo2 says these are not indicative of Better Clothes not working, they are errors that everyone who uses Better Clothes gets.

That's strange because I've used Better Clothes 1.1 mod my self and I'v never seen these error message before. :huh:

Leonardo2, I'd appreciate if you could help me understand some of the advice you've given here (see also my comments above):
Why reinstall "Constant Effect Additions"? There are no missing resource errors, and this doesn't sound like a resource-using plugin.
Why are you suggesting to update Tamriel Rebuilt and Morrowind Comes Alive?
What master is the Book Jackets mod missing?

We can skip my advice about Constant Effect Additions mod, because you have already ask Melchior Dahrk a question and my suggestions was posted before your reply.

The TR_Mainland.esm seems old to me and since you have already mention Anteres' Big Mod I assumed that Melchior has an older MCA version installed.

If I'm not mistaking isn't Bookrotate.esm+Bookrotate Bookjackets - Morrowind 1.1 are master files to Book Jackets - Morrowind - BookRotate?

» Mon Mar 14, 2011 8:16 pm

@Leonardo2: TR_mainland.esm is an internal TR file that hasn't been released to the public. Melchior Dahrk is a TR modder. How can it "look old" to a non-TR modder? I'm not trying to be rude. I'm just curious.

» Tue Mar 15, 2011 12:47 am

to me it sounds like a bad object prob (had the same once). please try this: since you may start a new game, do this and go to the cell where your save takes place. does it crash as well? you can do this also with the cs but it's quite heavy to load all your game files in

Azura, Psymoniser
Containers, AOF
Flasks, Qarl

i use these with no problems. the others only in parts (like vurt).

» Mon Mar 14, 2011 2:24 pm

@Leonardo2: TR_mainland.esm is an internal TR file that hasn't been released to the public. Melchior Dahrk is a TR modder. How can it "look old" to a non-TR modder? I'm not trying to be rude. I'm just curious.

Thanks kiteflyer61 for the info. The TR_Mainland.esm looks *old* to me, because I didn't recognize it with the latest TR release. :facepalm:

» Tue Mar 15, 2011 2:08 am

As I said, I was just curious.

The next release of TR is going to a single .esm. It will make updating a lot easier and reduce the confusion (people using the map 1 .esm with the map 2 release, which includes an updated map 1) and make it easier to know which version you are using.

KF

» Mon Mar 14, 2011 9:57 pm

As I said, I was just curious.

The next release of TR is going to a single .esm. It will make updating a lot easier and reduce the confusion (people using the map 1 .esm with the map 2 release, which includes an updated map 1) and make it easier to know which version you are using.

KF

Thank you so much kiteflyer.

I've no idea. I was actually using both map files when I should really use only one map not two. :facepalm: :facepalm:
I can't wait for the next release. :drool: :drool:

» Mon Mar 14, 2011 10:10 pm

You still need to use two files. You just need to use the map 1 file that comes with the map 2 release. See what I mean about confusion? :whistling:

KF

» Mon Mar 14, 2011 10:05 pm

Unable to locate Enchanting 'cruel_spark_ma_en'.
Unable to locate Enchanting 'cruel_flame_ma_en'.
Unable to locate Enchanting 'cruel_poison_ma_en'.
Unable to locate Enchanting 'cruel_frost_ma_en'.
Unable to locate Enchanting 'cruel_flame_ma_en'.
Unable to locate Enchanting 'cruel_frost_ma_en'.
Unable to locate Enchanting 'cruel_poison_ma_en'.
Unable to locate Enchanting 'cruel_spark_ma_en'.
Unable to locate Enchanting 'dire_flame_ma_en'.
Unable to locate Enchanting 'dire_frost_ma_en'.
Unable to locate Enchanting 'dire_poison_ma_en'.
Unable to locate Enchanting 'dire_spark_ma_en'.
Unable to locate Enchanting 'dire_flame_ma_en'.
Unable to locate Enchanting 'dire_frost_ma_en'.
Unable to locate Enchanting 'dire_poison_ma_en'.
Unable to locate Enchanting 'dire_spark_ma_en'.
Unable to locate Enchanting 'dread_flame_ma_en'.
Unable to locate Enchanting 'dread_frost_ma_en'.
Unable to locate Enchanting 'dread_poison_ma_en'.
Unable to locate Enchanting 'dread_spark_ma_en'.

I've seen this before with Assassin's Armory. Are you using the Area Effect Arrows addon from there? IIRC, you need to also use the Assassins Armory ESM and/or the arrows plugin

He's not using Assassin's Armory so that's not the problem. He is using my Particle Arrow Replacer mod along the with compatibility .esp for Area Effect Arrows. The original Area Effect Arrows mod (or some other mods that modifies AEA like Redesigned Vivec) still needs to be used in order for the compatibility ,esp to work properly.

All AEA-Compatibility.esp does is change the arrow references in AEA to use the particle arrow meshes, it does not contain the original full plugin of Area Effect Arrows. Using AEA-Compatibility.esp without the original AEA mod and you'll have some arrows wondering where their enchantments are.

» Tue Mar 15, 2011 1:21 am

what a mess!

» Tue Mar 15, 2011 3:17 am

But green colour isn't bad or is it?

I believe it can lead to doubling in the save game, but if Wrye (who knows a lot more than I about this stuff) says that saves should be blue or purple then I'd suggest ensuring your saves are blue or purple

That's strange because I've used Better Clothes 1.1 mod my self and I'v never seen these error message before. :huh:

How weird. I, and lots of other people, seem to get them all the time. Anyway, the consensus is that they're harmless errors that only appear in warnings.txt and don't affect actual gameplay.

If I'm not mistaking isn't Bookrotate.esm+Bookrotate Bookjackets - Morrowind 1.1 are master files to Book Jackets - Morrowind - BookRotate?

I think he's got everything:
GameFile4=Book Rotate.esm
[...]
GameFile25=Book Jackets - Bloodmoon - BookRotate.esp
GameFile26=Book Jackets - Morrowind - BookRotate.esp
GameFile27=Book Jackets - Tribunal - BookRotate.esp
GameFile28=Book Rotate - Bloodmoon v5.3.esp
GameFile29=Book Rotate - Tribunal v5.3.esp
You only use "Book Rotate - Morrowind v1.1.esp" if you don't have Tribunal or Bloodmoon, otherwise you use "Book Rotate.esm"

» Mon Mar 14, 2011 2:52 pm

Although possibly unrelated, it's worth bringing up. A while back when i started on my armor sets mod (based on link below) it came to my attention that apparently you can have spells with that are completely empty, or something like that. (Perhaps it was an import issue?). The game & editor don't notify you of the problem.

Anyways, anytime those spells/effects were activated, the game would crash.

http://planetelderscrolls.gamespy.com/View.php?view=Mods.Detail&id=6592

The BoneMold armor keeps crashing (The Bonuses in Spell Making are there, but are missing effects)

» Mon Mar 14, 2011 4:44 pm

He's not using Assassin's Armory so that's not the problem. He is using my Particle Arrow Replacer mod along the with compatibility .esp for Area Effect Arrows. The original Area Effect Arrows mod (or some other mods that modifies AEA like Redesigned Vivec) still needs to be used in order for the compatibility ,esp to work properly.

All AEA-Compatibility.esp does is change the arrow references in AEA to use the particle arrow meshes, it does not contain the original full plugin of Area Effect Arrows. Using AEA-Compatibility.esp without the original AEA mod and you'll have some arrows wondering where their enchantments are.

Thanks for that information, GhostNull. I'll look to pop it into mlox's ruleset one of these days.

» Mon Mar 14, 2011 7:53 pm

Very sorry for the late reply everyone and thanks for the anolysis and discussion. What I ended up doing, a little time consuming, was making a new save game (I was planning on starting over anyhow) and incrementally activating all my mods that I wanted. I left a few out and I got it working with the set-up I have now. No errors on loading, at least none which CTD the game.

So I don't even know exactly what the problem was :shrug: I'm just assuming one of the modd I had active didn't like another. Oh, and my old saves work now too.

Though this only may be temporary, and I may run into the old problem again. In which case, I'll be reposting in here.

Thanks again,
-MD