The Price of Purity

Post » Mon Mar 14, 2011 5:00 pm

it would be cool though if i could absorb all the information and directly after the installation i could erase my memory, about the features of skyrim.

i wish i could do this, but my curiosity for information is bigger
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Post » Tue Mar 15, 2011 5:34 am

Excellent OP (I did read it all), and I can relate to your first experiences of Morrowind a lot.

I think at some point I came to the same crossroads you're at, and I guess I chose the opposite direction - I decided I'd never truly recapture that sense of wonder and surprise I was assured of as a kid (playing on the old consoles), and Morrowind was the last lingering trace of that feeling. Now as a PC gamer and modder, I see RPGs more as hobbies than as new experiences or pleasant surprises, to the point where I'll absorb and anolyze every scrap of information and tear the game to pieces with modding tools rather than compromise or be surprised. Learning more about how games are made has only added to that, and nowadays I see art assets, animation styles and quest programming where once I just sat back and thought, cool.

And I'm by no means an expert; I can only imagine that professionals wrestle with this to a greater extent.

As a daydreamer and irredeemable fantasy geek, though, I can still immerse myself in RPGs and still be blown away by beautiful game art or a well executed storyline or quest, so it's up in the air whether or not I've forever spoiled these games for myself. I'll be learning everything I can about Skyrim over the next days and months, and even if I wanted to I doubt I could resist for long.

If you can, then good luck to you! You can always triumphantly return to the forums after your first playthrough to share your pure experiences of Skyrim. :)
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Post » Tue Mar 15, 2011 4:56 am

My solution is to have a massive modding project that I want to finish before Skyrim is released. So I'm feeling a curious mixture of glee and terror that the release date is November! Therefore I will have to spend all my time modding and not obsessing in forums to achieve my goal, with the added benefit that this should help keep Skyrim "pristine" for me. Buuut, seeing as I'm here right now, perhaps this isn't going to work... :P
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Post » Tue Mar 15, 2011 5:11 am

Yes, yes... :lightbulb: The more I think about it, the more likely it seems I will let myself float cautiously thru this GI deluge. I hope to get some technical details that I can use to make the decision about which platform to run Skyrim on.

And I suppose some bits about gameplay and a couple screenshots can't hurt...

:whistling:

And maybe I'll watch just one video about it...

:whistling:

And it might be interesting to learn a little about the quests...and factions...and dungeons... :shocking: :teehee: :ahhh:
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Post » Mon Mar 14, 2011 7:22 pm

Yes, yes... :lightbulb: The more I think about it, the more likely it seems I will let myself float cautiously thru this GI deluge. I hope to get some technical details that I can use to make the decision about which platform to run Skyrim on.

And I suppose some bits about gameplay and a couple screenshots can't hurt...

:whistling:

And maybe I'll watch just one video about it...

:whistling:

And it might be interesting to learn a little about the quests...and factions...and dungeons... :shocking: :teehee: :ahhh:


ye... we've corrupted another one
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Post » Mon Mar 14, 2011 1:34 pm

A few things I've noticed about the online community when it comes to the lack of info and anticipation is the CREATIVITY. I'm amazed by the art and written imagination that seams to influx through the forum, with absolutely nothing more then a title of a world we would love to be immersed in again. This lack of information is making people draw and write with a spark of creativity I haven't seen here for awhile. The anticipation is flowing dopamine in our cerebral cortex more then playing the actual game would. Right now its all up to our imagination to dream of the wonder that the OP mentioned.

I feel as though I want to do the same and not ruin my expectations by jumping to conclusions from the flood of media and hype. It will most likely spoil my experience as apposed to jumping in unbiased.

Fare thee well spoilers.
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Post » Mon Mar 14, 2011 5:30 pm

I really never thought about Skyrim info in this way. My first Elder Scrolls game was Oblivion, and I hardly knew anything about it when I first bought it. Now I know too much about it to enjoy it as much as that first time of playing. Now I'm confused about the Game Informer article, as I was really waiting excitedly for it, but now I'm not sure if I should read it or not. It might ruin a part of the game experience for me, the part of not knowing what I'll expect next.

But I don't think that I have the willpower to not read the article :P
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Post » Tue Mar 15, 2011 4:33 am

First of all, very nice use of smilies. I think you are partly correct, but one thing that you will never have again is the complete discovery of The Elder Scrolls world. I'm guessing Morrowind was your first TES game (as it was mine) and I had similiar experiences and was completely blown away by the game. The fact that you could go anywhere, pick anything up, join so many factions, crazy. Thing is, all these things we take for granted in an elder scrolls game now, so that will never return as a new experience. Granted I'm assuming Skyrim will bring something new to the table, and that you will of course experience more freshly than fx. me, but don't expect an experience AS fresh as Morrowind was :).


I respectfully disagree. Oblivion was my first TES game, but when I went back and played Morrowind (after educating myself on the lore surrounding the series) I was astonished by the level of self discovery and fascination I experienced in my first playthrough. I was instantly fixated with the game within the first few hours.

Thus, even though Im not a "veteran" per se, I feel that my experience with the game was of equal enjoyment to those who played the game years back; to those who constantly speak on these forums of how they were captivated by its mystery and uniqueness. I feel the same way, even though I had an overwhelming amount of knowledge about the series beforehand. However, like seemingly every aspect of our world, this argument may resolve with the conclusion that it is up to personal opinion. In the end, I believe that some can tolerate spoilers and enjoy the game to an equal degree of those who cannot.

Just adding my 2 cents to the discussion. :foodndrink:
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Post » Mon Mar 14, 2011 7:08 pm

I respectfully disagree. Oblivion was my first TES game, but when I went back and played Morrowind (after educating myself on the lore surrounding the series) I was astonished by the level of self discovery and fascination I experienced in my first playthrough. I was instantly fixated with the game within the first few hours.

Thus, even though Im not a "veteran" per se, I feel that my experience with the game was of equal enjoyment to those who played the game years back; to those who constantly speak on these forums of how they were captivated by its mystery and uniqueness. I feel the same way, even though I had an overwhelming amount of knowledge about the series beforehand. However, like seemingly every aspect of our world, this argument may resolve with the conclusion that it is up to personal opinion. In the end, I believe that some can tolerate spoilers and enjoy the game to an equal degree of those who cannot.

Just adding my 2 cents to the discussion. :foodndrink:


That may be, I will never have the joy of discovering Morrowind in that manner, so I can't say *Shrug*
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Post » Mon Mar 14, 2011 7:58 pm

I will read everything short of spoilers and character descriptions and missions and such only thing I wanna know is what they did with combat, stealth, and magic and animations
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Post » Mon Mar 14, 2011 8:08 pm

Personally I too will be avoiding Skyrim discussion as of tomorrow until I get a physical copy of the game informer mag. even avoiding how the cover looks. I want it to be a surprise when I first buy it, besides it should prove a interesting test for my will power. Until then I will stick to CD for the time being.
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Post » Mon Mar 14, 2011 5:00 pm

I had the same experience with Morrowind, but I didn't go crazy trying to get as much info as I could about Oblivion. Regardless, the sense of discovery wasn't as present in Oblivion, not because it was a poorer game, but because it was sticking to the now familiar (and amazing) Elder Scrolls formula. I don't think that I'll be able to return to that period of innocent discovery and exciting ignorance that characterized my introduction to TES, and I don't think that the reason for this is in my seeking info/screenshots of Skyrim, but rather that I've 'lived' in Tamriel for two generations now.

I love the feeling of anticipation, and considering I get a solid 10+ months by surfing these forums, I will continue to do so trusting Bethesda to reveal what they believe to be wise.

same here. morrowind was my introduction to TES, and i will never get the same feeling with skyrim, even if i didnt know anything about it beforehand. i will check whatever info i get on tes v because i just cant resist it :hehe:
but i do hope bethesda doesnt reveal too much details, so we can still get alot of suprises when we first play it. thta goes for story, gameplay, visual effects and also small fun details.
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Post » Mon Mar 14, 2011 4:18 pm

I can relate to the OP, but for me it was with Arena. Granted, it was a lot easier to stay away from the heaps of info back in 1994 because there wasn't any... lol. There was barely an internet! So I went into Arena completely blind and ignorant to everything. Same deal with Daggerfall, for the most part. With information so easy to come by for Morrowind and Oblivion, I read every review, watched every trailer, every "making of," every sneak peak. I stayed away from spoilers, though. I can't really say that it ruined anything with having some prior knowledge of what to expect about certain things. But at the same time, I could see the attractiveness of ignorance. I still remember that feeling from Arena. However, even though I know nothing about Skyrim (yet), I still am very familiar with the Elder Scrolls series, so I already kind of know what to expect in some way regardless. I know about the land, the races of people, about guilds, about quests, RPG elements, ES lore, etc. So although I'm ignorant to specifics, it's not all foreign to me anymore. I think that kind of 'ignorance is bliss' moment only happens once. Know what I mean?

Speaking of not knowing anything... with Oblivion, I already knew that I'd start in a cell, that the king would come down, that they'd escape through a passage in my cell, that I'd end up with the Amulate of Kings, that gates would start popping up all over the place if I started the main quest. I knew all of that before I even loaded the game. However, I did not know anything about the main quest. I knew nothing of any story lines at all. I pretty much just knew how the game looked, how the combat system was, that you can ride horses, that the AI was radiant, and other general things about the game. But outside of the opening happenings, I didn't know many specifics, if any. To me, that limited knowledge didn't ruin anything.

So I'm going to take the same route with Skyrim. I'll look at the pictures, read some reviews and watch some trailers. I'll stay away from all spoilers and info when it comes to plot lines or quest details. When I start playing, I'll be back to not knowing what I'm supposed to do, so I'll go out exploring a wondrous land, still blissfully ignorant to what lies beyond the next rise :)
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Post » Mon Mar 14, 2011 3:27 pm

I feel like if I put in Skyrim on 11/11/11 without ever seeing a single screenshot or video, or reading any article, it would be amazing. Totally breathtaking. However, doing so would be incredibly difficult, so I suppose I'll look at a screen here and there.

But just think of how magnificent it would seem if you had no idea at all what to expect!
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Post » Mon Mar 14, 2011 8:09 pm

I too have come across this for halo I loved halo 3 as it was my first game for 360 and I didn't research it I only seen a few trailers and then I read every bit of info for Odst and reach and I was dissappointed same with cod 5,,6,7 and I fear that it will happen for skyrim.

Ifs just to dam hard, I go on these forums everyday looking for info even thou it wasn't even near the cover reveal for he gameinformer mag. God dam u hype!!!
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Post » Tue Mar 15, 2011 3:49 am

I feel you 100%.

The thing is that there is no going back. I didn’t spoil Oblivion much, but I already knew basically what to expect. The novelty was mostly in the details.

Anyway, I’m happy to speculate and drool over some screen shots, and I want to know something about the basic mechanics going in, but when it gets close to 11/11, I’ll be trying to keep my head in the sand about the world as a whole as well.
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Post » Tue Mar 15, 2011 3:31 am

Wow, lots of good points there. I have only played Oblivion and so I have no comparisons to draw, but I remember my first time playing -- how vivid and fun the discovery was. My first fight (after the sewers tutorial) was with a wolf -- I remember the camera shaking, the wolf snarling, and then yelping when I stabbed at it. Call me a wimp (I am) but I felt really bad for killing it. Then, I killed someone in the Imperial City and my heart gave a huge thump when I saw the text "Your killing has been observed by forces unknown..."

I didn't think about this before, but yeah, I now that I think about it, I really want Skyrim to be that same vivid, almost emotional experience.

I think I'll look at the GI issue, but I'll probably follow your lead and stay away from the forums.
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Post » Mon Mar 14, 2011 4:38 pm

Sadly they will most likely demonstrate certain game mechanics in videos also showing parts of the actual game :/

I'm sure there will be some videos explaining some of the new features.
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Post » Mon Mar 14, 2011 5:34 pm

I am seriously in the same dilemma with more and more info leaking out. Either I let the experience be fresh or i binge on all the nice skyrim info releasing soon.
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Post » Tue Mar 15, 2011 3:43 am

It's a good OP. That is one reason why everyone thinks MW was such an amazing game, the first time is almost always the best. Though I'm sure Skyrim will blow it out of the water and even shake up those who have modded it all the way to oblivion! It's a good warning when you get really hyped up and are speculating for years or months you will eventually be disappointed,
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Post » Mon Mar 14, 2011 7:22 pm

I went to Morrowind without knowing much about it too, but expecting them to take Daggerfall's and improve on it led me to major disappointment. If I had known some of the changes beforehand maybe it wouldn't have been that bad. I followed Oblivion's making, and knowing what to expect helped me enjoy the game more I believe (probably didn't hurt that in some ways it was more similar or Daggerfall). The magic of one's first TES game can't be captured anyway if you ask me, we already know the basics of the world. Learning the basic changes in gameplay and stuff isn't too bad IMO, and can lead to a more open approach when you realise the mechanics have once again been totally restructured. Devs wont always follow the "if it aint broken don't fix" mentality it in a TES game. They tend to experiment quite a bit. That's good cause it keeps the game fresh.. but I like to know about it.
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Post » Mon Mar 14, 2011 11:34 pm

I'm considering building a PC for Skyrim, but I want to still play it on my TV with a controller; I'll need to know for instance if the UI would/would not be friendly to this

Do it. A PC can play video games much better than consoles. You get the benefit of mods and having your pc on a tv. A wired xbox 360 controller is what I use. Make sure to get a video card with HDMI out to make it really easy on yourself. As for the UI and other issues pertaining to the lack of mouse and countless buttons, you must remember that this game must be playable on consoles. You will most likely miss a few PC-exclusive buttons (Autowalk/toggle run), but nothing truly important. The UI may be slightly different between consoles and PCs since this was a major complaint of the PC gamers. If there is an improved PC only UI, then you will just need a wireless mouse.

You may leave now to keep the magic and mystery in your first play-through of Skyrim. I envy you.
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