So I was thinking about making an entire fanart Story, the size of a actual book. First I want to know, If that is against copyrights, and if it is allowed. second I want to suggest some of my ideas, however they are not much right now.

First the main storyline involves a large twist of Doom-like events through all of Tamriel....much like every storyline that there is in the series. Being just fanart though, however I'm going to include the idea that the moon, or ministry of truth fell into Morrowind at it is already destroyed. This will be set a some sixty years after that. And the main characters and Tamriels only hope of stopping this evil, is to find someone who is either believed to be dead, or hidden. Someone who ran before the destruction of morrowind, into hiding. Vivec.

Also another idea I had, was much like how The last boss in the oblivion expansion of the knights of nine, Sotha Sil's soul is discovered to still exist within the Planes of oblivion, somewhere, and the characters actaull;y meet him. however just speculations, ideas, and suggestions for my little story I'm working on.



this is a combination of my want for suggestions, discussion, answers, and i didn't think the elder scrolls fanart was the right place to place this topic. So If this is the wrong place, could the moderators move it to the right place?

As long as you don't make any money off of it, it doesn't violate copyrights. It has to be a fanfic and nothing more.

that's what I was thinking. I was told that, but just wanted to make sure....

feel free to leave an opinion on the two little ideas I have.

I'll post an update to my storyline basis, for the fanfic story. Soon, still working on it.

I always wanted to meet Sotha Sil, I hate Almelexia for killing him > : (

Hear hear. I too always wanted to meet Sotha Sil. He was the coolest of the tribunal.

Me too, he was my favorate character in the Elder Scrolls series.

http://www.uesp.net/wiki/Lore:Night_Mother Alright, the real reason I like that is for the Night Mother, but Sotha's in there too Though the quote on his wiki page is cool, it also confuses me...


With that out of the way, I must say the idea intrigues me. Everyone loves Vivec, and any story with heavy involvement on his part is sure to be a great sucess. Although, I must say you should add a bit more detail than that

Be sure to tell us why all Tamriel is coming to an end, and why the only one who can stop it is the mighty warrior poet CHIM master. And please be original, I've had just about enough cliche doomsday ideas for one year, thank you.

By the way, nice to meet you, I am Darkom. Hopefully I'll be able to be of more help once you expand upon your idea, and then even more so once you write your first chapter. Always good to see a fresh face around here (though an avatar would be helpful )

Thanks, I'll be coming back soon!

Well, Hmm. I thank you for your support Darkom!! Really I do.


Well, it'll be about a day from now, before I post anything up again though. =]

With the Empire near utter collapse, the imperial city overtaken by Argonian forces, and the remaining hist trees mysteriously becoming rogue within the black Marshes, one by one, the world of Tamriel seemed to be locked in chaos. There is possibly only one man who can bring hope to the people, to rise against the evil, but he is believed to be dead by some, while others whisper that he is long gone from mundas.

It is up to six unlikely heroes to find this man, and learn why the trees are becoming rogue so frequently, perhaps there is a more darker figure orchistrating the whole thing.


Here is just a small Teeser, to my idea. Still more to come. Opinions please.

Well, the idea seems solid enough, but the lore is a little screwy. Here's some quick pointers:

Argonians are pretty peaceful, and don't really invade anyone, especially the much stronger Imperial forces. Outside of their swamps their combat ability is pretty low.

I'm not sure how Hist trees can go rogue, but it seems a little random. It feels as though you are plucking random lore and assembling it in a similarly obscure fashion. Why not make it Morrowind that's in trouble, which gives Vivec a reason to intervene anyway. How's this: the Nerevarine is a tyrannical dictator, and is trying to eradicate Temple religious practices. Vivec comes back from the dead, although he is still mortal, and goes around saving the country.

If this is a fan fiction, six protagonists is not a good idea. Trust me, I've tried to write multiple characters together at the same time, you start to lose track of them all. Either have them be in different places, or just settle for one or two guys. And again, the whole Hist thing just feels a little weird. I'm sure you can rationalize it well enough, but as of now it just seems odd.

Of course, don't let me stop you from trying. You have a good idea with Vivec solving a crisis, you just need to work out the details of the crisis and how you plan to save Vivec. Of course, I would say Vivec being the protagonist would be completely awesome, but the whole CHIMness of him might complicate things. All in all good job, but the lore could use some work. Hop over to the Imperial Library, or even just the lore forum, and submit your ideas to them. They'll definitely let you know whether your idea flies Perhaps a little too much...

Anyway, thanks again, I look forward to your story.


EDIT: Ravanger's idea works just as well. One question though, what is this fridge I hear so much about? Does it have something to do with CHIM

How about: give Vivec amnesia, so he doesn't know about I, then Infernal city Use the backstory to explain why the Argonians would take their fight out of black marsh. (Empire actively attempting to destroy the Hist, perhaps?) and then try to get into the main plot before fridge logic takes over.

well, my idea was based off the events that were explained in the Infernal City. Sorta, it's like some years later. So the whole idea of the rogue Hist that was talked about in the book, i'm expanding on since it really don't explain how and why, and being this is a fanfic, it's my own speculations.

This hist start becoming rogue, because of an outside influence. And the reason most of the argonians, are invading the other races, is because, as has been explained before, the hist sometimes have a influence and control over the argonians, much how the rogue hist tree, in the " city " of the black marsh, caused the argonians to form a group and invade morrowind. I'm just expanding on the idea, that things got worse, more and more hist started to become Rogue, and influencing the lizard folk to destroy the ones that had not become rogue.

How the moon of Vivec crashed into vivec city, obliterating allot of the isle of morrowind, then caused the Red mountain to erupt which mostly wiped out Vvardenfell, and added to that the invasion of the Argonians. Well, during then Vivec fled, while some thinks he is dead, others say he has left mundas.

There is a deeper reason why Vivec is the hope for all. One of the biggest reason, is with the argonians becoming the most powerful force, the Empire at near collapse, and the Royal family long gone, people have lost hope. Everyone is afraid, and unwilling to fight back, mostly because of fear. The royal families for the remaining races, either are to weak and coward to do something about it, or they are thinking that they wouldn't be effected by the current events. Vivec himself is needed because out of everyone alive, he has the strength. Stamina. Intelligence, and brilliant leadership. charm, and good with his words. Pretty much he is the only one, who can bring hope, to rise the races up and give them the courage to face their fear. Exspecially with what all he has done, as part of the Tribunal, and before then.

Well, no one really knows, the darker intentions, and more mysterious work that's behind all the events. They think the danger all lies within, the upcoming battles and invasions, the corruption of the hist. Although I working on the deeper part of the plot, that includes why it's all happening, what's the cause and intentions of the " Villains, " I am planning on making it intense as possible.

Darkom95, you say that why do so many antagonists, well that's normally the size of the party in books, I want this to be like a flow blown story, however, still be fanfic. I love the Elder Scrolls stories and mythology, history, and whole idea, more then anyone else's. So this will be in honor of it's creation, and sorta of a thanks in a way. My dedication also. However it supposed to be fun too. It's actually easier then you think to implameny so many characters, just group them up, and put different characters in different chapters, each leading on their own journeys until the story is done, and they have accomplished their quests.

I thank everyone, who is interested in my work, and supportive. Also, for the great Ideas, that have been given me. keep them coming.

Ah, I really should read those then. No wonder I didn't understand this whole Hist business, or where the Argonians came into play. My mistake then Oh, and if I sound condescending within my post it is by sheer accident, I have no intentions to offend anyone.



Try commas next time And don't forget CHIM




First of all, I mentioned the protagonists, not the antagonists. Second of all, I am hard pressed to find too many books with a party of six protagonists. I'm sure excellent books like that exist, but I generally find it more difficult to have too many people in one place, especially when all of them are important to the story. Fan fictions tend to be full blown stories, and I fail to see how the number of protagonists changes that.



Of course, they are amazing. Simply amazing. I too am a huge fan of Elder Scrolls lore, as are most of the folks around here. And I'm sure you love lore quite a bit, but I wouldn't be so eager to claim to be the number one fan

Regardless, the rest of the idea is sound, all I ask is that you either lessen the number of protagonists, or have them each lead their own story, separate from everyone else. Not to say they can't connect and intertwine, but it would be better, I think, to not have them all in the same place at the same time. You can change the point of view every chapter or so, this is a very common thing done in stories, and is a great tool to get multiple views on the current events.

Thanks, I'm sure the story will be a fine one :goodjob:



EDIT: Regardless, I had meant you should not have them all together. You obviously knew this, but you really should enunciate your ideas more clearly. I hate to sound rude, but my misunderstanding is hardly my own fault, though I do share some blame. Well then, so long as you do separate them then it should work fine.

Tolkien had a very excellent style in doing so though, and you can't really call every single one of them protagonists. I took it to mean you were going to have several protagonists at once, when you really should have at most three, and even then they are usually separate in a sense. Protagonist is different from a supporting character in that they recieve the main focus of the story, even if they are not the narrator or the narrator's point of view, and most importantly they grow over the course of the novel. As cool as Gandalf was, he hardly made any dramatic changes to his personality or views on the world of Middle Earth. He remained static, thus a supporting character, albeit a main one. So you can have multiple characters, but you should restrict your protagonist count. Most stories have only one (Frodo).

Yes, what I said was a joke, though I can't say I entirely understood what you said back then either. Also, just as a tip, please try to use proper grammar, it should clear up some of this confusion. Few people enjoy reading stories written as you have been posting, though I trust if you put your mind to it you could write perfectly well.

Oh, and Vanir, I myself have never heard of such a series, though I trust it is an excellent one. Although I am not sure if all of them met the definition of protagonist, I trust your judgement on the fact.

The Dragonlance Chronicles has a group of 7 people as the protagonists.

Haha, Lord of the rings has many protagonists. Darkom95, that's what I was Talking about, some of the characters will lead seperate storylines within the story. Oh, and when I said antagonist, I mean't Protagonist. lol.

Tonight, I should have a better description of my story. It'll be a while before I start writing, so Don't get impatient. XD!! I want to make this as best as I can. Plus, Darkom, I wasn't trying to say I was number one fan. I was trying to say, I like the elder scrolls series and stories more then anyone else's stories or series.

Here is a more detailed version of my idea.

Sixty years after the destruction of Morrowind, when the moon fell into Vivec, the breakup of the Tribunal and the invasion of the Argonian forces, Not long after the destruction, the organization known as the An-Xileel, disbanded. A new group is formed in the Black Marsh, known as the Kel-Exeet. This was coincidentially influenced by the rogue Hist tree within the ' The Festering Jewel, ' Lilmoth. Over the next couple years, The group, Kel-Exeet, began to rapidly expand, while throughout all of the Black Marsh, mysteriously, the Hist trees began to one by one fall away and become rogue. With more and more Rogue Hist Trees, the influence on the Argonians became stronger by the day, which in turn expanded the Kel-Exeet by allot. Slowly, much like how, the Hist trees are like one single organism, how they all know, think, and speak the same thing. The rogue trees, acquire the same ability, gradually growing into a corrupt form of the Hist. Over seven years, the power of the Kel-Exeet became strong.

The Rogue Hist then turned to More drastic plans, after having the other non-rogue Hist trees destroyed, they ordered for the Destruction of the Imperial City, and Cyrodiil, their Neighbors. Under the heavy influence of the Rogue Hist, while still rapidly expanding, The Kel-Exeet obeyed, and invaded cyrodiil with such a determination and force that the mighty imperial forces were shaken, crushed, then destroyed. The Kel-Exeet, killing the Emperor, hunted down the remaining royal Family then slew them. With the Imperial Forces crushed, the Imperial City taken by the Argonians, thw white Tower under control of the Kel-Exeet, All hope seemed lost. The citizens all around began to fear the Kel-Exeet as they eventually conquered Cyrodiil, slain the Emperor and left no heir to the thrown, before their eyes the greatest power in Tamriel was crushed. With News of the Argonian forces moving outwards, to take the other lands, the Nords became interested in the Kel-Exeets intentions, and formed an alliance with the Argonians. The Nords and Kel-Exeet, began to plan an attack on Valenwood soon. This is the beginning of our Story.

The first couple chapters will cover, the main protagonists, and began their journeys. The threat of Attack on Valenwood causes extreme panic among it's citizens and the Wood Elf leaders were to Cowardly to stand up to the Advancing forces. One of the characters began in Valenwood, a young Noble, whoms father had died during the attack of Cyrodiil, while on a diplomatic Visit to the Imperial City. Disgusted, by the decisions of the Head figures of his homeland, to simply surrender to the Argonians, he takes a small groop of troops under his command, creating a small war-party, and ambushes small groups of the Kel-Exeel. Through all of this, an event changes, causing the young Noble to become bitter. From then on, he does everything in his power to hunt down the Kel-Exeet and Nords, and stop the invasions.

I'll finish this later today, at the time I have to go.

Anyways, would like comments, suggestions, opinions. Thanks!!