They would even notice it's happening. We wouldn't even notice it's happening.

Just to play devil's advocate, Sheo was becoming more sane as the Greymarch approached.

I think most people are comparing to Oblivion.

If you read Relmyna's letter to Sheogorath, in one paragraph she states: "If it weren't blasphemous, I might venture to say that the world has been slowly going sane. I can almost feel in my bones a chilling presence approaching, like a devouring emptiness."

I think you might be interested in Rhoark's Tetrearchy. Really interesting stuff about the nature of Jyggalag and Lorkhan in there.

If he is correct, his return could very well mean the end of the Mundus as a whole.

But there are no Obelisks in Tamriel, Only in The Shivering Isles, And with the happenings of The Shivering Isles, all Obelisks were sealed. So he cannot return. Good thing too, He'd take all the cheese.

LIAR!!! :stare:

I agree that the Shivering Isles was a wasted opportunity in that it did not explore "Madness" to its fullest potential.

There is, admittedly, the argument that the Isles were "slowly going sane", which would account for many of the seemingly normal qualities of the Heart of Madness. Nonetheless, the Isles do not revert to any a priori condition-state precedent post-Jyggalag vanquishment. Ergo, we must assume that, although the Isles may have been "going sane", it did not seem to "go insane" after the Greymarch ended.

Why?

Was it because the Prince of Order had been freed from his curse to "roam the voids of Oblivion"? Doubtful. Jyggalag did not have a Daedric Realm proper due to the Daedric Principalities only being created post-Mundus genesis.

The Prince of Order had no effect on Mundus' existence, save for the brief periods of Greymarch.

Yours in the Scrolls,


___TWM

Even more than Jyggalag, I'm interested in seeing how they treat Sheogorath in the next game. If they give him any specific appearance it will basically be dictating what the CoC looked like, won't it?

hm, since this topic was pretty necro'd, i think ill ask a mildly related question on jyggy.

the 4th sermon of vivec mentions a "Chancellor of Exactitude" -- could this by any chance be jyggy? the sphere fits well enough.

/grasping at retcon

I doubt that. If they even give him an illustration or something it will probably look like the form he chose during SI. But I doubt that he'll have anything to do with the next installment in TES.

Even without involvement in the MQ, it isn't like he shouldn't be present. Shrines anyone?

Do they have the same shrines in the other provinces? I'm not too familier on the subject.
If they do have shrines, wouldn't they use the same model as the one in OB? http://images.google.com/imgres?imgurl=http://images1.wikia.nocookie.net/oblivion/images/thumb/3/30/SheogorathShrine.jpg/200px-SheogorathShrine.jpg&imgrefurl=http://oblivion.wikia.com/wiki/Sheogorath%27s_Shrine&h=209&w=200&sz=22&hl=en&start=3&usg=__L7y8ey3SRlaO0l2w4K0yUWX3NiM=&tbnid=OmLnII0dlRbESM:&tbnh=106&tbnw=101&prev=/images%3Fq%3Dshrine%2Bof%2Bsheogorath%26gbv%3D2%26hl%3Den%26safe%3Doff%26ie%3DUTF-8

That's exactly what I'm wondering about. Sheo should logically look like the CoC now (barring the fuddled logic of dragon breaks), so shouldn't the statues follow suit?

Otherway around, you are Sheogorath so you must look like Sheogorath. You wouldn't be Sheogorath if you didn't.

How are they going to do that when nobody knows what the CoC looks like?

Like I said, if he has an in-game picture, it will be the form he chose for SI.

You are, again, just stating the question I raised in the first place. Logically, he should look like the CoC, but there is no way to know what the CoC looks like. My wondering was about how they would handle that, so thank you for basically just restating what I started with for the sake of arguing.

Stop with that logic already. You're doing it wrong.

Gods are not persons. They are concepts, they are their sphere, they are their realms, and the lesser Daedra in that divine trinity sense.

To become Sheogorath you must symbolically become him, his staff, his clothes his powers, his appearance. You become Sheogorath, by being Sheogorath.

In otherwords, Sheogorath doesn't change but the Champion of the Isles does.

They'll handle it by not changing a thing because they don't have too. Why would they even pose this question to themselves? I think its a pointless question.

How do you think they would handle it? Or rather, how should they handle it?

The answer is simple. He is most likely going to keep the same form. I don't see any other way around it.

I know that is what rightfully should happen, I just figured that since they already broke that logic (understandably) in SI, then it would most likely not carry over.



I know he will most likely keep the same form, but I think the devs put themselves in a [censored] situation with this one. I just posed the question to point out that there needs to be a break in logic somewhere along those lines, and in the hopes that someone had a better answer for me than the obvious.