Vivec is a true philosopher. Is anything such as this known about Nerevar? Afterall he was a war leader of the whole Resdayn. A strong leader such as that must have lived by a code of principals. Is there anything known about Nerevar's philosophy of leadership and rule?

I'm not sure if any information on Nerevar exists beyond Dunmeri texts and story tellers. I would assume though, that he lived by a certain code of ethics, and/or had strong morals. From the accounts of Nerevar that I have heard he was a great warrior with great leadership capabilities. Also, seeing as how he made a peaceful agreement with Dumac and the dwarves might prove he had certain political qualities as well. IMHO.

We know that he put peace with the Dwemer before the safety of his people, so he was likely not a deep philosopher but rather an idealist. His mentor was Sotha Sil so that should tell you something.

Peace with the Dwemer was safety for his people. When Resdayne was founded it was a formidable adversary. They overcame many challenges and drove the Nord invaders from Morrowind. Sotha Sil was his companion and his teacher, and later served on the first council. What exactly is that telling us?

Sotha Sil has probably learned some things others could not even dream of. That makes me think he would actually be a very deep philosopher. Nerevar being companion and student of Sotha might pick up his friends habits of looking deeper into the matters at hand. IMHO.

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It seems he was a diplomat as well, as not only did he unite the tribes under Moon-and-Star peacefully, but he and Dumac, who himself was once an enemy, attended the coronation of the Alessian Emperor for diplomatic purposes.

Ok, peace with them during war, but that does not excuse his folly of brotherly love to an entire people just because the king gave him a sword. The Dwemer were planning a numidium behind their backs, as the two nitwits smoked the peace pipe and pretended their friendship made null the schism of fundamental thought between their people.

There was destined to be conflict, and I suspect Sotha Sil shut his mouth because he didn't want to break his student's heart. He wanted to have hope in human relations and for peace, but he knew better.

Or we can just say that Sotha didn't know about it or that anything could fit in here and just speculate? But speculate is fun.

I agree conflict may have been destined, but why do you feel Sotha Sil knew about Kagrenac's plan and didn't say anything to Nerevar?

I would like to know that too, now when I think about it.

But then who knows? Sotha maybe reached CHIM and knew it all along?

Indeed so.

He isn't just a strange, inhuman robot (Sotha Sil) but rather, he realy wanted to believe in a peace. When it shattered he knew he had an obligation to fix it, something he felt he had a hand in bringing about. He did it by finding out how to become a god of his people and to try to prevent this from ever happening again, but he lost confidence in his people instead when he gained real knowlege and realised that he coudn't change nature. In this sense he repeated the same mistake Nerevar made when he tried to hard to fix what does not, or cannot be fixed. That's my theory.


Because, like Nerevar, he wanted to believe, it made him feel young again among other things. I like to piece together a character I can relate to in some way. I don't know if that is realy why, I'm not so presumptive, but that is what makes sense in the context and makes good character study. This is the nature of a tinkerer.

I still want to know why he let Alma murder him. Not just speculate about it but I'm pretty sure that he wanted to die since he had become more robotic then human and with all his knowledge it might have been time.

I wonder if he was so deep into his work and thoughts that he didn't even notice Alma was about to kill him. Even after he was dead he still kept thinking about his works and creations.

Could be but I doubt it, I mean he was pretty much wired up with the whole city.

Oh that I had completely forgotten. Thanks for bringing that up.