Asking for help witb my modded game : Fallout 3

» Sun Apr 03, 2011 1:31 am

I again require the wisdom of someone more wise than me concerning using mods in Fallout 3. I get rather strange behavior in regards to my spawns. The wasteland I am travelling in is rather devoid of life even though I use MMM with Increased Spawns. And I may have found a reason, but no idea what causes it or how to fix it. If I save a game and load the game again, I will see dead bodies spawning around me, and the spawns seem to appear and begin to attack me like they should. It is as if the the spawns are there, they just don't "kick" in like they should. Anyone has any idea what might be causing it? And maybe a way to fix it? Here's my loadorder and any help is very much appreciated.

Spoiler

[X] Fallout3.esm
[X] Anchorage.esm
[X] ThePitt.esm
[X] BrokenSteel.esm
[X] PointLookout.esm
[X] Zeta.esm
[X] Unofficial Fallout 3 Patch.esm
[X] Project Beauty HD version.esm
[X] Destruction.esm
[X] CRAFT.esm
[X] CALIBR.esm
[X] ArefuExpandedByAzar.esm
[X] FO3 Wanderers Edition - Main File.esm
[X] Mart's Mutant Mod.esm
[X] CubeExperimental (EN).esm
[X] Ammo Bench.esm
[X] Enhanced Weather - Rain and Snow.esm
[X] Xepha's Dynamic Weather.esm
[X] DCInteriors_ComboEdition.esm
[X] Unofficial Fallout 3 Patch - Operation Anchorage.esp
[X] Unofficial Fallout 3 Patch - The Pitt.esp
[X] Unofficial Fallout 3 Patch - Broken Steel.esp
[X] Unofficial Fallout 3 Patch - Point Lookout.esp
[X] Unofficial Fallout 3 Patch - Mothership Zeta.esp
[X] Project Beauty- Broken Steel.esp
[X] Project Beauty- Point Lookout.esp
[X] CRAFT - Activation Perk.esp
[X] DarNifiedUIF3.esp
[X] Realistic Interior Lighting.esp
[X] Realistic Interior Lighting - BS.esp
[X] Realistic Interior Lighting - OA.esp
[X] ArefuExpandedByAzar-Radio.esp
[X] UPP - Pack 1.esp
[X] UPP - Pack 2.esp
[X] UPP - Experience Perks.esp
[X] UPP - Quest Perks.esp
[X] UPP - Beverage Perks.esp
[X] NotSoFast.esp
[X] HeirApparent.esp
[X] IntoTheDeepWoods.esp
[X] PLweightadjust.esp
[X] ShadySands.esp
[X] WastelandMastery.esp
[X] Treasure Maps_Secrets of the Wasteland.esp
[X] Treasure Maps_A Fist Full of Caps.esp
[X] Destruction - Main.esp
[X] Destruction - Main - Statics.esp
[X] Destruction - DLC.esp
[X] Destruction - DLC - Statics.esp
[X] Mole Rat Maze.esp
[X] A Trail of Crumbs.esp
[X] CantaburyCommonsGuards.esp
[X] FO3 Wanderers Edition - Main File.esp
[X] Return to Shady Sands - FWE weapons rebalance.esp
[X] FO3 Wanderers Edition - DLC Anchorage.esp
[X] FO3 Wanderers Edition - DLC Broken Steel.esp
[X] FO3 Wanderers Edition - DLC Mothership Zeta.esp
[X] FO3 Wanderers Edition - DLC Point Lookout.esp
[X] FO3 Wanderers Edition - DLC The Pitt.esp
[X] FO3 Wanderers Edition - UFP Support.esp
[X] FO3 Wanderers Edition - Alternate Travel.esp
[X] FO3 Wanderers Edition - Followers Enhanced (BrokenSteel).esp
[X] FO3 Wanderers Edition - Optional VATS Halftime.esp
[X] FO3 Wanderers Edition - Optional Worn Weapons.esp
[X] FO3 Wanderers Edition - Project Beauty.esp
[X] FO3 Wanderers Edition - Project Beauty (HD Addition).esp
[X] FO3 Wanderers Edition - Project Beauty (Followers Enhanced B-S).esp
[X] Refurbish [TP].esp
[X] Refurbish [BS].esp
[X] Refurbish [PL].esp
[X] Refurbish [MZ].esp
[X] Refurbish [OA].esp
[X] Refurbish [OA] - FWE.esp
[X] WeaponModKits.esp
[X] WeaponModKits - FWE Master Release.esp
[X] WeaponModKits - OperationAnchorage.esp
[X] WeaponModKits - ThePitt.esp
[X] WeaponModKits - BrokenSteel.esp
[X] WeaponModKits - PointLookout.esp
[X] WeaponModKits - Zeta.esp
[X] WeaponModKits - FWE Optional Worn Weapons.esp
[X] WMKAA12Shotgun.esp
[X] Burnification.esp
[X] EVE.esp
[X] EVE - FWE Master Release.esp
[X] EVE - FWE Master Release (Follower Enhanced).esp
[X] EVE Operation Anchorage.esp
[X] EVE - FWE with WeaponModKits.esp
[X] EVE Anchorage - FWE DLC Anchorage.esp
[X] Wasteland Whisperer.esp
[X] RobCo Certified.esp
[X] RobCo Storage Module.esp
[X] RobCo Certified Engineer.esp
[X] RobCo Certified Engineer - Storage Enabled.esp
[X] RobCo Certified Engineer - Storage Enabled Fix.esp
[X] RobCo Certified - FWE EVE Balance.esp
[X] RobCo Certified - FWE EVE Balance Light.esp
[X] Mart's Mutant Mod.esp
[X] MMM_RtSS_Mod.esp
[X] PB MMM HD.esp
[X] Mart's Mutant Mod - Project Beauty.esp
[X] Mart's Mutant Mod - Project Beauty (HD Addition).esp
[X] Mart's Mutant Mod - Project Beauty + FWE.esp
[X] Mart's Mutant Mod - DLC Anchorage.esp
[X] Mart's Mutant Mod - DLC The Pitt.esp
[X] Mart's Mutant Mod - DLC Broken Steel.esp
[X] Mart's Mutant Mod - DLC Point Lookout.esp
[X] Project Beauty- Point Lookout MMM.esp
[X] Mart's Mutant Mod - DLC Zeta.esp
[X] Mart's Mutant Mod - FWE Master Release.esp
[X] Mart's Mutant Mod - FWE with EVE.esp
[X] 1PipboyPDA.esp
[X] Arwen_XPR.esp
[X] PreWar Book Titles and Perks.esp
[X] megalight.esp
[X] Xepha's Dynamic Weather - Main.esp
[X] Xepha's Dynamic Weather - Anchorage.esp
[X] Xepha's Dynamic Weather - Broken Steel.esp
[X] Xepha's Dynamic Weather - Point Lookout.esp
[X] Xepha's Dynamic Weather - The Pitt.esp
[X] Xepha's Dynamic Weather - Rain (OA).esp
[X] Enhanced Weather - Weather Sounds in Interiors.esp
[X] Responsive Kill Reactions.esp
[X] Realistic Dogmeat.esp
[X] RZW_RadioStutterFix.esp
[X] ImmersiveHealth.esp
[X] Mez's Merged Patch 5-0 - DLC-FWE-WMK-MMM.esp

» Sun Apr 03, 2011 7:59 am

Hmm... this is getting odd. Reinstalled FO3, but only installed FWE with the compatible mods and I still get the behaviour with the saved game. Maybe some buggy mod caused this and corrupted my game even though I got rid of it? Anyone else have this kind of thing using FWE?

New Load Order after reinstallation:

Spoiler

[X] Fallout3.esm
[X] Anchorage.esm
[X] ThePitt.esm
[X] BrokenSteel.esm
[X] PointLookout.esm
[X] Zeta.esm
[X] Unofficial Fallout 3 Patch.esm
[X] Project Beauty HD version.esm
[X] CRAFT.esm
[X] CALIBR.esm
[X] FO3 Wanderers Edition - Main File.esm
[X] Mart's Mutant Mod.esm
[X] Unofficial Fallout 3 Patch - Operation Anchorage.esp
[X] Unofficial Fallout 3 Patch - The Pitt.esp
[X] Unofficial Fallout 3 Patch - Broken Steel.esp
[X] Unofficial Fallout 3 Patch - Point Lookout.esp
[X] Unofficial Fallout 3 Patch - Mothership Zeta.esp
[X] Project Beauty- Broken Steel.esp
[X] Project Beauty- Point Lookout.esp
[X] CRAFT - Activation Perk.esp
[X] DarNifiedUIF3.esp
[X] FO3 Wanderers Edition - Main File.esp
[X] FO3 Wanderers Edition - DLC Anchorage.esp
[X] FO3 Wanderers Edition - DLC Broken Steel.esp
[X] FO3 Wanderers Edition - DLC Mothership Zeta.esp
[X] FO3 Wanderers Edition - DLC Point Lookout.esp
[X] FO3 Wanderers Edition - DLC The Pitt.esp
[X] FO3 Wanderers Edition - UFP Support.esp
[X] FO3 Wanderers Edition - Alternate Travel.esp
[X] FO3 Wanderers Edition - Followers Enhanced (BrokenSteel).esp
[X] FO3 Wanderers Edition - Optional VATS Halftime.esp
[X] FO3 Wanderers Edition - Optional Worn Weapons.esp
[X] FO3 Wanderers Edition - Project Beauty.esp
[X] FO3 Wanderers Edition - Project Beauty (HD Addition).esp
[X] FO3 Wanderers Edition - Project Beauty (Followers Enhanced B-S).esp
[X] WeaponModKits.esp
[X] WeaponModKits - FWE Master Release.esp
[X] WeaponModKits - OperationAnchorage.esp
[X] WeaponModKits - ThePitt.esp
[X] WeaponModKits - BrokenSteel.esp
[X] WeaponModKits - PointLookout.esp
[X] WeaponModKits - Zeta.esp
[X] WeaponModKits - FWE Optional Worn Weapons.esp
[X] WMKAA12Shotgun.esp
[X] EVE.esp
[X] EVE - FWE Master Release.esp
[X] EVE - FWE Master Release (Follower Enhanced).esp
[X] EVE Operation Anchorage.esp
[X] EVE - FWE with WeaponModKits.esp
[X] EVE Anchorage - FWE DLC Anchorage.esp
[X] Mart's Mutant Mod.esp
[X] PB MMM HD.esp
[X] Mart's Mutant Mod - Project Beauty.esp
[X] Mart's Mutant Mod - Project Beauty (HD Addition).esp
[X] Mart's Mutant Mod - Project Beauty + FWE.esp
[X] Mart's Mutant Mod - DLC Anchorage.esp
[X] Mart's Mutant Mod - DLC The Pitt.esp
[X] Mart's Mutant Mod - DLC Broken Steel.esp
[X] Mart's Mutant Mod - DLC Point Lookout.esp
[X] Project Beauty- Point Lookout MMM.esp
[X] Mart's Mutant Mod - DLC Zeta.esp
[X] Mart's Mutant Mod - FWE Master Release.esp
[X] Mart's Mutant Mod - FWE with EVE.esp
[X] Mez's Merged Patch 5-0 - DLC-FWE-WMK-MMM.esp

» Sun Apr 03, 2011 9:14 am

Hmm... this is getting odd. Reinstalled FO3, but only installed FWE with the compatible mods and I still get the behaviour with the saved game. Maybe some buggy mod caused this and corrupted my game even though I got rid of it? Anyone else have this kind of thing using FWE?

New Load Order after reinstallation:

Spoiler

[X] Fallout3.esm
[X] Anchorage.esm
[X] ThePitt.esm
[X] BrokenSteel.esm
[X] PointLookout.esm
[X] Zeta.esm
[X] Unofficial Fallout 3 Patch.esm
[X] Project Beauty HD version.esm
[X] CRAFT.esm
[X] CALIBR.esm
[X] FO3 Wanderers Edition - Main File.esm
[X] Mart's Mutant Mod.esm
[X] Unofficial Fallout 3 Patch - Operation Anchorage.esp
[X] Unofficial Fallout 3 Patch - The Pitt.esp
[X] Unofficial Fallout 3 Patch - Broken Steel.esp
[X] Unofficial Fallout 3 Patch - Point Lookout.esp
[X] Unofficial Fallout 3 Patch - Mothership Zeta.esp
[X] Project Beauty- Broken Steel.esp
[X] Project Beauty- Point Lookout.esp
[X] CRAFT - Activation Perk.esp
[X] DarNifiedUIF3.esp
[X] FO3 Wanderers Edition - Main File.esp
[X] FO3 Wanderers Edition - DLC Anchorage.esp
[X] FO3 Wanderers Edition - DLC Broken Steel.esp
[X] FO3 Wanderers Edition - DLC Mothership Zeta.esp
[X] FO3 Wanderers Edition - DLC Point Lookout.esp
[X] FO3 Wanderers Edition - DLC The Pitt.esp
[X] FO3 Wanderers Edition - UFP Support.esp
[X] FO3 Wanderers Edition - Alternate Travel.esp
[X] FO3 Wanderers Edition - Followers Enhanced (BrokenSteel).esp
[X] FO3 Wanderers Edition - Optional VATS Halftime.esp
[X] FO3 Wanderers Edition - Optional Worn Weapons.esp
[X] FO3 Wanderers Edition - Project Beauty.esp
[X] FO3 Wanderers Edition - Project Beauty (HD Addition).esp
[X] FO3 Wanderers Edition - Project Beauty (Followers Enhanced B-S).esp
[X] WeaponModKits.esp
[X] WeaponModKits - FWE Master Release.esp
[X] WeaponModKits - OperationAnchorage.esp
[X] WeaponModKits - ThePitt.esp
[X] WeaponModKits - BrokenSteel.esp
[X] WeaponModKits - PointLookout.esp
[X] WeaponModKits - Zeta.esp
[X] WeaponModKits - FWE Optional Worn Weapons.esp
[X] WMKAA12Shotgun.esp
[X] EVE.esp
[X] EVE - FWE Master Release.esp
[X] EVE - FWE Master Release (Follower Enhanced).esp
[X] EVE Operation Anchorage.esp
[X] EVE - FWE with WeaponModKits.esp
[X] EVE Anchorage - FWE DLC Anchorage.esp
[X] Mart's Mutant Mod.esp
[X] PB MMM HD.esp
[X] Mart's Mutant Mod - Project Beauty.esp
[X] Mart's Mutant Mod - Project Beauty (HD Addition).esp
[X] Mart's Mutant Mod - Project Beauty + FWE.esp
[X] Mart's Mutant Mod - DLC Anchorage.esp
[X] Mart's Mutant Mod - DLC The Pitt.esp
[X] Mart's Mutant Mod - DLC Broken Steel.esp
[X] Mart's Mutant Mod - DLC Point Lookout.esp
[X] Project Beauty- Point Lookout MMM.esp
[X] Mart's Mutant Mod - DLC Zeta.esp
[X] Mart's Mutant Mod - FWE Master Release.esp
[X] Mart's Mutant Mod - FWE with EVE.esp
[X] Mez's Merged Patch 5-0 - DLC-FWE-WMK-MMM.esp

Did you reload your original save or start a new game?.I had same problem with FOOK2 ,So i reinstalled FO3 and FOOK2 and started a new game from birth and have not had any problems since.

» Sun Apr 03, 2011 1:03 pm

I had hoped I didn't need to start a new game. I will test and see if the problem persists. That's 20 hours down the drain

» Sun Apr 03, 2011 2:15 am

Well, if you're using MMM, did you follow the new install / upgrade instructions . . . . i.e. going into a NPC/spawn free zone (i.e.. you home) and waiting for the cell to reset (3 days by default, 7.5 in FWE unless you change it in the control panel) . . . you might want to to that, as it can definitely cause these kinds of problems when new creature/npc scripts are applied to already spawned instances.