It seems that I can't specify soul data when sticking the gem directly into the merchant's inventory... but I can't make the quantity infinite if I place it in the cell.

Perhaps some scripting may be necessary?

EDIT: As far as I can tell, the only necessary script would be one that causes the item to reappear after it is taken (or sold, as the case may be). I can "cheat" and place the items outside interior walls (somewhere in the ether) to prevent theft. I think. Ideas?

EDIT, PART 2: ELECTRIC BUGALOO: I wonder if the "AddSoulgem" command might help?

player->AddSoulgem, "golden saint", Grand

Or perhaps DropSoulgem... except I can't figure out how it works.

EDIT, PART 33 1/2: THE FINAL INSULT: I suppose that I could very well *create* new misc objects in the editor with the same graphics as soul gems and place scripts on them that replace themselves with the appropriate filled soul gem (using the AddSoulgem command) once they enter the player's inventory... and I know this should work because the Morrowind Patch Project does something similar with cursed items.

Example:

begin DaeSummon_Diamond_01if (OnActivate == 1)	if ( MenuMode == 1 )		return	else		Activate		PlaceAtPC "Dremora_lord" 1 128 1		player->removeitem "ingred_Dae_cursed_diamond_01" 1		player->additem "ingred_diamond_01" 1	endifendifend DaeSummon_Diamond_01

The only problem I have to work with is that the player isn't *activating* the item, but rather buying it. But this definitely seems to be the way to go. Something tells me that this script right here is just a few tweaks away from being exactly what I want.

Isn't there an http://www.uesp.net/wiki/Tes3Mod:OnPCAdd trigger? As usual I don't know if it actually does what it says all the time.

Ok, so the script would look like this:

begin BTB_soulgem_mudcrabshort OnPCAddif ( OnPCAdd == 1 )player->removeitem "BTB_soulgem_mudcrab" 1player->AddSoulgem, "mudcrab", pettyreturnendifend BTB_soulgem_mudcrab

(That was a question, by the way. I just pulled that code out of my ass.)

I think that things placed in the cell do actually restock. I seem to remember buying some soul gems from that guy in Vivec, and they restocked despite being clearly visible on a shelf before I bought them.

I've seen (I think in Sandman101's HELLUVA Merchants mod for one) people adding the things they want merchants to stock into a container (crate or something), assigning ownership of the container and then placing the container (cue spooky sound fx) intooo the vooooiiiiid, outside of the visible bits of the interior cell.

Put a script on a container that randomly has a few filled soulgems from a pre-determined list. (I think you can do that)
It would then be different every time you enter the cell.


But BTB want them to sell filled soul gems. You can't put those into a container in the usual manner.


Maybe the ones you bought came from his pocket or container. Unless scripted, the shelf ones wouldn't respawn.

Well, like I said, I'm pretty sure that script is going to be the way to go. I just need someone familiar with the concept of scripting to come along and correct it.

...

*Summons Fliggerty*

Ah, crap... I just realized somehthing.

This change would make my mod for all intents and purposes dependent on the soul gem value rebalance fix from the Morrowind Code Patch. Because I'll have to manually set the price of the new items I add, but I CAN'T specify the price of the soul gem that replaces it, you would otherwise end up with something worth far more than you paid for it.

Blarg >.<

EDIT: or perhaps not. Operating under the assumption that the game's economy is totally [censored] without the soul gem value rebalance, all I'm really doing without it is pissing into an ocean full of piss.

make a container that has what you want to sell. and then make the quantities all negative(eg -5 soulgems means 5 soulgems in inventory that replenish.)
and the place that container in the cell. does not even have to be in the room. (under the floor is common) and then set that container as being owned by the npc i question. all done :dance:

No, you cannot place filled soulgems in containers. As it's been stated numerous times in the thread.

well you can always place it in the npc's personal inventory in -value. if the are blocked. then you just unblock them. if that fails go look at how they did it ingame with the girl in balmora.

Not sure if his daughter has gotten ahold of the lamp, so that might not be reliable for the time being.




Anyway, if you can use a GetItemCount test on the gems, you could re-add (or randomly add) some to the merchant. You can't test for the soul in the gem, and I'm not sure if filled gems have different IDs, so your options are rather limited.

I'm not horribly concerned with randomness... in fact, I've already specified which merchants will receive which gems.

I won;t have a chance to test my script until at least a few days from now, but I think what I have up there *will* work... I just need someone to look at it who knows what in the [censored] they're talking about (because I *really* don't) to tell me if I [censored] something up.

Placing them in Inventory can't be done either.
If you mean Galbedir, all her filled soul gems are laying out in the open.

Yeah, the whole container thing isn't going to work.


Plus, I've already finished with the updated readme that assumes the solution I've been proposing.

Ok, it looks like the script works... sort of. I've yet to test it an a merchant environment, but it half-works if I pick it up. The Addsoulgem command isn't working right, though.

In the e.g. script I think it has to be:

player->AddSoulgem, "mudcrab", Misc_SoulGem_Petty

Valid values (according to p132 of MWSFD) are:

Hope I got it right this time :blush:

Ok, that works.

Now, I need to test it in a merchant situation.

SWEET! It WORKS!

Now, it's time to go full-scale.

Well it's working, but it's also crashing the game...

It seems that I'll have to limit the player to buying one at a time.

Here's the final script, by the way:

begin BTB_soulgemscript_bullnetchshort OnPCAddif ( OnPCAdd == 1 )	if ( MenuMode == 1 )	return	else		player->removeitem "BTB_soulgem_bullnetch" 1		player->addsoulgem, "netch_bull", Misc_SoulGem_Common		return	endifendifend BTB_soulgemscript_bullnetch

EDIT: okay, it's *still* crashing the game... why?

EDIT 2: Ok, more info...

The first one works just fine. The second one *always* crashes the game. Setting it to work OnActivate works just fine, so it seems to have to do specifically with OnPCAdd.

what you could do instead is:

begin BTB_soulgemscript_bullnetchif ( MenuMode == 0 )   returnendifif ( "player"->GetItemCount "BTB_soulgem_bullnetch" > 0 )   "player"->removeitem "BTB_soulgem_bullnetch" 1   "player"->addsoulgem, "netch_bull", Misc_SoulGem_Common    returnendifend BTB_soulgemscript_bullnetch

and plug it onto an invisible activator near the merchant. i'd change the name and include all the other gems you want changed as well.

it's kind of like how i handle changing the bag of tithes i made for religious factions from one weight class to another.

You know what's funny? I JUST thought of the same thing. I thought of the bluescript and knew it did something similar to what I wanted, so I went and had a look at it and then just moved the code over into mine.

I ended up with this:

begin BTB_soulgemscript_mudcrabif ( menumode == 1 )returnelseif ( player->getitemcount, "BTB_soulgem_mudcrab" > 0 )player->removeitem "BTB_soulgem_mudcrab" 1player->addsoulgem, "mudcrab", "Misc_SoulGem_Petty"returnendifendifend BTB_soulgemscript_mudcrab

Works like a charm. Still, I thank you for your help