PC Controller Configurations

Post » Mon Apr 04, 2011 8:36 pm

All but red is subjective, as I prefer the opposite in all instances. I find a controller clumsy. (I'll give you a controller in bed works better than KB/M but it's not un-doable.)

I don't want to insult anyone or start a flaming console vs PC war, but, on a hardware level, the mouses sensor is simply much more precise than anolog. Whether someone is proficient with it is another issue.

There are games I prefer using a controller with, but not a TES (RPG/FPS genre) game. I'm waaaaay more accurate with a mouse. Not to brag, but I'm a freaking awesome quick scope head hunting sniper in TF2. I usually have 85+ percent head shot/kill ratio when I'm warmed up.....quick scoping. Not sitting there zoomed in waiting for some fool to just casually walk past my dot. Give me a controller, I couldn't hit an elephant at 6 paces.


See, this is very true. That's why I'm just asking for the option to use a fully configured Xbox 360 setup. Many people prefer controllers, others prefer keyboard/mouse.

And what I mean with the mouse being innacurate is that you have to actually MOVE the mouse, to move the cursor. Sometimes when trying to turn around/look in another direction, you have to move the mouse, and then lift it back to it's orignal spot and move it again.
But with an anolog stick, you just keep it pressed in a direction until it gets to where you want it. Also, I'm MUCH more accurate with an anolog stick. A mouse does indeed have the potential to be much more precise, if only in the right hands. My hands are NOT the right hands :)
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Post » Tue Apr 05, 2011 12:53 am

See, this is very true. That's why I'm just asking for the option to use a fully configured Xbox 360 setup. Many people prefer controllers, others prefer keyboard/mouse.

And what I mean with the mouse being innacurate is that you have to actually MOVE the mouse, to move the cursor. Sometimes when trying to turn around/look in another direction, you have to move the mouse, and then lift it back to it's orignal spot and move it again.
But with an anolog stick, you just keep it pressed in a direction until it gets to where you want it. Also, I'm MUCH more accurate with an anolog stick. A mouse does indeed have the potential to be much more precise, if only in the right hands. My hands are NOT the right hands :)


I'm all for options, and wish them to. Just don't kill my KB/M is all I ask. (Even if the mouse isn't used there is no reason to kill it.)

Gaming mice! I can do a full 360 in games within in a quarter of an inch if I set my DPI to 5700. If you play with a mix of DPI and mouse speed you can dial it in just right and it's very smooth an accurate.

To each his own as we seem to have agreed on. :)
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Post » Mon Apr 04, 2011 9:50 pm

I'm all for options, and wish them to. Just don't kill my KB/M is all I ask. (Even if the mouse isn't used there is no reason to kill it.)

Gaming mice! I can do a full 360 in games within in a quarter of an inch if I set my DPI to 5700. If you play with a mix of DPI and mouse speed you can dial it in just right and it's very smooth an accurate.

To each his own as we seem to have agreed on. :)


Exactly! And as I use a Mac and the Magic mouse, I'm limited in functionality. To get the desired 360 spin, I'd have to up the sensivity to a point where I couldn't control where I was looking anymore, as any single bump of the mouse would cause the cursor to flail in that direction :(

Not only that, but I just LOVE the Xbox 360 controller. They're just so perfect that I can't imagine using anything else!
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Post » Mon Apr 04, 2011 7:17 pm

I use a bluetooth number pad for the game controls, menus and hotkeys.

Works great with my wireless mouse when sitting on the couch, gaming on an HD projector on my wall that is 20-30 feet away.
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Post » Tue Apr 05, 2011 9:21 am

I agree 9000%

I hate joystick mapping

So far it seems all games for windows games acknowledge the 360 controller. I just can't get used to a keyboard and mouse. Needs to be more fluid
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Post » Mon Apr 04, 2011 9:53 pm

I can't play tes on pc, I've tried and failed. It's crippling. :cry:
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Post » Mon Apr 04, 2011 5:37 pm

I can't play tes on pc, I've tried and failed. It's crippling. :cry:



& gamepads are painful to me (yes they actually hurt) but options are good.
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Post » Tue Apr 05, 2011 4:25 am

I can't play tes on pc, I've tried and failed. It's crippling. :cry:

Try harder. Must....have.....MODS!
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Post » Mon Apr 04, 2011 8:26 pm

Try harder. Must....have.....MODS!

:bowdown: :bowdown: :bowdown:
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Post » Mon Apr 04, 2011 6:11 pm

And what I mean with the mouse being innacurate is that you have to actually MOVE the mouse, to move the cursor. Sometimes when trying to turn around/look in another direction, you have to move the mouse, and then lift it back to it's orignal spot and move it again.


That's why I have a trackball. Whee!
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Post » Mon Apr 04, 2011 9:04 pm

That's why I have a trackball. Whee!


Haha, a very good solution indeed.
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Post » Mon Apr 04, 2011 8:17 pm

Simple.

Aiming with a mouse is clumsy. Aiming with an anolog stick is simple and precise.
Movement using ASDW and the mouse is clumsy. Movement with two anolog sticks is again, simple and precise.
Attacking and defending by clicking the mouse is clumsy. Attacking and defending using two triggers is very simple, and precise.
Using space to activate things is annoying. Simply pressing A is much much better.
Having to press a certain button for sprint/always spring, and also sneak is annoying. Simply applying varying amounts of pressure to the anolog stick to alter your speed is simple and makes sense, and clicking in the anolog stick to sneak is also simple.
Navigating all the menus with the mouse and having to click on everything to activate it is VERY annoying. Simply moving the anolog stick up/down or left/right is a much easier way to navigate, as well as using the two triggers to change between menus. And pressing X to drop an item, or to "take all" is incredible simple and makes sense.
Finally, sitting up close to your computer/laptop, and having to be near a table/desk/other flat surface to be able to use the mouse is annoying and uncomfortable. With a controller, you can recline and sit comfortably, you don't have to be up close to the computer/laptop, and the ergonomic design of a controller is much more comfortable than using your fingers on a keyboard and your hand on a mouse.

That's why controllers are MUCH preffered. I like simple, precise functionality, and the ability to relax while I partake in a 5 hour gaming binge.


A mouse is 100% more precise and quicker to aim with, where as the anolog is very clumsy and floaty... I mean if I had to navigate this forum with a controller, it would take me ages to do anything. And once again keyboard controls, also more precise, change the actiavte to E and jump to space, feels way more natural. And just because the UI is designed for consoles doens't mean the keyboard/mouse is worse, it just means beth has let their PC community down in that aspect.
ALso, controllers have so few buttons in impossible to have enough funcitions practically placed, so you end up have weird work arounds.


Now I agree that relaxing is better than in a chair, but at the same time, it's way more personal and in control.
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Post » Tue Apr 05, 2011 7:58 am

Oblivion's big mistake was the crappy button configuration in general. Not being able to remap things like casting spells to a mouse button was completely [censored], like a lot of things in the game (goty my ass).
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Post » Tue Apr 05, 2011 6:36 am

Mice are more precise on the fly, especially when you have a Razer Naga but controllers feel more comfortable (at least to me) and allows for me to sit back and relax while I play the game on my 52" tv instead of my 17.3" laptop screen and basically use my computer as I would my 360 except maxed out graphics and no lag. Also the controller allows for smoother control of running/walking and is just as efficient if not more and binding keys and making them easier to access. I love playing with a keyboard and mouse but I like the 360 controller better for things like TES and other non-FPS games. If I can get the 360 controller with the PCs graphics, I'm in heaven and that's why I'm going to do. Some people might like the keyboard and mouse better for things like AC and TES but I like the 360 controller better for games like that and you shouldn't judge someone because they would rather use a controller that feels more like an extension of oneself and allows them to sit back and relax.

Oblivion's big mistake was the crappy button configuration in general. Not being able to remap things like casting spells to a mouse button was completely [censored], like a lot of things in the game (goty my ass).


You could remap spells to your mouse buttons just fine. The only thing that had issues being mapped was the PC controls to the 360 controller.
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Post » Tue Apr 05, 2011 8:20 am

Mice are more precise on the fly, especially when you have a Razer Naga but controllers feel more comfortable (at least to me) and allows for me to sit back and relax while I play the game on my 52" tv instead of my 17.3" laptop screen and basically use my computer as I would my 360 except maxed out graphics and no lag. Also the controller allows for smoother control of running/walking and is just as efficient if not more and binding keys and making them easier to access. I love playing with a keyboard and mouse but I like the 360 controller better for things like TES and other non-FPS games. If I can get the 360 controller with the PCs graphics, I'm in heaven and that's why I'm going to do. Some people might like the keyboard and mouse better for things like AC and TES but I like the 360 controller better for games like that and you shouldn't judge someone because they would rather use a controller that feels more like an extension of oneself and allows them to sit back and relax.

Who the hell is judging anyone? All we're talking about are controllers. And honestly the only valid improvement is the fact that you can sit back and relax more, which granted, may be important to some people (quite a few it seems).
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Post » Tue Apr 05, 2011 4:16 am

Who the hell is judging anyone? All we're talking about are controllers. And honestly the only valid improvement is the fact that you can sit back and relax more, which granted, may be important to some people (quite a few it seems).


Well seeing as how there so many people picking at controllers and Eccentricmeat....I would say several people. I'm not saying you were, just saying that I enjoy to use my computer as a console but with sweet graphics. 18 ft HDMI cable to my tv is the greatest part of gaming imo. Otherwise I would be annoyed I spent $4600 on my laptop hehe.
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Post » Mon Apr 04, 2011 5:57 pm

You could remap spells to your mouse buttons just fine.

Actually i couldn't. Mouse remapping was broken for me because the attack was hard coded to the left mouse button. I can change the mapping and but get that action+attack.
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Post » Tue Apr 05, 2011 1:50 am

The game would not let me remap actions to mouse buttons and some of the keys.... really irritated me.
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Post » Mon Apr 04, 2011 6:02 pm

The game would not let me remap actions to mouse buttons and some of the keys.... really irritated me.


Hmm odd. I had spells mapped to the right click on one character and then I had it on mouse button 5/8/9 on the number pad of my Naga. How odd lol. I just couldn't get my damn 360 controller to work with Oblivion.
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Post » Mon Apr 04, 2011 7:04 pm

I can't control FPS games with a controller. I svck at halo. I will use the keyboard/mouse because it is what is familiar and comfortable to me.
I understand your dillema though. Do you know about the program Xpadder? It allows you to map keyboard keys to your controller. It's not the best (as opposed to the game being designed with controller in mind), but it does work.
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Post » Tue Apr 05, 2011 4:26 am

It allows you to map keyboard keys to your controller.

Yes controller schemes are a must if any of the controls exhibit different behavior when being either pressed or held down because usually these are split up on the keyboard making it impossible to emulate the entire scheme on a pc gamepad.

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Post » Mon Apr 04, 2011 8:32 pm

The game would not let me remap actions to mouse buttons and some of the keys.... really irritated me.

If you edit the Oblivion.ini manually, you can do all sorts of wonderful things. I had my player controls mapped to a USB numpad, 4568 for directional, 123
79 mapped as hotkeys. I had five separate controls mapped to my mouse buttons and combined two mods with some remapping of the 7th and 8th hotkey to make the game scroll through a sequence of selectable weapons when rolling the mousewheel up, and a sequence of selectable spells when scrolling the mousewheel down.

Too bad I had to go through that much effort to do something they should have included natively.
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Post » Tue Apr 05, 2011 4:14 am

I agree. I'm used to using a joypad, but I'd like to start using a PC for my gaming. I tried using an emulator in OB which translated the controller bindings into Keyboard/mouse movements and tricked the system. It still doesn't work brilliantly. Things like anologue movement with the stick (rather than fixed walk/run), and menus are still an issue. They should definitely program in a complete controller setup for the official pads so that the PC plays identically (controller wise) to the console version.
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Post » Tue Apr 05, 2011 2:01 am

+1

I can't use the mouse for an extended period of time without getting shoulder pain, so I recently bought a wireless xbox 360 controller to replay Morrowind, and it's just great.
Navigating the menus is a bit tricky, but you get used to that.
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