crashing on save load : III

» Sat May 28, 2011 2:07 am

every time i load savegames morrowind will ctd asoon as its done loading area, however i create a new game. How do i fix this problem?

my load order:

[Game Files]GameFile0=Morrowind.esmGameFile1=Better Heads.esmGameFile2=Tribunal.esmGameFile3=Better Heads Tribunal addon.esmGameFile4=Bloodmoon.esmGameFile5=Better Heads Bloodmoon addon.esmGameFile6=abotWaterLife.esmGameFile7=TR_Data.esmGameFile8=TR_Map1.esmGameFile9=TR_Map2.esmGameFile10=MCA.esmGameFile11=MW_Children_1_0.esmGameFile12=Texture Fix 1.8.esmGameFile13=Texture Fix - Bloodmoon 1.1.esmGameFile14=entertainers.espGameFile15=AreaEffectArrows.espGameFile16=bcsounds.espGameFile17=adamantiumarmor.espGameFile18=EBQ_Artifact.espGameFile19=Siege at Firemoth.espGameFile20=Lgnpc_SN.espGameFile21=SpzInteriorDaylight.espGameFile22=Private_Mobile_Base.espGameFile23=Private_Mobile_Base2.espGameFile24=Private_Mobile_Base3.espGameFile25=Better_Armor(Tb_pack_baseEN).espGameFile26=Private_Mobile_Base4.espGameFile27=TLM - Light Sources (Natural Water).espGameFile28=Better Creature (rev1_Daedroth).espGameFile29=TLM - Ambient Light + Fog Update.espGameFile30=TLM - NPC Light Sources.espGameFile31=TLM - External Lights Ownership.espGameFile32=Better Creature (rev2_GoldSaintS).espGameFile33=Better Creature (rev3_Winged_Twilight).espGameFile34=Better Creature (rev4_Dremora).espGameFile35=TLM - Light Sources (Lanterns).espGameFile36=TLM - Light Sources (Clearer Lighting).espGameFile37=Better armor (rev6_Iron).espGameFile38=Divine_domina_part_1.espGameFile39=Nymeria's Monthly Respawn.espGameFile40=Divine_domina_part_2.espGameFile41=Nymeria's Faster Walk.espGameFile42=Divine_domina_part_3_Tribunal.espGameFile43=Windows Glow.espGameFile44=Better Bodies.espGameFile45=Haunted Tombs v1.06.espGameFile46=MWE_Blocking.espGameFile47=MWE_Writing.espGameFile48=MWE_Combat.espGameFile49=MWE_Journal.espGameFile50=MWE_Crime - Less Annoying Guards.espGameFile51=MWE_Crime - Stealing Bugfix.espGameFile52=No Death warrants.espGameFile53=EcoAdj Ingredients.espGameFile54=EcoAdjCrime.espGameFile55=EcoAdjMisc.espGameFile56=Realistic Weather v2.0.espGameFile57=MWE_Crime - Stealth.espGameFile58=Scripted_Spells.espGameFile59=Divine_domina_part_4.espGameFile60=EcoAdjDaedricDrops.espGameFile61=EcoAdjMerchantSkills.espGameFile62=ImprovedTeleportation2.0.espGameFile63=Nonvdes.espGameFile64=abotWaterLifeTRaddon.espGameFile65=abotWhereAreAllBirdsGoing.espGameFile66=Undo Death - balanced.espGameFile67=horationpcenhanced12-trib.espGameFile68=horationpcenhanced12-bm.espGameFile69=MWE_Base.espGameFile70=Vampire_Embrace.espGameFile71=Thirsk Expanded Family.espGameFile72=Unofficial_Expansion_for_Louis'_BeautyShop.espGameFile73=BB_Clothiers_of_Vvardenfell_v1.1.espGameFile74=DM_DB Armor Replacer-ExpDDBA.espGameFile75=Louis_FF7 JENOVA's Children.espGameFile76=Louis_BeautyShop_v1.5.espGameFile77=Blood and Gore.espGameFile78=Better armor (rev3_Ebony).espGameFile79=IceNioLivRobeReplacerPLUS.espGameFile80=Disarming Zero.espGameFile81=Better armor (rev2_Dwemer).espGameFile82=Romance_v37EV.espGameFile83=Better Creature (rev5_Kwama).espGameFile84=Visceral Discernment.espGameFile85=Better Creature (rev6_ClanFear).espGameFile86=Better Creature (rev7_Scamp).espGameFile87=Better Creature (rev8_Hunger+LevList).espGameFile88=Better Creature (rev9_ALLatronach).espGameFile89=Health Indicators.espGameFile90=Better Creature (rev8_Hunger).espGameFile91=Better Clothes_v1.1_nac.espGameFile92=Better Creature (rev10_Undead(AD).espGameFile93=TC_SadrithMoraClosed.espGameFile94=Better Creature (rev10_Undead(ST).espGameFile95=LGNPC_GnaarMok_v1_10.espGameFile96=LGNPC_AldVelothi_v1_20.espGameFile97=Better armor (rev8_Imperial(STANDART).espGameFile98=Better armor (rev7_Templar).espGameFile99=Better Creature (rev11_Rat).espGameFile100=LGNPC_MaarGan_v1_20.espGameFile101=LGNPC_HlaOad_v1_32.espGameFile102=BetterClothesForTB.espGameFile103=PlayableChildren2.0.espGameFile104=Westly's Master Headpack X.espGameFile105=NEDE v1.2.espGameFile106=LGNPC_Aldruhn_v1_20.espGameFile107=LGNPC_Aldruhn_v1_20_suppl.espGameFile108=LGNPC_Pelagiad_v1_22.espGameFile109=Vality's Bitter Coast Addon.espGameFile110=Vality's Balmora Addon.espGameFile111=LGNPC_TelMora_v1_20.espGameFile112=LGNPC_Khuul_v2_10.espGameFile113=LGNPC_VivecFQ_v2_10.espGameFile114=LGNPC_SecretMasters_v1_30.espGameFile115=LGNPC_IndarysManor_v1_51.espGameFile116=Spect Sorcery pt 1.espGameFile117=LGNPC_VivecRedoran_v1_50.espGameFile118=Romance_Follow_v10EV.espGameFile119=Better armor (rev4 Chitin).espGameFile120=Prostitution_v12EV.espGameFile121=horationpcenhanced12-ve.espGameFile122=CR Ore Resource 1.0.espGameFile123=correctUV Ore Replacer 1.0.espGameFile124=LGNPC_PaxRedoran_v1_20.espGameFile125=LGNPC_SoulSicknessPatch_v1_00.espGameFile126=Better_Armor(Rev.10 - Orcish-ST).espGameFile127=Better armor (rev1_BoundDaedrArm).espGameFile128=Texture Fix -TR -1.0.espGameFile129=Better armor (rev5_Steel).espGameFile130=Better armor (rev11_Indoril(AD).espGameFile131=Better armor (rev14_Glass).espGameFile132=Better armor (rev1 Daedrik).espGameFile133=New Argonian Bodies (Slof Textures) - Mature.espGameFile134=New Khajiit Bodies (Slof Textures) - Mature.espGameFile135=Gravedigger.espGameFile136=NPC Functionality.espGameFile137=Westly_Presents_BB_Almalexia_Add_on.espGameFile138=Ald Redaynia Extended COM.espGameFile139=Better armor (rev12_Furs&Nord&Leather).espGameFile140=CoM_Fix.ESPGameFile141=Westly Presents_Creed of the Assassin.espGameFile142=UniqueFinery_NoRobe.espGameFile143=Windows Glow - Tribunal Eng.espGameFile144=Windows Glow - Bloodmoon Eng.espGameFile145=Clean Assassins Creed Weapons.espGameFile146=Divine_domina_part_5.espGameFile147=Clean Chargen_Revamped_v2_3.espGameFile148=Animated Morrowind 1.0.espGameFile149=Windows Glow - Raven Rock Eng.espGameFile150=Acrilix's Hi-res Signs.espGameFile151=Creatures.espGameFile152=MCA - COV Addon.espGameFile153=MCA - Guards Patch.ESPGameFile154=MCA - Divine Domina Addon.ESPGameFile155=MCA - TR Addon.ESPGameFile156=Vurt's Solstheim Trees & Bushes Replacer.ESPGameFile157=Census and Excise Office.espGameFile158=Unique Jewelry and Accessories.espGameFile159=Protective Guards.espGameFile160=Clean Vurt's Ashlands Overhaul.espGameFile161=Water Level Fix - Full.espGameFile162=Animated_Morrowind - Expanded.espGameFile163=Khuul Expansion 1.2.espGameFile164=Psy_VivecGodReplacer_Tribunal.espGameFile165=Standard_Uniforms.espGameFile166=Vurt's Grazelands Trees.ESPGameFile167=NoM 3.0.espGameFile168=Merged_Leveled_Lists.espGameFile169=Blood and Gore Morrowind-Tribunal add-on.espGameFile170=Blood and Gore BM add-on.esp

» Sat May 28, 2011 12:05 pm

We're going to need more info.
Which mods are you using? Do you get any warnings or errors? Is your save file fully updated in Wrye mash?

» Sat May 28, 2011 3:14 pm

i am using the latest beta build of mge, and the mw codepatch. There are no warnings in the warnings.txt, and wyre doesnt prevent it from crashing. This problem isnt just affecting one save game, it effects all savegames including new ones i make(tested. and verified this)

» Sat May 28, 2011 11:04 am

i am using the latest beta build of mge

did it start to happen after a change to MGE? and latest beta being?

» Sat May 28, 2011 7:23 am

did it start to happen after a change to MGE? and latest beta being?

i will try running morrowind with mge disabled and see if that fixes it

edit: disabling mge doesnt fix the problem, it likely lies elsewhere. I am going to add my load order to my first post

» Sat May 28, 2011 3:41 am

Two questions:
Have you used http://code.google.com/p/mlox/wiki/Mlox yet? It might have some suggestions for you on optimizing your Order.

And, do you have more than 200 save files in your Save folder? If so, remove/delete as many as you can.

» Sat May 28, 2011 7:45 am

try it without MWSE mods (if u have any) and disable it i MGE, worked for me.

» Sat May 28, 2011 2:24 am

reall smart, double post.

» Sat May 28, 2011 12:08 pm

Try removing MWE mods - they are know to cause crashing on load and messing up the save games.

» Sat May 28, 2011 3:05 am

Are you loading quicksaves or autosaves? Can you try and load other ones if you are?

It's a common problem that they get corrupted. Sometimes people don't think to try a "regular" save after trying both quick- & auto- saves.

» Sat May 28, 2011 4:24 pm

it is all save games

» Sat May 28, 2011 6:13 pm

i have narrowed down the cause mod to haratiosnpcenhanced mod, this is the only morrowind setup that i have had a problem with this mod, and it is an essential mod to me. How do i fix this, or what alternatives are there?

» Sat May 28, 2011 4:22 pm

i have narrowed down the cause mod to haratiosnpcenhanced mod, this is the only morrowind setup that i have had a problem with this mod, and it is an essential mod to me. How do i fix this, or what alternatives are there?

There is an MWSE alternative for this mod that cdcooley made.
Found http://gmml.pbworks.com/w/page/5990269/MWSE-Mods#N

MWSE is much more stable than MWE, so you might have better success.

» Sat May 28, 2011 10:18 am

I suppose you have updated MW code patch recently? After the update to 1.9 all of my saves crashed on area loading.
If so, there is a possible workaround in the FAQ of MWCP:

Q: Morrowind crashes when I load a savegame made before the patch.
A: Try repairing the savegame with Wrye Mash. If it still crashes try removing debris cells and spawned creatures in Wrye Mash. If it still crashes, you should ask for help at the official forums.