Will Obsidian Develop Future Games? : Fallout Series Discussion

» Sat May 28, 2011 6:33 am

Sheesh, I pray to god every day for having Obsidian and Beth together doing the next Fallout. Sandbox + decent writing and game mechanics = win

Hear hear! :foodndrink:

» Sat May 28, 2011 11:21 am

So that's not a issue of a "terrible writing" but more of a "wrong dialogue text" which can be re-written and fixed(and I have yet to encounter these problems you speak of).
And it still doesn't chance the fact that dialogues, writing and characters quality literally destroy the Fallout 3 counterparts. Tourism, safari, sandbox and the exploration are Bethesda's only strongest suit since Oblivion. But nothing else IMO.

Half of the places *aren't* total bullhonkey just because they are not dripping with loot or monsters to grind. If I wanted my daily fix of tourism and dungeon crawling, I would probably play Diablo 2 or Oblivion with mods.

I think he means that places such as the Wolfhorn Ranch were just put their so they could tell Bethesda:
Obsidian: "Yeah look we have over 100 locations!"
Bethesda : "Great when will it be done?"
Obsidian Assistant: "Sir, after fixing all the bugs it will be done in March."
Obsidian: "It will be ready in October!"
-NOT WHAT ACTUALLY HAPPENED SO DON'T B!TCH ABOUT IT!-

And I bet you have come across those problems, maybe you just didn't notice... The first time I came across it I had to load 4 times before I realized they just put more words in the dialogue then they guy said, so you probably just didn't notice.

I say Bethesda would ruin Fallout and themselves if they let this laziness from Obsidian into another game with their name on it...

» Sat May 28, 2011 12:41 pm

Obsidian did a terrible job with the writing and voicing in this game. First off, the writing half the time isn't the same as what the voice of the character was saying.

Maybe that's just your version of the game. :mellow:

Second, the voice would sometimes skip half of the dialogue and just say a word or two.

Maybe that's just your version of the game. :mellow:

I mean... Obsidian is just lazy. With the game world and everything. I mean, half of the places on the map are total bullsh!t, for example, Chance's Map, a place in Fallout: New Vegas... it's just a little lines dug out in the sand, I mean yeah it's cool to look at for a second, but the place has no definitive reason to be there.

Did you read All Roads?

Same goes for... let's say Goodsprings Cemetary and Goodsprings Source, they're like right next to Goodspring, they really don't need to be marked places on the map.

I do agree that there are tons of locations that did not in fact need a map marker what so ever.
But I think it's important that these locations don't have an "OMYGOSHAWESOME" dungeon or loot.
It makes for a more realistic game-world.
And Fallout was never about exploration until FO3 anyway so Obsidian did a fine job with the game-world.

And also, there's this huge Canyon blocking one-fourth of the map, the game could've been so bigger if that canyon was lessened half it's size. Same goes for the North West, South West, South, North East corners... they could've had more content to them but no, instead they just put invisible walls and canyons in the way.

You do realize that it's hard to create a gameworld that fits together and that they might not have had enough time to fill the world to the pores with content right?

Dear god, don't let them make another game.

Dear Bruce Willis, let them make every Fallout game from now on.

Fallout is about AMERICA in a post-apocalyptic world, it's only better they show what happened to the rest of the country... instead of being in the East.

I fail to understand the meaning of this post in reply to mine. :bonk:

» Sat May 28, 2011 5:41 pm

Maybe that's just your version of the game. :mellow:

Maybe that's just your version of the game. :mellow:

Why would their be a different voicing for different systems (those are SUPPOSED to be the only differences with the game besides the PC's G.E.C.K.)

Did you read All Roads?

I did but it still atleast should be a treasure map or give all the marked locations

I do agree that there are tons of locations that did not in fact need a map marker what so ever.
But I think it's important that these locations don't have an "OMYGOSHAWESOME" dungeon or loot.
It makes for a more realistic game-world.
And Fallout was never about exploration until FO3 anyway so Obsidian did a fine job with the game-world.

I say not all should have, as you call it, an "OMYGOSHAWESOME" loot but atleast more than 3

You do realize that it's hard to create a gameworld that fits together and that they might not have had enough time to fill the world to the pores with content right?

Yes but Bethesda did it 2 years ago, why not Obsidian

Dear Bruce Willis, let them make every Fallout game from now on.

Please Chuck Norris kick Bruce Willis' head off if he allows it

» Sat May 28, 2011 5:37 pm

"Why would their be a different voicing for different systems (those are SUPPOSED to be the only differences with the game besides the PC's G.E.C.K.)"

I dunno, but my game does not have anything like he described.

"I did but it still atleast should be a treasure map or give all the marked locations"

Nah, it's more like a fun little hint.
Just cause Chase did a map does not mean that loot magically spawned there thanks to him.
He did a map, nothing more.
And if we were to be given the locations by the map then the location should be named "Unknown location" on the main map.
Cause I don't see how a bottle means you know the name of the location it represents.

"I say not all should have, as you call it, an "OMYGOSHAWESOME" loot but atleast more than 3"

There are only 3 locations with great loot?

"Yes but Bethesda did it 2 years ago, why not Obsidian"

Maybe Obsidian didn't get enough time?
Bethesda did after all push the game out the door too soon which resulted in it's bugginess.

"Please Chuck Norris kick Bruce Willis' head off if he allows it"

Please! Chuck Norris ain't got nothing on Sir Willis.

» Sat May 28, 2011 12:53 pm

I dunno, but my game does not have anything like he described.

Alot of people haven't noticed it yet

Nah, it's more like a fun little hint.
Just cause Chase did a map does not mean that loot magically spawned there thanks to him.
He did a map, nothing more.
And if we were to be given the locations by the map then the location should be named "Unknown location" on the main map.
Cause I don't see how a bottle means you know the name of the location it represents.

Well I'd think an empty bottle was a bar or a winery, it should atleast have told you somthing interesting was their

There are only 3 locations with great loot?

as far as I've found...yeah(but not great more like semi-good and snowglobes don't count)

Maybe Obsidian didn't get enough time?
Bethesda did after all push the game out the door too soon which resulted in it's bugginess.

Maybe, maybe not. Who's to say but them?

Please! Chuck Norris ain't got nothing on Sir Willis.

Fine then, Barney! Please you big purple dinosaur don't let Obsidian make another game (notice not just Fallout games, have you played Alpha Protocal?) EVER!!!!!!

» Sat May 28, 2011 2:22 pm

Sebor, not going to reply to you if you reply in my quote like that.

» Sat May 28, 2011 2:44 am

Sebor, not going to reply to you if you reply in my quote like that.

sorry... Made my acount last week, I have no idea how to do the quote, unquote thing

» Sat May 28, 2011 6:22 pm

sorry... Made my acount last week, I have no idea how to do the quote, unquote thing

Kay.
On the three locations thing.
Erm.
There is this trailer to the south of Goodsprings with a skill "book" in it.
There's Deathclaw PromonitorynonronrerAPsfjasklf ASNasfmc (Can't remember it's name)
There's that house to the west of Vegas with a cellar with a Gauss Rifle in it.
There's the YCS location.
There's a cave by Jacobstown with some great loot in it.
There's Windcast Cavern (???) which is filled with deathclaws and has Mercy in it.
There's Black Mountain which is just filled with great expensive stuff to loot.

There are actually tons of locations with great loot in them from my experience.
But there are crap locations as well.
But Goodsprings souce is actually a great location.
If I want to wait 3 days on hardcoe mode for shops to re-supply then it's great since it has gecko's nearby and free water.

» Sat May 28, 2011 1:21 pm

I only found three... The Deathclaw Place I knew about, I didn't consider Black Mountain as a place for loot (even though I found a really good amount of caps there) and I didn't consider the Jaconsville caverns (I know they have a disserent name) either.

» Sat May 28, 2011 4:57 am

Sadly (for me) FO4 is gonna be developed for Bethesda, well, more happiness for the FO3 fans anyway (but not for me)

While I find FONV to be a big improvement, I still had countless hours of fun playing FO3. I'm sure I'll get enjoyment out of FO4.
I just hope they can find a way to change up the countless dungeons we'll inevitably have to crawl through (if you want to find the content, you gotta do it). I was ready to spoon my eyes out from the cut and paste office buildings in FO3 (the metros didn't annoy me as much. I'd think metros really would be similar).

As far as the voice acting and dialogue, I'll just adjust my standards to sandbox so I can enjoy the game instead of picking nits.

Nope.
The Pitt has such amazing potential creativity sprouting out from every spore.
In fact a DLC doesn't justify The Pitt's awesomeness(I'm still amazed this is a real word).
It should be expanded on IMO and I'd much rather take the industrial hefty radiation and unique mutations over NYC smuggler den or Commonwealth android wars.

The Swede is spot on.

Obsidian did a terrible job with the writing and voicing in this game. \

Funniest line of the year. An instant classic.

» Sat May 28, 2011 11:58 am

Please! Chuck Norris ain't got nothing on Sir Willis.

At least not when it comes to acting anyway.

» Sat May 28, 2011 1:29 pm

At least not when it comes to acting anyway.

He's also way sixier than Norris.

» Sat May 28, 2011 11:11 am

He's also way sixier than Norris.

I'd have to take your word for it. Angelina Jolie does a bit more for me than either of them.

» Sat May 28, 2011 6:17 pm

@Demon-I think you just spoke blaspheme to him :laugh:

@thread- Develop? No. Writing, Dialogue, and Story? Yes. I think the Beth and Obsidian teams need to combine their pros so they balance out the others cons.

» Sat May 28, 2011 6:20 am

Bethesda and Obsidian should create the next Fallout

Maybe its the only way to please everyone, considering that people have discussing about this matter since the day release

Obsidian did a terrible job with the writing and voicing in this game. \

The same i can say about Fallout 3 then, if you think is that good writting :whistling:

» Sat May 28, 2011 4:00 pm

Isnt a "Spin off" considered Non.Canon?

Doesn't have to be. Bethesda would be able to say that something in an Obsidian FO game is not canon but I doubt they would have to do such a thing.

» Sat May 28, 2011 1:08 pm

There are tons of locations in NV that have awesome items, but there are few locations that have tons of VENDOR TRASH items and that is what they want. I do not care for vendor trash, but that is just me.

» Sat May 28, 2011 1:13 pm

"Will Obsidian Develop Future Games? "

Let's hope, my children, let's hope.
On your knees, lower you head and join your hands and pray HARD, VERY HARD.

» Sat May 28, 2011 5:06 am

Isnt a "Spin off" considered Non.Canon?

Depends.... The Stargate movie has a spin off TV series that isn't canon (in relation to the movie), according to its makers at least - whereas the TV series has extra TV series that spun off from it, which are canon in relation to the original TV series.

» Sat May 28, 2011 1:55 pm

"Will Obsidian Develop Future Games? "

Let's hope, my children, let's hope.
On your knees, lower you head and join your hands and pray HARD, VERY HARD.

This

» Sat May 28, 2011 5:41 pm

Depends.... The Stargate movie has a spin off TV series that isn't canon (in relation to the movie), according to its makers at least -

But the original stargate movie is canon within the context of the TV series. :bonk:

As for whether or not Obsidian gets to do another spin-off? Signs point to maybe. Personally, I wouldn't bother with 90% of Obsidian's staff. Just some of the writers familiar with fallout. Unfortunately, there's no way of telling whether or not gamesas will do more Fallout spin-offs. not like we'd see another fallout game for another 4-5 years.