Something I noticed

Post » Sat May 28, 2011 1:46 pm

Okay, so, this is my first topic (newbie), but I just noticed something yesterday while playing morrowind. Had to post it XD

One of the Nerevarine prophecies, the Lost Prophecy, contains something that made me think: http://uesp.net/wiki/Lore:The_Lost_Prophecy

From seventh sign of eleventh generation,
Neither Hound nor Guar, nor Seed nor Harrow,
But Dragon-born and far-star-marked,
Outlander Incarnate beneath Red Mountain,
Blessed Guest counters seven curses,
Star-blessed hand wields thrice-cursed blade,
To reap the harvest of the unmourned house.

Notice the third line? Dragon-Born. Now this might simply mean that the Nerevarine came under the imperial sign (which the original text also mentions), but what
if it DOES mean that the Nerevarine was (or still is, i hope) an actual Dragon-Born? After all, it's a prophecy.

What do you think?
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Post » Sat May 28, 2011 5:10 am

im thinking that the player is a dragon or a beast of some sort, but also can just be a dragon killer and nothing more to rule over everything.

mostly i think something is hidden from us.
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Post » Sat May 28, 2011 9:34 am

im thinking that the player is a dragon or a beast of some sort, but also can just be a dragon killer and nothing more to rule over everything.

mostly i think something is hidden from us.


ehh,,... the player isn't a dragon, nor is he/she a beast. Dragon-Born are people like you and me, but seem to be able to understand dragons (and thus use Thu'Um or whatever it is called)

what i was simply trying to imply that the Nerevarine (player character in morrowind) might have the powers your player in skyrim is going to have.
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Post » Sat May 28, 2011 9:45 am

I believe the term dragon-born in the Nereverine prophecy is just referring to the PC hailing from Cyrodiil.
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Post » Sat May 28, 2011 1:34 pm

ehh,,... the player isn't a dragon, nor is he/she a beast. Dragon-Born are people like you and me, but seem to be able to understand dragons (and thus use Thu'Um or whatever it is called)

what i was simply trying to imply that the Nerevarine (player character in morrowind) might have the powers your player in skyrim is going to have.


hmm maybe your right but something is oddly hidden though
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Post » Sat May 28, 2011 3:47 am

(...) but what if it DOES mean that the Nerevarine was (or still is, i hope) an actual Dragon-Born? After all, it's a prophecy. (...)

Isn't the Nerevarine dead? I mean the game is 200 years after Oblivion.

BTW, here's a http://www.mwmythicmods.com/fishystick.jpg for you!
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Post » Sat May 28, 2011 4:56 am

I believe the term dragon-born in the Nereverine prophecy is just referring to the PC hailing from Cyrodiil.


That's what UESP (and the document itself, for that matter) states, yes, and i think so too. However: the term Dragon-Born is a rather odd way to describe the Nerevarine's coming from Cyrodiil, right?

I dunno if the developers intended this, or if it indeed simply means nerevarine is from cyrodiil, but don't forget: this is elder scrolls lore, and gamesas likes it's stories complex :)

Oh, and Walek: thanks for the fishy stick (nice tradition XD), but do remember: the nerevarine might be immune to age due to corprus.
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Post » Sat May 28, 2011 4:27 pm

they also can make mistake's , but im not going to say how .

but maybe the hero from oblivion is your father ,or the other guy is your uncle lol.jk

so yeah maybe he is .
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Post » Sat May 28, 2011 12:50 pm

Isn't the Nerevarine dead? I mean the game is 200 years after Oblivion.

He's immune to aging and disease, so it's not impossible for him/her to still be alive.

Still, I see no relation between this and Skyrim.
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Post » Sat May 28, 2011 10:14 am

Well, I'm hoping it ties in and connects with Morrowind somehow because I used my character in MW, but not in OB (since I didn't like the story) and I'm wanting to reuse her in Skyrim. And to carry on her story, I would want something to tie it together.
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Post » Sat May 28, 2011 5:09 pm

I'm not trying to say that we'll be playing the nerevarine again in skyrim (i HIGHLY doubt it:) ) but, that the nerevarine 'might' have been a dragonborn. After all, your skyrim char is/was not the only dragonborn out there. All the others might be dead though, so that leaves you the only one left. :(
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Post » Sat May 28, 2011 2:43 am

That's what UESP (and the document itself, for that matter) states, yes, and i think so too. However: the term Dragon-Born is a rather odd way to describe the Nerevarine's coming from Cyrodiil, right?

I dunno if the developers intended this, or if it indeed simply means nerevarine is from cyrodiil, but don't forget: this is elder scrolls lore, and gamesas likes it's stories complex :)

Oh, and Walek: thanks for the fishy stick (nice tradition XD), but do remember: the nerevarine might be immune to age due to corprus.

I might be crazy, but it says Dragon-Born, and Far-Star marked. Combine that with the Septims being dragonborn and the emperor believed you would be the Nerevarine, and you know where I'm going with this.
Edit: I think that the Nerevarine had left for Akavir by the start of OB, or am I completely lost in lore here?
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Post » Sat May 28, 2011 5:16 am

I might be crazy, but it says Dragon-Born, and Far-Star marked. Combine that with the Septims being dragonborn and the emperor believed you would be the Nerevarine, and you know where I'm going with this.
Edit: I think that the Nerevarine had left for Akavir by the start of OB, or am I completely lost in lore here?


yeah, left on an expedition for akavir and 'has not been heard of since'. Might have been bethesda's way to kill off someone who doesn't age
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Post » Sat May 28, 2011 11:35 am

Edit: I think that the Nerevarine had left for Akavir by the start of OB, or am I completely lost in lore here?


Nobody knows for certain what happened with Nerevearine. That he has gone to Akavit is a rumor that may and may not be true.
What is known: he isn't in Morrowind any longer.
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Post » Sat May 28, 2011 3:06 am

In the context of the Nerevarine prophecies, I assume that "Dragon-Born" simply means that the Nerevarine is from the Empire, and not a native of Morrowind, as the Nerevarine is an outlander. I see no reason why the Nerevarine should need to be a Dragonborn like the protagonist of Skyrim as the Nerevarine never had to fight dragons. And in any case, I suspect that at the time that Morrowind was made, Bethesda had not actually planned for "Dragonborn" to refer to the type of person you are in Skyrim, so if the Nerevarine was one, he would become so retroactively. In any case, if the Nerevarine also had access to the same kind of powers the player will in Skyrim, you'd think you would have been able to use them in the game, sure, you might not have been fighting dragons in Morrowind, but some of these new dragon shouts that Bethesda has described sound like they could be useful for fighting Sixth House cultists too, I'd say.

As far as the Nerevarine going to Akavir, I think that's just Bethesda's way of removing the Nerevarine from the equation while leaving his fate up to players to decide. Did the Nerevarine die in Akavir, or even before reaching it? Or is the Nerevarine living happily there? Perhaps the rumor was wrong to begin with? You can decide that for yourself.
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Post » Sat May 28, 2011 5:41 am

(...) Oh, and Walek: thanks for the fishy stick (nice tradition XD), but do remember: the nerevarine might be immune to age due to corprus.

He's immune to aging and disease, so it's not impossible for him/her to still be alive.
(...)

Thx, now I remember!
I so totally have to play MW again :)
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