Load Order assist

Post » Sat May 28, 2011 7:29 am

ok guys i realize you probably get this alot but i need some assistance. my Fallout game is riddled with bugs, glitches and CTD's and i'm pulling my hair out trying to figure it out. no matter what combination i try it seems to either fix only certain things, or the game just wont start period. I'm running the game on Windows 7 if that makes any difference.

heres my load order:

Fallout3.esm
BrokenSteel.esm
Anchorage.esm
ThePitt.esm
PointLookout.esm
Zeta.esm
CALIBR.esm
xCALIBR.esm
CRAFT.esm
HairPack.esm
Project Beauty HD version.esm
Mart's Mutant Mod.esm
FO3 Wanderers Edition - Main File.esm
Unofficial Fallout 3 Patch.esm
Unofficial Fallout 3 Patch - Operation Anchorage.esp
Unofficial Fallout 3 Patch - The Pitt.esp
Unofficial Fallout 3 Patch - Broken Steel.esp
Unofficial Fallout 3 Patch - Point Lookout.esp
Unofficial Fallout 3 Patch - Mothership Zeta.esp
EVE.esp
FO3 Wanderers Edition - Main File.esp
FO3 Wanderers Edition - DLC The Pitt.esp
FO3 Wanderers Edition - DLC Anchorage.esp
FO3 Wanderers Edition - DLC Mothership Zeta.esp
FO3 Wanderers Edition - DLC Broken Steel.esp
FO3 Wanderers Edition - DLC Point Lookout.esp
FO3 Wanderers Edition - Project Beauty (HD Addition).esp
EVE - FWE Master Release.esp
EVE Operation Anchorage.esp
EVE Anchorage - FWE DLC Anchorage.esp
Mart's Mutant Mod - FWE Master Release.esp
XFO_Radiation_changes.esp
XFO_Weapon_Jamming.esp
XFO_rarity_ammo_mild.esp
XFO_rarity_drugs_mild.esp
Mart's Mutant Mod - XFO.esp
FPS Grenade Hotkey.esp
xCALIBR_override.esp
xCALIBRmunitions.esp
Fellout-Full.esp
GalaxyNewsRadio100[M].esp
Unique Dogmeat.esp
bltcstim.esp
Princess Better Prompts v1pt1.esp
bittercup_comp.esp
Tailor Maid.esp
Tailor Maid Anchorage.esp
Tailor Maid Brokensteel.esp
Tailor Maid PITT.esp
Tailor Maid Black Retex.esp
Phalanx-VanillaHire.1.3.esp
Phalanx-Obedient-Dogmeat.esp
FollowersRelax.esp
The Groovatron.esp
M1911.esp
LR300_Arpeggiator.esp
ZL-SVD.esp
Black Hood.esp
VaultNo5EV_GNR.esp
PortableMattress.esp
mazas_campfire.esp
nightvisiongogglesft.esp
Backpacks - SedPL.esp
Camo Uniforms Remix.esp
3EFwandererGear.esp
Mysteriouswoman_outfitonly.esp
Binoculars and Scopes.esp
UsableCigarettes.esp
Mart's Mutant Mod.esp
Mart's Mutant Mod - Reduced Wasteland Spawns.esp
Mart's Mutant Mod - Increased Spawns.esp
Mart's Mutant Mod - Feral Ghoul Rampage.esp
Mart's Mutant Mod - Hunting & Looting.esp
Mart's Mutant Mod - Tougher Traders.esp
Mart's Mutant Mod - Natural Selection.esp
Mart's Mutant Mod - Zones Respawn.esp
Mart's Mutant Mod - DLC Anchorage.esp
Mart's Mutant Mod - DLC The Pitt.esp
Mart's Mutant Mod - DLC Broken Steel.esp
Mart's Mutant Mod - DLC Point Lookout.esp
Mart's Mutant Mod - FWE with EVE.esp
Mart's Mutant Mod - Project Beauty (HD Addition).esp
Mart's Mutant Mod - Project Beauty + FWE.esp
DarNifiedUIF3.esp
DUIF3Extras.esp

Total active plugins: 85
Total plugins: 85

anynody have any idea? i'm running the plugins from FOIP so i had hoped that would help, but to no avail =[

any help would be greatly appreciated =]
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Deon Knight
 
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Post » Sat May 28, 2011 10:58 am

ok guys i realize you probably get this alot but i need some assistance. my Fallout game is riddled with bugs, glitches and CTD's and i'm pulling my hair out trying to figure it out. no matter what combination i try it seems to either fix only certain things, or the game just wont start period. I'm running the game on Windows 7 if that makes any difference.

heres my load order:

Fallout3.esm
BrokenSteel.esm
Anchorage.esm
ThePitt.esm
PointLookout.esm
Zeta.esm
CALIBR.esm
xCALIBR.esm
CRAFT.esm
HairPack.esm
Project Beauty HD version.esm
Mart's Mutant Mod.esm
FO3 Wanderers Edition - Main File.esm
Unofficial Fallout 3 Patch.esm
Unofficial Fallout 3 Patch - Operation Anchorage.esp
Unofficial Fallout 3 Patch - The Pitt.esp
Unofficial Fallout 3 Patch - Broken Steel.esp
Unofficial Fallout 3 Patch - Point Lookout.esp
Unofficial Fallout 3 Patch - Mothership Zeta.esp
EVE.esp
FO3 Wanderers Edition - Main File.esp
FO3 Wanderers Edition - DLC The Pitt.esp
FO3 Wanderers Edition - DLC Anchorage.esp
FO3 Wanderers Edition - DLC Mothership Zeta.esp
FO3 Wanderers Edition - DLC Broken Steel.esp
FO3 Wanderers Edition - DLC Point Lookout.esp
FO3 Wanderers Edition - Project Beauty (HD Addition).esp
EVE - FWE Master Release.esp
EVE Operation Anchorage.esp
EVE Anchorage - FWE DLC Anchorage.esp
Mart's Mutant Mod - FWE Master Release.esp
XFO_Radiation_changes.esp
XFO_Weapon_Jamming.esp
XFO_rarity_ammo_mild.esp
XFO_rarity_drugs_mild.esp
Mart's Mutant Mod - XFO.esp
FPS Grenade Hotkey.esp
xCALIBR_override.esp
xCALIBRmunitions.esp
Fellout-Full.esp
GalaxyNewsRadio100[M].esp
Unique Dogmeat.esp
bltcstim.esp
Princess Better Prompts v1pt1.esp
bittercup_comp.esp
Tailor Maid.esp
Tailor Maid Anchorage.esp
Tailor Maid Brokensteel.esp
Tailor Maid PITT.esp
Tailor Maid Black Retex.esp
Phalanx-VanillaHire.1.3.esp
Phalanx-Obedient-Dogmeat.esp
FollowersRelax.esp
The Groovatron.esp
M1911.esp
LR300_Arpeggiator.esp
ZL-SVD.esp
Black Hood.esp
VaultNo5EV_GNR.esp
PortableMattress.esp
mazas_campfire.esp
nightvisiongogglesft.esp
Backpacks - SedPL.esp
Camo Uniforms Remix.esp
3EFwandererGear.esp
Mysteriouswoman_outfitonly.esp
Binoculars and Scopes.esp
UsableCigarettes.esp
Mart's Mutant Mod.esp
Mart's Mutant Mod - Reduced Wasteland Spawns.esp
Mart's Mutant Mod - Increased Spawns.esp
Mart's Mutant Mod - Feral Ghoul Rampage.esp
Mart's Mutant Mod - Hunting & Looting.esp
Mart's Mutant Mod - Tougher Traders.esp
Mart's Mutant Mod - Natural Selection.esp
Mart's Mutant Mod - Zones Respawn.esp
Mart's Mutant Mod - DLC Anchorage.esp
Mart's Mutant Mod - DLC The Pitt.esp
Mart's Mutant Mod - DLC Broken Steel.esp
Mart's Mutant Mod - DLC Point Lookout.esp
Mart's Mutant Mod - FWE with EVE.esp
Mart's Mutant Mod - Project Beauty (HD Addition).esp
Mart's Mutant Mod - Project Beauty + FWE.esp
DarNifiedUIF3.esp
DUIF3Extras.esp

Total active plugins: 85
Total plugins: 85

anynody have any idea? i'm running the plugins from FOIP so i had hoped that would help, but to no avail =[

any help would be greatly appreciated =]


1 thing I know is that the new DARN doesnt need the Extras esp.
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Mandy Muir
 
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Post » Sat May 28, 2011 10:24 am

Hm. First thing to do would be to make sure you have the latest versions of everything, and install them as instructed (according to webpages, readmes, etc.)

Also, have a look http://www.fallout3nexus.com/downloads/file.php?id=2761; scroll down to "Load Order" - it's a good guide for most overhauls and stuff working together.
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Jesus Sanchez
 
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Post » Sat May 28, 2011 3:38 pm

Hm. First thing to do would be to make sure you have the latest versions of everything, and install them as instructed (according to webpages, readmes, etc.)


I'm 100% sure i've got everything up to date, so i don't think it could be that.

anybody else got any ideas?
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Adam
 
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Post » Sat May 28, 2011 11:37 am

I am no load order expert, but here are some suggestions:

Move your BrokenSteel.esm after the ThePitt.esm.
Move Mart's Mutant Mod.esm after the FO3 Wanderers Edition - Main File.esm
Move EVE.esp after all the FO3 Wanderers Edition files
Move all the files related to EVE after the EVE.esp file.
Move Mart's Mutant Mod - FWE Master Release.esp to the Mart's Mutant Mod files, right after the Mart's Mutant Mod DLC files

Remove:
Mart's Mutant Mod - Reduced Wasteland Spawns.esp
Mart's Mutant Mod - Increased Spawns.esp
Mart's Mutant Mod - Feral Ghoul Rampage.esp
Mart's Mutant Mod - Hunting & Looting.esp
Mart's Mutant Mod - Tougher Traders.esp
Mart's Mutant Mod - Natural Selection.esp
Mart's Mutant Mod - Zones Respawn.esp
cause you can select these options in the FWE options in the game.

Reorder all the DLC patches so that they match the order of them main DLC orders

Once you have those done, post a new load order and we will see if we can help you further :)
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Enny Labinjo
 
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Post » Sat May 28, 2011 8:12 am

Try this:
Fallout3.esmAnchorage.esmThePitt.esmBrokenSteel.esmPointLookout.esmZeta.esmUnofficial Fallout 3 Patch.esmHairPack.esmProject Beauty HD version.esmCRAFT.esmCALIBR.esmxCALIBR.esmFO3 Wanderers Edition - Main File.esmMart's Mutant Mod.esmUnofficial Fallout 3 Patch - Operation Anchorage.espUnofficial Fallout 3 Patch - The Pitt.espUnofficial Fallout 3 Patch - Broken Steel.espUnofficial Fallout 3 Patch - Point Lookout.espUnofficial Fallout 3 Patch - Mothership Zeta.espDarNifiedUIF3.espGalaxyNewsRadio100[M].espThe Groovatron.espM1911.espLR300_Arpeggiator.espZL-SVD.espBlack Hood.espVaultNo5EV_GNR.espmazas_campfire.espnightvisiongogglesft.espBackpacks - SedPL.espCamo Uniforms Remix.esp3EFwandererGear.espMysteriouswoman_outfitonly.espBinoculars and Scopes.espPrincess Better Prompts v1pt1.espUnique Dogmeat.espTailor Maid.espTailor Maid Black Retex.espTailor Maid Anchorage.espTailor Maid PITT.espTailor Maid Brokensteel.espFO3 Wanderers Edition - Main File.espFO3 Wanderers Edition - DLC Anchorage.espFO3 Wanderers Edition - DLC The Pitt.espFO3 Wanderers Edition - DLC Broken Steel.espFO3 Wanderers Edition - DLC Point Lookout.espFO3 Wanderers Edition - DLC Mothership Zeta.espFO3 Wanderers Edition - Project Beauty (HD Addition).espEVE.espEVE Operation Anchorage.espEVE - FWE Master Release.espEVE Anchorage - FWE DLC Anchorage.espMart's Mutant Mod.espMart's Mutant Mod - DLC Anchorage.espMart's Mutant Mod - DLC The Pitt.espMart's Mutant Mod - DLC Broken Steel.espMart's Mutant Mod - DLC Point Lookout.espMart's Mutant Mod - FWE Master Release.espMart's Mutant Mod - FWE with EVE.espMart's Mutant Mod - Project Beauty (HD Addition).espMart's Mutant Mod - Project Beauty + FWE.espxCALIBR_override.espxCALIBRmunitions.espPhalanx-VanillaHire.1.3.espPhalanx-Obedient-Dogmeat.espFollowersRelax.espbittercup_comp.espFellout-Full.esp<------Merged patch misssing here


The following mods should be removed because they're not needed or integrated in FWE
XFO_Radiation_changes.espXFO_Weapon_Jamming.espXFO_rarity_ammo_mild.espXFO_rarity_drugs_mild.espMart's Mutant Mod - XFO.espFPS Grenade Hotkey.espMart's Mutant Mod - Reduced Wasteland Spawns.espMart's Mutant Mod - Increased Spawns.espMart's Mutant Mod - Feral Ghoul Rampage.espMart's Mutant Mod - Hunting & Looting.espMart's Mutant Mod - Tougher Traders.espMart's Mutant Mod - Natural Selection.espMart's Mutant Mod - Zones Respawn.espDUIF3Extras.espUsableCigarettes.espPortableMattress.espbltcstim.esp

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Vicky Keeler
 
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Post » Sat May 28, 2011 6:58 am

I'm 100% sure i've got everything up to date, so i don't think it could be that.

anybody else got any ideas?


The latest version of DarN UI no longer uses "DUIF3Extras.esp". Also, his .esp's need to be much earlier in the load order, or at least earlier than "FPS Grenade Hotkey.esp".
From http://www.gamesas.com/index.php?/topic/1085562-wipzbeta-darnified-ui-f3/ ...
NOTE: The hotfix is a patch - you need a11 to be installed first. Users upgrading from a10 should delete DUIF3Extras.esp. Only DarNifiedUIF3.esp is used from now on.


Also, something not mentioned in his readme, but "Mart's Mutant Mod - Tougher Traders.esp" needs to be loaded after "Mart's Mutant Mod - Natural Selection.esp". The natural selection optional file overwrites a faction entry in tougher traders.

You should check for conflicts between the Tailor Maid files and "Backpacks - SedPL.esp" or "3EFwandererGear.esp" as I think they do similiar things.
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