Bosmer Love! <3

Post » Sat Apr 02, 2011 12:17 pm

My favorite female bosmer is also Methredhel, she is a pretty good character. The only male bosmer that I can think of right now that I can actually tolerate is Glarthir but there may be others that I just cant remember.

For me the 2 most annoying ones are Maenlorn and Caenlorn because every time you talk to them they quiz you on which one they are. :facepalm: lol
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Allison Sizemore
 
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Post » Sat Apr 02, 2011 9:15 am

I love my Bosmer skin rug does that count? Although I don't particularly like wood elves in any game/story ect I do intend to make one soon as they are the only race I have not played as in Ob I got a mod that changes them, it's either cobl races or an ooo thing I forget but they have some cool ability added from that (making bone arrows), which seems to make them worthwhile playing.
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Post » Sat Apr 02, 2011 4:28 pm

I just noticed on the Wiki last night that they are ritualistic cannibals . . WHAT!?

THAT doesn't seem to fit with the rest of how they are portrayed in TES IV. Was this a hangover concept from Morrowind that now just doesn't fit with how they were portrayed in TES IV?
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Post » Sat Apr 02, 2011 10:57 pm

Their religion demands that dead Bosmer should be eaten by their family. It also demands that Bosmer should eat the enemies they kill.
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Post » Sat Apr 02, 2011 9:30 am

Their religion demands that dead Bosmer should be eaten by their family. It also demands that Bosmer should eat the enemies they kill.

I've somehow gotten the idea that this is only when they're in Valenwood, so elsewhere their religion doesn't demand it...? I could be totally wrong about this, though.
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Post » Sat Apr 02, 2011 3:12 pm

I've somehow gotten the idea that this is only when they're in Valenwood, so elsewhere their religion doesn't demand it...? I could be totally wrong about this, though.


If I recall correctly, it IS mainly when they're in Valenwood.
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Post » Sat Apr 02, 2011 8:40 pm

I had to look it up in the Imperial Library to make sure, but...

They [the Bosmer] are exclusively and religiously carnivorous. They cannot, or will not, eat anything that is plant-based. They eat game, beastfolk, each other, or meats imported from other regions. This part of the Green Pact is known as the Meat Mandate, and, among its other rules, it requires that a fallen enemy must be eaten completely before three days pass. The family members of the warrior that slew the enemy may help him with his meal. Needless to say, the Wood Elves do not like to engage in large battles if they have not undergone a suitable starvation period.

Though they are excellent archers, the Green Pact forces their bowyers and fletchers to use bone or similar materials, or to buy bows and arrows from other cultures. The use of woodcrafts created by another race is not forbidden, nor is the sale of their own Valenwood timber as long as it is collected by a non-Bosmeri.

- The Aldmeri Dominion

So the ritual cannibalism is part of the Green Pact, as expected, which I'm 99% sure is only valid in Valenwood. I'm not an expert on Bosmeri lore, but I think this is how it goes. So rest assured, I don't think Thoronir and Glathir are going to team up and try to eat you. :)
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Post » Sat Apr 02, 2011 3:04 pm

Well...you all svcked me in....I'm feeling the Bosmer Love. I just created a new Bosmer character to RP. It is a little weird starting back at base stats again, not to mention being so short and weak. The RP aspect is way different because I am used to being able to kick butt in battle. Tactics (which now include running away...LOL) and strategies have changed, as have the goals and objectives due to stepping into a different role. Thanks for the "shove towards the love". :D
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Post » Sat Apr 02, 2011 12:25 pm

So, if we were to anologize where in the real world Bosmers were common, would it be northern California?

Imperials = Chicago?
Argonians = remote swampy regions of southeast Asia?
Redguards = obviously, north Africa and perhaps also some of East Africa
Nords = Norway
Bretons = rather than say "France" I'm gonna go with Brettony! :celebration:
Khajiti = savanah grasslands of Africa??
Dunmer = Australia
Altmer = England


You know that Imperials are (were) based on the Romans, right? RIGHT?

My list looks like this:

Bosmer:
Imperials: Italians/Romans
Argonians: The Rainforests in Brazil and South-East Asia
Redguards: Whole Africa
Nords: Scandinavia
Bretons: Gaul (Ancient France conquered by Caesar)
Khajiiitti: Savanna (Lions. Nuff said)
Dunmer: I can't think about one. Almsivi is based on the Catholic church, but some also live like nomads. I can't find a metaphor for the Dunmer.
Altmer: China, a lot of inventions were first invented by the Chinese and later brought to Europe. As most of Empire culture is based on High-Elven traditions, even the language, I find my choice justified.

Back on topic: I find Bosmer very interesting. After I've downloaded Oscuro Oblivion Overhaul and found the ancient artifact in a fort in eastern Cyrodil and discovered the rest, I looked up Jephre and read all chapters of A Dance in Fire. Their canabalistic nature fascinates me, and to think that battles were like a family banquet for the Bosmer. The Wild hunt is also interesting. Just think about it in TES VI, VII or maybe VIII. But the male Bosmer still annoy me with their voice. Everytime I see one, I want to bash them in their face. The females are pretty, though. I can't figure why a guard would prefer a horse above a Bosmer female.
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Post » Sat Apr 02, 2011 6:27 pm

... The females are pretty, though. I can't figure why a guard would prefer a horse above a Bosmer female.


Thank you! :happy:

Perhaps the guard who would prefer to sleep with his horse ran into one of Buffy's big sisters. They can be cranky till you get to know them: http://i668.photobucket.com/albums/vv43/Acadian6/ScreenShot726.jpg

Although somewhat of a wild creature of the forest, Buffy does actually clean up pretty well:

http://i668.photobucket.com/albums/vv43/Acadian6/ScreenShot553.jpg

http://i668.photobucket.com/albums/vv43/Acadian6/Cho%20Bk%201/ScreenShot746.jpg

http://i668.photobucket.com/albums/vv43/Acadian6/ScreenShot753.jpg
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Post » Sat Apr 02, 2011 1:54 pm

umm... how does one cook meat in Valenwood without using plants as a fuel....do they have a lot of dung around there or something?
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Post » Sat Apr 02, 2011 9:09 pm

umm... how does one cook meat in Valenwood without using plants as a fuel....do they have a lot of dung around there or something?

They either eat it raw, or use Destruction Magic to cook it.
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Post » Sat Apr 02, 2011 9:00 pm

Bosmers are my favourite race to play, since most of my characters are sneaky archer-thieves, Bosmer is the best race to pick.
I just dislike how short they are; in real life I'm about 170 centimeters (about 5 feet and 7 inches) tall, and I'm thirteen.

Also, the females are more attractive than any other race (well, except Bretons maybe). Being a Bosmer also gives me an excuse to live free and hardly ever do any quests. Unfortunately, most of the
wood-elves look like flamboyant midgets so I have to spend a few minutes getting them into shape with the character creator.

Anyway, I do not understand why most people hate them so much, and I am not amused by the racism against our poor Bosmer.
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Post » Sat Apr 02, 2011 7:07 pm

Bosmers are my favourite race to play, since most of my characters are sneaky archer-thieves, Bosmer is the best race to pick.
I just dislike how short they are; in real life I'm about 170 centimeters (about 5 feet and 7 inches) tall, and I'm thirteen.

Also, the females are more attractive than any other race (well, except Bretons maybe). Being a Bosmer also gives me an excuse to live free and hardly ever do any quests. Unfortunately, most of the
wood-elves look like flamboyant midgets so I have to spend a few minutes getting them into shape with the character creator.

Anyway, I do not understand why most people hate them so much, and I am not amused by the racism against our poor Bosmer.



TES lacks gnomes, dwarves, and other short races so the shortest race, Bosmer, take the brunt of it.
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Post » Sat Apr 02, 2011 12:51 pm

Yay, this forum needs a Bosmer-loving topic!

My first character ever was a Bosmer (a Nightblade, lol) and I've always liked them the most. I started a new character while waiting for ES V, and the Bosmer was the natural choice. :) I mainly play as archers or assassins, but my first one was lethal with a two-handed katana. Good timez. With a Z.

Keep this thread alive, Bosmers are adorable!
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Post » Sat Apr 02, 2011 8:00 am

You know that Imperials are (were) based on the Romans, right? RIGHT?

My list looks like this:

Bosmer:
Imperials: Italians/Romans
Argonians: The Rainforests in Brazil and South-East Asia
Redguards: Whole Africa
Nords: Scandinavia
Bretons: Gaul (Ancient France conquered by Caesar)
Khajiiitti: Savanna (Lions. Nuff said)
Dunmer: I can't think about one. Almsivi is based on the Catholic church, but some also live like nomads. I can't find a metaphor for the Dunmer.
Altmer: China, a lot of inventions were first invented by the Chinese and later brought to Europe. As most of Empire culture is based on High-Elven traditions, even the language, I find my choice justified.

Back on topic: I find Bosmer very interesting. After I've downloaded Oscuro Oblivion Overhaul and found the ancient artifact in a fort in eastern Cyrodil and discovered the rest, I looked up Jephre and read all chapters of A Dance in Fire. Their canabalistic nature fascinates me, and to think that battles were like a family banquet for the Bosmer. The Wild hunt is also interesting. Just think about it in TES VI, VII or maybe VIII. But the male Bosmer still annoy me with their voice. Everytime I see one, I want to bash them in their face. The females are pretty, though. I can't figure why a guard would prefer a horse above a Bosmer female.


Yeah, that's probably a better metaphor list, particularl China for Altmer. Yeah, I realized the the Imperials were inspired by Imperial Rome :wink_smile: Which is why I said "Chicago."

I'm honestly having a hard time processing this ritual cannibalism thing. It certainly is not without precedent in the anthropological literature, though it seems that the actual evidence of it is very, VERY scant. Ah well, I can just pretend that that is not part of the lore, right?

To me, Bosmer seem like they would be primarily vegetarian! You know, nuts, flakes, and bran, "ohhh, double rainbow all the way . . ."

Now Orcs. Orcs I could definitely see eating their enemies, dead or not.
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Post » Sat Apr 02, 2011 6:37 pm

I'm honestly having a hard time processing this ritual cannibalism thing. It certainly is not without precedent in the anthropological literature, though it seems that the actual evidence of it is very, VERY scant. Ah well, I can just pretend that that is not part of the lore, right?

I do too. Because IRL there are two distinct types of cannibals. External- who only eat people who are outside of their community, and Internal- who only eat from their community. The first is an act of aggression, a means of utterly conquering their opponents. The second is exactly the opposite. It is a deeply spiritual celebration, where the spirit deceased passes into their relatives, to live on through them. Essentially a form of ancestor worship. Yet Bethesda portrays the Bosmer as being both, which does not happen irl. It is one of many reasons why I have gotten used to ignoring much of Bethesda's lore.

To me, Bosmer seem like they would be primarily vegetarian! You know, nuts, flakes, and bran, "ohhh, double rainbow all the way . . ."


Now that is my Teresa to a tee! The only meat she will eat is fish and crabs. But no mammals, or other primarily land animals. To her, animals are people, just as much as humans and elves are.

"Oh no, I don't eat meat." Teresa shook her head. "You go ahead until my fish comes. I grew up on the streets, you don't have to impress me!"

"Really? you do not eat meat?" Ancondil asked with a lifted eyebrow. Teresa noted that he still made no motion to continue his meal. "When I saw you earlier at the Fighters Guild I had thought you were a huntress, come straight from the wilds of the Great Forest itself."

"I had," Teresa said, looking down at her hands. The last thing she wanted was for him to remember how she had stormed out of the Fighters Guild. She hoped she was not blushing when she forced her gaze back up to his. "But I am a gatherer, not a hunter."

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Post » Sat Apr 02, 2011 5:06 pm

The nice thing about imagination and a single player game is that you are free to use lore, expand upon it or disregard aspects of it to suit your purpose. Although I generally like the richness and detail of TES lore, I am not impressed with the lore Bethesda provided as it relates to the Bosmer. I therefore freely ignore some of it.

In Buffy's Tamriel, she is a fairly typical wood elf. Her Bosmeri archery master encouraged her to eat the heart of the first deer she killed to initiate her as a successful hunter - which she proudly did. She was taught to have great respect for the sprits of the animals that sustain her. She kills prey animals when she needs to eat, and would not dishonor their spirit by wasting or not fully utilizing them. That is why she tends to wear buckskin greaves and boots, and shares her kills.

Much later in her life, she would eat the heart of the first Dremora she killed - she kind of got caught up in the moment. She understands perfectly well that some of her kin may sometimes ceremoniously eat the heart of a vanquished foe. It's a ceremonial ritual, not exactly dinner. Big deal.

She is an omnivore. Her diet includes venison, boar, crab, slaughterfish, graqes, strawberries, Tamika's wine, bread, cheese and a long list of other yummy stuff. Oh, and sweet rolls.

She uses the bounty of the forest wisely, but as she needs to and without restriction. There is no 'Green Pact' in her Tamriel - not in Cyrodiil, not in Valenwood. I'm quite certain if the subject ever came up, she would dismiss the concept as absurdly hypocritical and just downright silly. Indeed, of all the rich possibilities relating to a spiritual life in the forest, I consider the Green Pact an Epic Failure of a concept and would not expose my wood elf to it.

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