Annoying issue : III

» Thu May 12, 2011 6:22 pm

Hello,

I've recently ran intro troubles with my Morrowind install - sometimes when I'm in interiors, at some spots game starts to lag as hell, this happends often when in Merchant screen or when picking something up from containers - but sometimes also when looking at certain spots. It looks like the issue is getting more pronounced, becouse after finishing MQ and Tribunal, when moved on to Bloodmoon, this lags are getting more often and the game can't be played with lags like these, kicking in. I've tried disabling distant land, disabled the shaders, non of this have worked.

Also, I have an issue with Vurt's Solstheim Trees and Bushes - after generating distant land, I don't see the grass - trees appeared normally, and I think there's a missing texture for some bush with ingredients (I don't know how it's called in English version of the game, but I can check).

I'm using lastest MGE svn scatter cloud, latest beta MCP and 4 GB patch . Exe optimizer sadly seems to not work with non-english exes of the game.

Here's my mod list:

Spoiler

GameFile0=Beryl's_Head_Replacer_v1.0.esm
GameFile1=Bloodmoon Landscape Overhaul 1.0.esm
GameFile2=Bloodmoon.esm
GameFile3=Morrowind Advanced.esm
GameFile4=Morrowind.esm
GameFile5=Texture Fix 1.8.esm
GameFile6=Tribunal.esm
GameFile7=100ProjectileStoreChance.esp
GameFile8=All New Faces Compilation.esp
GameFile9=Animal Behaviour.esp
GameFile10=Animated Morrowind 1.0.esp
GameFile11=Better Bodies.esp
GameFile12=Better Clothes_v1.1.esp
GameFile13=BlackHope_Camping.esp
GameFile14=CE-DepthPerception75+BTB's Character.ESP
GameFile15=Clean Welcome to the Arena!.esp
GameFile16=CM_Partners_3.10_Rav.esp
GameFile17=correctUV Ore Replacer 1.0.esp
GameFile18=DM_DB Armor Replacer-Exp.esp
GameFile19=DN_AshVampires.esp
GameFile20=EcoAdj(Sri+Ingredients).esp
GameFile21=EcoAdjDaedricDrops.esp
GameFile22=EcoAdjMisc.esp
GameFile23=Herbalism.esp
GameFile24=horationpcenhanced12-bm.esp
GameFile25=IceNioLivRobeReplacerALL.esp
GameFile26=Improved Lockpicking.esp
GameFile27=Improved Open Spell Balance-LD.esp
GameFile28=Improved Trap Settings (Tribunal).esp
GameFile29=Key Replacer Trib & BM.esp
GameFile30=k_weather (louder sounds).esp
GameFile31=Mashed Lists.esp
GameFile32=MDP Compilation.ESP
GameFile33=mel_teleportPlugin_1_3.esp
GameFile34=Merged_Objects.esp
GameFile35=Mf_torch_toggle.esp
GameFile36=MW_Adv_Required.esp
GameFile37=NEDE v1.2.esp
GameFile38=New Argonian Bodies - Clean.esp
GameFile39=New Khajiit Bodies - Clean.esp
GameFile40=npce_mwse_patchc.esp
GameFile41=NPCSchedules.esp
GameFile42=NPCSchedulesLocks.esp
GameFile43=Particle Arrow Replacer.esp
GameFile44=Protective Guards.esp
GameFile45=Ranger Tent.esp
GameFile46=Spect Sorcery pt 1.esp
GameFile47=Sri Alchemy BM List Patch.esp
GameFile48=Stealth Enhancements-LD 1.5b (Tribunal).esp
GameFile49=Survival.esp
GameFile50=Syc_AtHomeAlchemy.esp
GameFile51=Texture Fix 1.8.esp
GameFile52=TLM - Ambient Light + Fog Update.esp
GameFile53=TLM - External Lights Ownership.esp
GameFile54=TLM - Light Sources (Clearer Lighting).esp
GameFile55=TLM - Light Sources (Lanterns).esp
GameFile56=TLM - NPC Light Sources.esp
GameFile57=True Gems V1.1.esp
GameFile58=Vurt's Ashlands Overhaul.esp
GameFile59=Vurt's Grazelands Trees.ESP
GameFile60=Vurt's Solstheim Trees & Bushes Replacer.ESP
GameFile61=werewolfrealism-moononly.esp
GameFile62=Werewolf_Evolution.esp
GameFile63=Windows Glow.esp
GameFile64=XACC.esp

Shader's I'm using:
DX9 HLSL HDR 6
sunshaft_v003cloud
knx_SSAO_v09
COlorTemp
enbcolorfade
UnderwaterWobble

SSAO has been set to 16 and SM 3.0.

And my specs are:
C2D @ 3.3 Ghz
2 GB DDR3
Radeon HD4870

Thanks in advance for any help provided

» Thu May 12, 2011 6:12 pm

As for the Vurt's question, sorry for misleading, I just thought that grass comes in this mod, but it needs to be installed separately - from Vurt's Solstheim groundcover

I'm still trying to pinpoint what causing this, I really appreciate any help with this, becouse it renders my game unplayable.

» Thu May 12, 2011 11:11 pm

Have you disabled Distant Land in Interiors? This was the issue for my huge fps drop in interiors. Dunno why.

» Fri May 13, 2011 12:31 am

Have you disabled Distant Land in Interiors? This was the issue for my huge fps drop in interiors. Dunno why.

This has solved the issues I've been having with interior slowdowns but for some strange reason *all* distant landscapes and MGE's grass rendering gets broken, they all appear solid black.

» Thu May 12, 2011 9:39 pm

Have you disabled Distant Land in Interiors? This was the issue for my huge fps drop in interiors. Dunno why.

Just tried that, the slowdowns firstly seemed to dissapear, but as a side effect of enabling this option it that when I enter any interior from exterior, the outlines of last image stays on the screen (propably of a SSAO shader - note I've ticked "disable in exteriors" in this shader). So now I don't know if later slowdowns are the "standard" slowdowns that I'm fighting or effect of this image outlines staying in the screen.

» Thu May 12, 2011 10:23 pm

Sorry, I can be of no bigger assistance.

» Fri May 13, 2011 2:16 am

Just tried that, the slowdowns firstly seemed to dissapear, but as a side effect of enabling this option it that when I enter any interior from exterior, the outlines of last image stays on the screen (propably of a SSAO shader - note I've ticked "disable in exteriors" in this shader). So now I don't know if later slowdowns are the "standard" slowdowns that I'm fighting or effect of this image outlines staying in the screen.

i get the SSAO transposed on my loading screens, too, but i dont have any mysterious slowdowns.

you've got a few more things installed than i do though.the fact that you get it even in merchant screens has me thinking it's someone's unoptimized scripts.

you're using morrowind advanced? isnt that buggy and unstable, or am i thinking of something else?

» Fri May 13, 2011 12:22 am

@RAKninja

Yes, I'm using Morrowind Advanced - it adds needed content to higher level characters, and sticks to the lore (I'm a lore freak ;P ) . I'm using it in all my MW installations and it never caused any troubles for me.

As for the problem, apparently, I've got it fixed - 2 hours of unticking every plugin and checking the behavior of the game - it's seems that plugin "Vurt's Solstheim Trees and Bushes" caused this lockups for me - I totally don't know why, becouse it does nothing to interiors. The game runs perfectly fine without this plugin. But the trees adds much more atmosphere to the Solstheim, so I must rename the files from this plugin as the readme says - it would be nice that Vurt could add a plugin less replacer with this

Hope this thread would be helpfull for people that run into the same troubles. Thanks for help!