11 ways Fallout 2 was better than Fallout 3

Post » Fri May 27, 2011 12:43 pm

The ghouls, somebody has already pointed out.

The weapons: FO2 had some goofy ones in itself. The Holy Hand Grenade, Phaser, Solar Scorcher and several real-world weapons that were severely out of place due to the time period. The Desert Eagle, Pancor Jackhammer, and so on.

NPCs: Am I the only one that remembers the legion of NPCs that had around five rotating lines total that'd scroll over their head when you clicked on them? FO3 just has less of those standing around, that's all.

As far as the realism complaints, Bethesda's just going for Rule of Cool over uber-realistic. If FO3 (or 1, or 2 for that matter) were too realistic, they wouldn't have been so fun.
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Post » Fri May 27, 2011 4:05 pm

i believe that ranting or stating what you find lacking in a sequel necessary, if we didn't moan and groan about what we didn't like would the producers of anything do squat? no, they would do the same crap over again because they think we liked the last one. if anything, [censored] some more! don't blam him for saying what he thinks and calling him petty names and insulting him.
the game was good but nothing compared to F2.
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Post » Fri May 27, 2011 3:02 am

*facepalm*

You lost me completely at the Ghoul section. That was failure.
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Post » Fri May 27, 2011 5:31 am

It was better because it worked. No need for 1 terrabyte of patches and it was ready to play when it came out. Fallout 3 is still indevelopment but the company needed money so the threw a beta test copy out and want money for it.
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Post » Fri May 27, 2011 10:21 am

8. Ghouls

In Fallout 2, most ghouls were like radiated, semi-mutated ex-human being people. You could talk with them. Have them join you as team members. Ghouls were people too, in Fallout 2.

In Fallout 3, ghouls are zombies. Besides that one dude Gob, in Megatown, ghouls are stupid zombies that immediately attack you on sight.

I realize RPG's need random enemies to kill. Sure. But why did Bethesda have to make them ghouls? Why not anything else? They had the whole wasteland of creativity at their disposal. They could have made you fight anything. Like L. Ron Hubologist cultists. Or mutated raccoons.

Every time I shoot a ghoul I want to cry. I think to myself: "Damn! That ghoul could have been innocent!"

Maybe it was all a misunderstanding.


has this guy even played Fallout 3....after reading his rambling commentary it seems like he hasn't even played F1 and F2 either.
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Post » Fri May 27, 2011 10:43 am

I get a kick out of this complaint. The same people whining that fallout 3 was not as good as fallout 1 & 2, were probably whining fallout 2 was not as good as fallout 1 when 2 came out. And they were probably whining that fallout 1 had all kinds of issues when that game first came out. Bottom line, some people are just crybabies that like to whine about everything.
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Post » Fri May 27, 2011 3:26 pm

I don't think this guy gave the game a chance. The simple fact that he had thought that the only friendly ghoul was Gob tells me that he barely played the game before writing complaints. I mean, how could you possibly make that conclusion? Ill tell you how: He played the game for 10 minutes then dropped it.

Fallout 3 has less open freedom than Fallout 2? Fallout 3 has linear gameplay? Fallout 3 has immersion-free NPCs? I'm sorry, these are all clear signs that you haven't played the game. At all. Even if you hate Fallout 3, you can't deny that it has all those things. The only way you could is if you didn't play the game.
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Post » Fri May 27, 2011 5:29 am

It was better because it worked. No need for 1 terrabyte of patches and it was ready to play when it came out. Fallout 3 is still indevelopment but the company needed money so the threw a beta test copy out and want money for it.

Lol.

Never lost your car then I take it.

FO2 was a rush job with so much left out, and full of bugs... It seemed like everytime you used dynamite it wanted to crash.
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Post » Fri May 27, 2011 2:44 am

I don't think this guy gave the game a chance. The simple fact that he had thought that the only friendly ghoul was Gob tells me that he barely played the game before writing complaints. I mean, how could you possibly make that conclusion? Ill tell you how: He played the game for 10 minutes then dropped it.

Fallout 3 has less open freedom than Fallout 2? Fallout 3 has linear gameplay? Fallout 3 has immersion-free NPCs? I'm sorry, these are all clear signs that you haven't played the game. At all. Even if you hate Fallout 3, you can't deny that it has all those things. The only way you could is if you didn't play the game.

right on i love fall out 3 i've played the others before and shooting ghouls is just oen way of helping tehm they just want to die but can't so i think of it as giving them a helping hand in life by ending it for them. :gun: :flamethrower:
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Post » Fri May 27, 2011 6:46 am

If you had high intelligence and high speech, you could convince the slavers to stop trading slaves, and get them to free Vic.

You seem to have played a different Fallout 2 than I did. How did you manage that one?
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Post » Fri May 27, 2011 2:31 pm

4. Random encounters

Now this I don't understand at all. Never go wandering in the Wasteland? There's plenty of random encounters to be had in Fallout 3 - the only thing is you actually have to go out there and stumble across them instead of allowing the game to shuffle you to them. And no, not all of them have bad guys wanting to rip you to pieces. There's a guy living with two ladies in the lap of luxury on the border of the DC Ruins near Rivet City, after all. As far as I can determine, there's no quests attached to him or them...it's just there.



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This was an interesting encounter lol, on my journey to GNR radio station I bump in to this folks. There is a quest attach to one of the girls in which you can convince her to leave the guy for good and help her escort her to rivet city. I took her out of the house and ask her to wait for me and went back in the house where I waved my shotgun in his face after one of the girls told me not too, but was disappointed that he was all talk no action so I blasted him away along with the [censored]. Then me and the other [censored] went our happy way to rivet city.

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Post » Fri May 27, 2011 12:19 pm

TO MAL DUPONT

You don't know about fallout 1 and 2 because you were 8 years old at that time!
Don't worry about it kid, we all missed something......
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Post » Fri May 27, 2011 5:00 am

Hummm.....

Well, I have fallen asleep during combat in FO1 (didn't like it enough to play FO2), but not during Oblivion, so my guess is that my FO3 experience will be interesting enough to keep me awake as well.

As for realism, people die when they are shot a couple times unless they end up in hospital, so complaining about other aspects of the game being unrealistic is silly.
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Post » Fri May 27, 2011 4:44 am

I hate to say this, because it makes me sound like an oblivious Gears-head (I actually don't really think Gears is that great of a franchise, tbh), but if the original Fallout games were such a blaring success, such a pinnacle of RPG goodness, such paragons of what games should be like, why had I never even heard of them before Fallout 3? I'm not a sheltered person. I've been playing games since I was three. I'm eighteen now. I play a multitude of different genres and titles. And yet I honestly had no idea there was a Fallout series before hearing about Bethesda's title.


Yes you're a sheltered gamer. Seriously if you never knew of fallout before FO3 then you're obviously just a console player or someone who never played PC games.
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Post » Fri May 27, 2011 11:13 am

wow, i watch t.v. and use the computer everyday. i STILL havent seen a fallout 3 advertisment. at all. and agreeing with the guy you quoted, i havent heard of fallout 1 & 2 before fallout 3. heck, i thought fallout 3's name was just "fallout" and the "3" was a youtubers typo.


Maybe we are living at different places but I've seen ads on tv and the internet, hell even some mags. and i been to a couple of gamestops and blockbuster and have you seen the fallout posters and cardboard cut outs... but like i said maybe its the place,
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Post » Fri May 27, 2011 5:43 am

Spoiler
This was an interesting encounter lol, on my journey to GNR radio station I bump in to this folks. There is a quest attach to one of the girls in which you can convince her to leave the guy for good and help her escort her to rivet city. I took her out of the house and ask her to wait for me and went back in the house where I waved my shotgun in his face after one of the girls told me not too, but was disappointed that he was all talk no action so I blasted him away along with the [censored]. Then me and the other [censored] went our happy way to rivet city.



this is not a random encounter..... random encounter is finding an alien blaster or finding four people fighting for water in a fridge, this by the way did happen to me while playing falllout 3 ..... but to answer the guys questions random encounters do happen in the game
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Post » Fri May 27, 2011 7:13 am

this is not a random encounter..... random encounter is finding an alien blaster or finding four people fighting for water in a fridge, this by the way did happen to me while playing falllout 3 ..... but to answer the guys questions random encounters do happen in the game



I never said it was a "random" encounter but just a general encounter that caught my interest in respond to that particular npc mentioned on previous post. :rolleyes:
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