Imps and Ogers

Post » Fri May 13, 2011 8:24 pm

I was just wondering whats the story behind Imps and Ogers. Are they inteligent, have some form of society? Imps seem to know the basics of the school of destruction, while ogers have some what primitive clothes and what seems to be a hand made pouch of some sort. Are they smart or just mindless beasts?
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Post » Fri May 13, 2011 8:32 am

I woudn't say that they are. One of the only creatures that has some form of culture is goblins who divide themselves into clans, live in groups, have shamans and even have some makeshift weapons (i.e. Goblin Staff). The two mentioned creatures have nothing like this.

Imps and ogres may be developing sapience, but as far as I can tell, they don't have much currently. By the way, I think we can assume the reason of why Bethesda put clothing on them regardless of their intelligence...
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Post » Fri May 13, 2011 9:32 am

I was just wondering whats the story behind Imps and Ogers. Are they inteligent, have some form of society? Imps seem to know the basics of the school of destruction, while ogers have some what primitive clothes and what seems to be a hand made pouch of some sort. Are they smart or just mindless beasts?


They must have some degree of intelligence.

In Daggerfall, Imps are intelligent and have language. "Whatever their history, Imps are mischievous creatures, capable of casting minor but painful spells of pure magicka. They are certainly intelligent and speak their own language, and they are crafty enough that they know when to fight and when to flee." (Daggerfall Bestiary)

Ogres first appear in Oblivion. Ogre lore is so undeveloped as to afford not much foundation for speculation. That they are under the protection of Malacath gives credence to a conjecture that they are outcast savages rather than mere beasts. They have been known to live together in tribes, take an interest in material things, and act purposefully, but nothing they do rises to the sophistication of, say, Goblins.
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Post » Fri May 13, 2011 4:07 am

They must have some degree of intelligence.

In Daggerfall, Imps are intelligent and have language. "Whatever their history, Imps are mischievous creatures, capable of casting minor but painful spells of pure magicka. They are certainly intelligent and speak their own language, and they are crafty enough that they know when to fight and when to flee." (Daggerfall Bestiary)

Ogres first appear in Oblivion. Ogre lore is so undeveloped as to afford not much foundation for speculation. That they are under the protection of Malacath gives credence to a conjecture that they are outcast savages rather than mere beasts. They have been known to live together in tribes, take an interest in material things, and act purposefully, but nothing they do rises to the sophistication of, say, Goblins.
They did kidnap Rugdumph's daugher, and they were put to work in the mines. They might not be too bad off.
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Post » Fri May 13, 2011 2:42 pm

Makes you think if they could ever get acceptance with society, just like the orcs.
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Post » Fri May 13, 2011 5:18 am

In terms of AI, Ogres are not very smart. Very brutish.

It seems that Goblins are smarter and more civilized than Ogres.
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Post » Fri May 13, 2011 3:02 pm

Makes you think if they could ever get acceptance with society, just like the orcs.

If they did, they would be little but slaves to the more intelligent nobles who would employ them in their mines. Ogres are sentient and capable of "complex" thought, but not exactly the sharpest knives in the drawer. If anything, they're fake plastic play knives.
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Post » Fri May 13, 2011 7:55 am

Makes you think if they could ever get acceptance with society, just like the orcs.


I'm inclined to agree with posts above: they're a few rocks short of a pile.

Daggerfall Orcs, which became the civilized Orcs of Morrowind and Oblivion, are more like Oblivion Goblins (right down to the castes and armor).

Ogres are a large step down in intelligence and social organization.
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