TES4EDIT 'compare to' error : IV

» Fri May 13, 2011 2:59 pm

As Tomlong said, turn off Wrye Bash's Lock Times. Lock Times totally negates anything BOSS does each time you run Wrye Bash, so every time you run Wrye Bash, the timestamps are being reset and the mods are ending up out of order again. You should only use Lock Times if you do NOT use anything else to control load order.

Yes, i realize that. I do turn off lock times every time i run boss, what i meant was just that i have it on when im not boss'ing the load order (ruling out the possibility that it's 'resetting' somehow).

And I think the problem may run much deeper than load order as well. It may have to do with the fact that this is a Chinese windows XP (although there's no problem with English and whatnot, that just means all the error messages are in Chinese), and another theory i have is that it may have to do with the Chinese date format (yyyy-mm-dd). Will test that in a moment.

For reference, ill include the entire log that tes4edit is giving me:

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Using Oblivion Data Path: F:\PROGRA~1\BETHES~1\OBLIVION\Data\Using ini: d:\My Documents\My Games\Oblivion\Oblivion.iniUsing settings file: C:\Documents and Settings\Administrator\Local Settings\Application Data\Oblivion\Plugins.tes4viewsettingsLoading active plugin list: C:\Documents and Settings\Administrator\Local Settings\Application Data\Oblivion\Plugins.txtIgnoring ModGroup Kvatch Rebuilt and OOO+MMM: less then 2 plugins activeIgnoring ModGroup Kvatch Rebuilt and OOO: less then 2 plugins activeIgnoring ModGroup Kvatch Rebuilt: less then 2 plugins activeIgnoring ModGroup Knights of the Nine and UL: Ancient Redwoods: less then 2 plugins activeIgnoring ModGroup SM Spell Leveller: less then 2 plugins activeIgnoring ModGroup UL: Chorrol Hinterland and UL: River Ethe: less then 2 plugins activeIgnoring ModGroup UL: Chorrol Hinterland and UL: Lush Woodlands: less then 2 plugins activeIgnoring ModGroup Supreme Magicka and FCOM: less then 2 plugins activeIgnoring ModGroup Supreme Magicka: less then 2 plugins activeIgnoring ModGroup UL: Lost Coast, Better Cities and Compatibility Patch: less then 2 plugins activeIgnoring ModGroup UL: Chorrol Hinterland, Better Cities and Compatibility Patch: less then 2 plugins activeIgnoring ModGroup Better Cities: less then 2 plugins activeIgnoring ModGroup Official Plugin - Battlehorn Castle: less then 2 plugins activeIgnoring ModGroup Official Plugin - Knights of the Nine: less then 2 plugins activeIgnoring ModGroup Official Plugin - Orrery: less then 2 plugins activeIgnoring ModGroup Official Plugin - Mehrunes Razor: less then 2 plugins activeIgnoring ModGroup Official Plugin - Thieves Den: less then 2 plugins activeIgnoring ModGroup Official Plugin - Vile Lair: less then 2 plugins activeIgnoring ModGroup Official Plugin - Frostcrag: less then 2 plugins activeIgnoring ModGroup Official Plugin - Spell Tomes: less then 2 plugins activeIgnoring ModGroup Official Plugin - Horse Armor: less then 2 plugins activeIgnoring ModGroup FCOM: less then 2 plugins activeIgnoring ModGroup Tamriel Travellers: less then 2 plugins activeIgnoring ModGroup IWRRetrofitted: less then 2 plugins activeIgnoring ModGroup AWS: less then 2 plugins activeIgnoring ModGroup Oscuro's Oblivion Overhaul: less then 2 plugins activeIgnoring ModGroup Francesco's Leveled Creatures-Items Mod: less then 2 plugins activeIgnoring ModGroup COBL: less then 2 plugins activeIgnoring ModGroup Tamrielic Ingredients: less then 2 plugins activeIgnoring ModGroup Unofficial Patches: less then 2 plugins active[Oblivion.esm] Loading file[Oblivion.esm] File loaded[Oblivion.esm] Start processing[Knights.esp] Loading file[Knights.esp] File loaded[Knights.esp] Start processing[51:43] Background Loader: starting...[00:00] Background Loader: loading "Oblivion.esm"...[00:00] Background Loader: [Oblivion.esm] Loading file[00:00] Background Loader: [Oblivion.esm] File loaded[00:00] Background Loader: [Oblivion.esm] Start processing[00:00] Background Loader: [Oblivion.esm] Header processed. Expecting 1252095 records[00:00] Background Loader: [Oblivion.esm] GRUP Top "GMST" processed[00:00] Background Loader: [Oblivion.esm] GRUP Top "GLOB" processed[00:00] Background Loader: [Oblivion.esm] GRUP Top "CLAS" processed[00:00] Background Loader: [Oblivion.esm] GRUP Top "FACT" processed[00:00] Background Loader: [Oblivion.esm] GRUP Top "HAIR" processed[00:00] Background Loader: [Oblivion.esm] GRUP Top "EYES" processed[00:00] Background Loader: [Oblivion.esm] GRUP Top "RACE" processed[00:00] Background Loader: [Oblivion.esm] GRUP Top "SOUN" processed[00:00] Background Loader: [Oblivion.esm] GRUP Top "SKIL" processed[00:00] Background Loader: [Oblivion.esm] GRUP Top "MGEF" processed[00:00] Background Loader: [Oblivion.esm] GRUP Top "SCPT" processed[00:00] Background Loader: [Oblivion.esm] GRUP Top "LTEX" processed[00:00] Background Loader: [Oblivion.esm] GRUP Top "ENCH" processed[00:00] Background Loader: [Oblivion.esm] GRUP Top "SPEL" processed[00:00] Background Loader: [Oblivion.esm] GRUP Top "BSGN" processed[00:00] Background Loader: [Oblivion.esm] GRUP Top "ACTI" processed[00:00] Background Loader: [Oblivion.esm] GRUP Top "APPA" processed[00:00] Background Loader: [Oblivion.esm] GRUP Top "ARMO" processed[00:00] Background Loader: [Oblivion.esm] GRUP Top "BOOK" processed[00:00] Background Loader: [Oblivion.esm] GRUP Top "CLOT" processed[00:00] Background Loader: [Oblivion.esm] GRUP Top "CONT" processed[00:00] Background Loader: [Oblivion.esm] GRUP Top "DOOR" processed[00:00] Background Loader: [Oblivion.esm] GRUP Top "INGR" processed[00:00] Background Loader: [Oblivion.esm] GRUP Top "LIGH" processed[00:00] Background Loader: [Oblivion.esm] GRUP Top "MISC" processed[00:00] Background Loader: [Oblivion.esm] GRUP Top "STAT" processed[00:00] Background Loader: [Oblivion.esm] GRUP Top "GRAS" processed[00:00] Background Loader: [Oblivion.esm] GRUP Top "TREE" processed[00:00] Background Loader: [Oblivion.esm] GRUP Top "FLOR" processed[00:00] Background Loader: [Oblivion.esm] GRUP Top "FURN" processed[00:00] Background Loader: [Oblivion.esm] GRUP Top "WEAP" processed[00:00] Background Loader: [Oblivion.esm] GRUP Top "AMMO" processed[00:00] Background Loader: [Oblivion.esm] GRUP Top "NPC_" processed[00:00] Background Loader: [Oblivion.esm] GRUP Top "CREA" processed[00:00] Background Loader: [Oblivion.esm] GRUP Top "LVLC" processed[00:00] Background Loader: [Oblivion.esm] GRUP Top "SLGM" processed[00:00] Background Loader: [Oblivion.esm] GRUP Top "KEYM" processed[00:00] Background Loader: [Oblivion.esm] GRUP Top "ALCH" processed[00:00] Background Loader: [Oblivion.esm] GRUP Top "SBSP" processed[00:00] Background Loader: [Oblivion.esm] GRUP Top "SGST" processed[00:00] Background Loader: [Oblivion.esm] GRUP Top "LVLI" processed[00:00] Background Loader: [Oblivion.esm] GRUP Top "WTHR" processed[00:00] Background Loader: [Oblivion.esm] GRUP Top "CLMT" processed[00:00] Background Loader: [Oblivion.esm] GRUP Top "REGN" processed[00:02] Background Loader: [Oblivion.esm] GRUP Top "CELL" processed[00:08] Background Loader: [Oblivion.esm] GRUP Top "WRLD" processed[00:08] Background Loader: [Oblivion.esm] GRUP Top "DIAL" processed[00:08] Background Loader: [Oblivion.esm] GRUP Top "QUST" processed[00:08] Background Loader: [Oblivion.esm] GRUP Top "IDLE" processed[00:08] Background Loader: [Oblivion.esm] GRUP Top "PACK" processed[00:08] Background Loader: [Oblivion.esm] GRUP Top "CSTY" processed[00:08] Background Loader: [Oblivion.esm] GRUP Top "LSCR" processed[00:08] Background Loader: [Oblivion.esm] GRUP Top "LVSP" processed[00:08] Background Loader: [Oblivion.esm] GRUP Top "ANIO" processed[00:08] Background Loader: [Oblivion.esm] GRUP Top "WATR" processed[00:08] Background Loader: [Oblivion.esm] GRUP Top "EFSH" processed[00:08] Background Loader: [Oblivion.esm] Building FormID index[00:12] Background Loader: [Oblivion.esm] FormID index built[00:12] Background Loader: [Oblivion.esm] Building EditorID index[00:12] Background Loader: [Oblivion.esm] EditorID index built[00:12] Background Loader: [Oblivion.esm] Processing completed[00:12] Background Loader: loading "Knights.esp"...[00:12] Background Loader: [Knights.esp] Loading file[00:12] Background Loader: [Knights.esp] File loaded[00:12] Background Loader: [Knights.esp] Start processing[00:12] Background Loader: [Knights.esp] Adding master "Oblivion.esm"[00:12] Background Loader: [Knights.esp] Header processed. Expecting 15755 records[00:12] Background Loader: [Knights.esp] GRUP Top "GLOB" processed[00:12] Background Loader: [Knights.esp] GRUP Top "CLAS" processed[00:12] Background Loader: [Knights.esp] GRUP Top "FACT" processed[00:12] Background Loader: [Knights.esp] GRUP Top "HAIR" processed[00:12] Background Loader: [Knights.esp] GRUP Top "RACE" processed[00:12] Background Loader: [Knights.esp] GRUP Top "SOUN" processed[00:12] Background Loader: [Knights.esp] GRUP Top "SCPT" processed[00:12] Background Loader: [Knights.esp] GRUP Top "ENCH" processed[00:12] Background Loader: [Knights.esp] GRUP Top "SPEL" processed[00:12] Background Loader: [Knights.esp] GRUP Top "ACTI" processed[00:12] Background Loader: [Knights.esp] GRUP Top "ARMO" processed[00:12] Background Loader: [Knights.esp] GRUP Top "BOOK" processed[00:12] Background Loader: [Knights.esp] GRUP Top "CLOT" processed[00:12] Background Loader: [Knights.esp] GRUP Top "CONT" processed[00:12] Background Loader: [Knights.esp] GRUP Top "DOOR" processed[00:12] Background Loader: [Knights.esp] GRUP Top "INGR" processed[00:12] Background Loader: [Knights.esp] GRUP Top "LIGH" processed[00:12] Background Loader: [Knights.esp] GRUP Top "MISC" processed[00:12] Background Loader: [Knights.esp] GRUP Top "STAT" processed[00:12] Background Loader: [Knights.esp] GRUP Top "WEAP" processed[00:12] Background Loader: [Knights.esp] GRUP Top "AMMO" processed[00:12] Background Loader: [Knights.esp] GRUP Top "NPC_" processed[00:12] Background Loader: [Knights.esp] GRUP Top "CREA" processed[00:12] Background Loader: [Knights.esp] GRUP Top "LVLC" processed[00:12] Background Loader: [Knights.esp] GRUP Top "KEYM" processed[00:12] Background Loader: [Knights.esp] GRUP Top "ALCH" processed[00:12] Background Loader: [Knights.esp] GRUP Top "SGST" processed[00:12] Background Loader: [Knights.esp] GRUP Top "LVLI" processed[00:12] Background Loader: [Knights.esp] GRUP Top "WTHR" processed[00:12] Background Loader: [Knights.esp] GRUP Top "REGN" processed[00:12] Background Loader: [00:12] Background Loader: [00:12] Background Loader: [00:12] Background Loader: [00:12] Background Loader: [Knights.esp] GRUP Top "CELL" processed[00:12] Background Loader: [Knights.esp] GRUP Top "WRLD" processed[00:12] Background Loader: [Knights.esp] GRUP Top "DIAL" processed[00:12] Background Loader: [Knights.esp] GRUP Top "QUST" processed[00:12] Background Loader: [Knights.esp] GRUP Top "IDLE" processed[00:12] Background Loader: [Knights.esp] GRUP Top "PACK" processed[00:12] Background Loader: [Knights.esp] GRUP Top "CSTY" processed[00:12] Background Loader: [Knights.esp] GRUP Top "LVSP" processed[00:12] Background Loader: [Knights.esp] GRUP Top "EFSH" processed[00:12] Background Loader: [Knights.esp] Building FormID index[00:12] Background Loader: [Knights.esp] FormID index built[00:12] Background Loader: [Knights.esp] Building EditorID index[00:12] Background Loader: [Knights.esp] EditorID index built[00:12] Background Loader: [Knights.esp] Processing completed[00:12] Background Loader: [Knights.esp] Building reference info.[00:13] Background Loader: [Oblivion - Meshes.bsa] Loading Resources.[00:14] Background Loader: [Oblivion - Textures - Compressed.bsa] Loading Resources.[00:15] Background Loader: [Oblivion - Sounds.bsa] Loading Resources.[00:15] Background Loader: [Oblivion - Voices1.bsa] Loading Resources.[00:18] Background Loader: [Oblivion - Voices2.bsa] Loading Resources.[00:22] Background Loader: [Oblivion - Misc.bsa] Loading Resources.[00:22] Background Loader: [Knights.bsa] Loading Resources.[00:22] Background Loader: [F:\PROGRA~1\BETHES~1\OBLIVION\Data\] Setting Resource Path.[00:22] Background Loader: finished[52:41] Background Loader: starting...[00:00] Background Loader: loading "F:\Program Files\Bethesda Softworks\Oblivion\Data\Knights16.esp"...[00:00] Background Loader: [Knights16.esp] Loading file[00:00] Background Loader: [Knights16.esp] File loaded[00:00] Background Loader: [Knights16.esp] Start processing[00:00] Background Loader: [Knights16.esp] Adding master "Oblivion.esm"[00:00] Background Loader: [Oblivion.esm] Loading file[00:00] Background Loader: [Oblivion.esm] File loaded[00:00] Background Loader: [Oblivion.esm] Start processing[00:00] Background Loader: [Oblivion.esm] Header processed. Expecting 1252095 records[00:00] Background Loader: [Oblivion.esm] GRUP Top "GMST" processed[00:00] Background Loader: [Oblivion.esm] GRUP Top "GLOB" processed[00:00] Background Loader: [Oblivion.esm] GRUP Top "CLAS" processed[00:00] Background Loader: [Oblivion.esm] GRUP Top "FACT" processed[00:00] Background Loader: [Oblivion.esm] GRUP Top "HAIR" processed[00:00] Background Loader: [Oblivion.esm] GRUP Top "EYES" processed[00:00] Background Loader: [Oblivion.esm] GRUP Top "RACE" processed[00:00] Background Loader: [Oblivion.esm] GRUP Top "SOUN" processed[00:00] Background Loader: [Oblivion.esm] GRUP Top "SKIL" processed[00:00] Background Loader: [Oblivion.esm] GRUP Top "MGEF" processed[00:00] Background Loader: [Oblivion.esm] GRUP Top "SCPT" processed[00:00] Background Loader: [Oblivion.esm] GRUP Top "LTEX" processed[00:00] Background Loader: [Oblivion.esm] GRUP Top "ENCH" processed[00:00] Background Loader: [Oblivion.esm] GRUP Top "SPEL" processed[00:00] Background Loader: [Oblivion.esm] GRUP Top "BSGN" processed[00:00] Background Loader: [Oblivion.esm] GRUP Top "ACTI" processed[00:00] Background Loader: [Oblivion.esm] GRUP Top "APPA" processed[00:00] Background Loader: [Oblivion.esm] GRUP Top "ARMO" processed[00:00] Background Loader: [Oblivion.esm] GRUP Top "BOOK" processed[00:00] Background Loader: [Oblivion.esm] GRUP Top "CLOT" processed[00:00] Background Loader: [Oblivion.esm] GRUP Top "CONT" processed[00:00] Background Loader: [Oblivion.esm] GRUP Top "DOOR" processed[00:00] Background Loader: [Oblivion.esm] GRUP Top "INGR" processed[00:00] Background Loader: [Oblivion.esm] GRUP Top "LIGH" processed[00:00] Background Loader: [Oblivion.esm] GRUP Top "MISC" processed[00:00] Background Loader: [Oblivion.esm] GRUP Top "STAT" processed[00:00] Background Loader: [Oblivion.esm] GRUP Top "GRAS" processed[00:00] Background Loader: [Oblivion.esm] GRUP Top "TREE" processed[00:00] Background Loader: [Oblivion.esm] GRUP Top "FLOR" processed[00:00] Background Loader: [Oblivion.esm] GRUP Top "FURN" processed[00:00] Background Loader: [Oblivion.esm] GRUP Top "WEAP" processed[00:00] Background Loader: [Oblivion.esm] GRUP Top "AMMO" processed[00:00] Background Loader: [Oblivion.esm] GRUP Top "NPC_" processed[00:00] Background Loader: [Oblivion.esm] GRUP Top "CREA" processed[00:00] Background Loader: [Oblivion.esm] GRUP Top "LVLC" processed[00:00] Background Loader: [Oblivion.esm] GRUP Top "SLGM" processed[00:00] Background Loader: [Oblivion.esm] GRUP Top "KEYM" processed[00:00] Background Loader: [Oblivion.esm] GRUP Top "ALCH" processed[00:00] Background Loader: [Oblivion.esm] GRUP Top "SBSP" processed[00:00] Background Loader: [Oblivion.esm] GRUP Top "SGST" processed[00:00] Background Loader: [Oblivion.esm] GRUP Top "LVLI" processed[00:00] Background Loader: [Oblivion.esm] GRUP Top "WTHR" processed[00:00] Background Loader: [Oblivion.esm] GRUP Top "CLMT" processed[00:00] Background Loader: [Oblivion.esm] GRUP Top "REGN" processed[00:02] Background Loader: [Oblivion.esm] GRUP Top "CELL" processed[00:07] Background Loader: [Oblivion.esm] GRUP Top "WRLD" processed[00:07] Background Loader: [Oblivion.esm] GRUP Top "DIAL" processed[00:07] Background Loader: [Oblivion.esm] GRUP Top "QUST" processed[00:07] Background Loader: [Oblivion.esm] GRUP Top "IDLE" processed[00:07] Background Loader: [Oblivion.esm] GRUP Top "PACK" processed[00:07] Background Loader: [Oblivion.esm] GRUP Top "CSTY" processed[00:07] Background Loader: [Oblivion.esm] GRUP Top "LSCR" processed[00:07] Background Loader: [Oblivion.esm] GRUP Top "LVSP" processed[00:07] Background Loader: [Oblivion.esm] GRUP Top "ANIO" processed[00:07] Background Loader: [Oblivion.esm] GRUP Top "WATR" processed[00:07] Background Loader: [Oblivion.esm] GRUP Top "EFSH" processed[00:07] Background Loader: [Oblivion.esm] Building FormID index[00:10] Background Loader: [Oblivion.esm] FormID index built[00:10] Background Loader: [Oblivion.esm] Building EditorID index[00:10] Background Loader: [Oblivion.esm] EditorID index built[00:10] Background Loader: [Oblivion.esm] Processing completed[00:10] Background Loader: Fatal: [00:10] Background Loader: finished

» Fri May 13, 2011 4:38 am

Taking one of my own ESPs and comparing it to a copy of itself, for me TES4Edit works slightly differently.
Everything matches up to the point of loading the first ESP and finishing the Background Loader.
When I then compare to the copy ESP, for you, TES4Edit again loads Oblivion.esm and reads it, then gets upset and aborts. For me, it does NOT reload Oblivion.esm.
See here (starting from when I chose the Compare To option):

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[00:22] Background Loader: finished
[17:49] Background Loader: starting...
[00:00] Background Loader: loading "C:\Program Files (x86)\Bethesda Softworks\Oblivion\Data\zzLavaCave - Copy.esp"...
[00:00] Background Loader: [zzLavaCave - Copy.esp] Loading file
[00:00] Background Loader: [zzLavaCave - Copy.esp] File loaded
[00:00] Background Loader: [zzLavaCave - Copy.esp] Start processing
[00:00] Background Loader: [zzLavaCave - Copy.esp] Adding master "Oblivion.esm"
[00:00] Background Loader: [zzLavaCave - Copy.esp] Adding master "Better Cities Resources.esm"
[00:00] Background Loader: [zzLavaCave - Copy.esp] Adding master "zzLavaCave.esp"
[00:00] Background Loader: [zzLavaCave - Copy.esp] Header processed. Expecting 864 records
[00:00] Background Loader: [zzLavaCave - Copy.esp] GRUP Top "DOOR" processed
[00:00] Background Loader: [zzLavaCave - Copy.esp] GRUP Top "STAT" processed
[00:00] Background Loader: [zzLavaCave - Copy.esp] GRUP Top "FURN" processed
[00:00] Background Loader:
[00:00] Background Loader:
[00:00] Background Loader:
[00:00] Background Loader: [zzLavaCave - Copy.esp] GRUP Top "CELL" processed
[00:00] Background Loader: [zzLavaCave - Copy.esp] GRUP Top "WRLD" processed
[00:00] Background Loader: [zzLavaCave - Copy.esp] GRUP Top "DIAL" processed
[00:00] Background Loader: [zzLavaCave - Copy.esp] Building FormID index
[00:00] Background Loader: [zzLavaCave - Copy.esp] FormID index built
[00:00] Background Loader: [zzLavaCave - Copy.esp] Building EditorID index
[00:00] Background Loader: [zzLavaCave - Copy.esp] EditorID index built
[00:00] Background Loader: [zzLavaCave - Copy.esp] Processing completed
[00:00] Background Loader: [zzLavaCave - Copy.esp] Building reference info.
[00:00] Background Loader: finished

My ESP had another ESM as master, just ignore that. So while I have no idea what is going wrong for you, clearly TES4Edit is not running this process in the same manner as it does for me, with that second reading of Oblivion.esm
It is easy to just say "it's because you're using Chinese Windows", but I shan't say that, as I have no way of knowing whether that would be a problem or not. Sorry, I'm stumped. You have the latest version of TES4Edit? v2.5.3?

» Fri May 13, 2011 10:32 am

Yea, i do. Thanks for the help anyway.

» Fri May 13, 2011 5:34 pm

Can you load Knights16.esp by itself without trying to compare it?

» Fri May 13, 2011 6:57 pm

Can you load Knights16.esp by itself without trying to compare it?

Yes, (unfortunately) i can. This always happens with any mod. Its been happening for about 6 months now (since i started trying to use the compare to function)- only problem i've had with tes4edit so far.

» Fri May 13, 2011 4:19 pm

No idea, I just gave it a shot on a few copied ESPs and then compared them, my experience is the same as Vorians. The ESP selected with "compare to" does not cause Oblivion.esm to get loaded again.