Help, re-installed windows & oblivion w/ mods : IV

» Fri May 13, 2011 6:44 pm

Hi,

I recently moved from 64-bit vista to 64-bit win7 (clean install). My Oblivion is heavily modded, and I didn't want to go through installing all of them all over again, so before reformatting I just copied the Oblivion directory to an external hard drive, and saved the Oblivion registry key (I've read that this should actually work). Well, you've probably guessed it ain't working

After installing win7, I moved it back to the hard drive, ran the registry keys and windows greets me with a message that goes something like this (my OS is finnish so probably not word for word): "Application couldn't be initialized (0xc0000142)." No other option than to close the window. I've tried deactivating all mods, re-creating bashed patch and removing Oblivion.ini. I even installed oblivion from scratch and then replaced the directory with the modded one, no dice. FWIW, oblivion did start correctly as vanilla, so it's probably nothing win7 or driver related..Here's my mod order:

00  Oblivion.esm01  ScreenEffects.esm02  All Natural Base.esm  [Version 0.9.7]03  Francesco's Leveled Creatures-Items Mod.esm04  Francesco's Optional New Items Add-On.esm05  Cobl Main.esm  [Version 1.71]06  Ulrim's Horses.esm07  Oscuro's_Oblivion_Overhaul.esm  [Version 1.34]08  Mart's Monster Mod.esm  [Version 3.7b1]09  TamrielTravellers.esm  [Version 1.39c]0A  FCOM_Convergence.esm  [Version 0.9.9a7]0B  Better Cities Resources.esm0C  HorseCombatMaster.esm0D  You Are Here.esm0E  Disable_Weapon_Membrane_Shaders-3127.esp0F  NoLoadMessage.esp10  TNR ALL RACES FINAL.esp11  TNR - ShiveringIsles no helms.esp12  Cobl Races.esp  [Version 1.52]13  Cobl Races TNR.esp  [Version 1.53]14  Cobl Races TNR SI.esp  [Version 1.53]15  HrmnsOblivionScriptOptimizationv1.0.esp16  Unofficial Oblivion Patch.esp  [Version 3.2.0]17  Oblivion Citadel Door Fix.esp18  Oblivion.esp19  DLCShiveringIsles.esp1A  Unofficial Shivering Isles Patch.esp  [Version 1.4.0]1B  Better Cities .esp1C  Francesco's Optional Chance of Stronger Bosses.esp1D  Francesco's Optional Chance of Stronger Enemies.esp1E  Francesco's Optional Chance of More Enemies.esp1F  Francesco's Optional Leveled Quests-SI only.esp20  Francesco's Optional Leveled Guards.esp21  Francesco's Dark Seducer Weapons Patch.esp22  FCOM_Francescos.esp  [Version 0.9.9]23  FCOM_FrancescosItemsAddOn.esp  [Version 0.9.9]24  FCOM_FrancescosNamedBosses.esp  [Version 0.9.9]25  Fran Armor Add-on.esp26  Fran_Lv30Item_Maltz.esp27  Natural_Habitat_by_Max_Tael.esp28  All Natural - Real Lights.esp  [Version 0.9.7]29  All Natural.esp  [Version 0.9.7]2A  All Natural - EW + NW + AWS.esp  [Version 0.9.6]2B  Enhanced Water v2.0 HDMI.esp2C  Symphony of Violence.esp2D  AmbientTownSounds.esp2E  MIS Low Wind.esp2F  MIS New Sounds Optional Part.esp30  Storms & Sound.esp31  Rainbows.esp32  Cities Alive At Night.esp33  WindowLightingSystem.esp34  AliveWaters.esp35  AliveWaters - Koi Addon.esp36  AliveWaters - Slaughterfish Addon.esp37  P1DmenuEscape.esp38  Quick Wardrobe.esp39  Oblivion Gate Map Marker Remover.esp  [Version 1.1.0]3A  Expanded Hotkeys and Spell Delete v1.0.esp3B  Expanded Hotkeys Brief Equip Message.esp3C  DLCOrrery.esp3D  DLCOrrery - Unofficial Patch.esp  [Version 1.0.3]3E  DLCVileLair.esp3F  DLCVileLair - Unofficial Patch.esp  [Version 1.0.5]40  DLCMehrunesRazor.esp41  DLCMehrunesRazor - Unofficial Patch.esp  [Version 1.0.4]42  Slof's Horses Base.esp43  Slof's Extra Horses.esp44  Dude Wheres My Horse.esp45  HRMHorseCommands.esp46  DLCThievesDen.esp47  DLCThievesDen - Unofficial Patch.esp  [Version 1.0.5]48  DLCThievesDen - Unofficial Patch - SSSB.esp  [Version 1.0.4]49  ExnemRuneskulls.esp4A  FCOM_ExnemRuneskulls.esp  [Version 0.9.9]4B  Cobl Glue.esp  [Version 1.69]4C  Cobl Si.esp  [Version 1.63]4D  OOO 1.32-Cobl.esp  [Version 1.69]4E  FCOM_Cobl.esp  [Version 0.9.9]4F  Bob's Armory Oblivion.esp50  FCOM_BobsArmory.esp  [Version 0.9.9]51  Oblivion WarCry EV.esp52  FCOM_WarCry.esp  [Version 0.9.9]53  Oscuro's_Oblivion_Overhaul.esp  [Version 1.34]54  FCOM_Convergence.esp  [Version 0.9.9]55  FCOM_EntropicOrderRebalance.esp  [Version 0.9.9beta2]56  FCOM_RealSwords.esp  [Version 0.9.9]57  FCOM_SpawnRatesSlightlyReduced.esp  [Version 0.9.9]58  FCOM_SaferRoads.esp  [Version 0.9.9]59  Mart's Monster Mod - Looting NPCs & Creatures.esp  [Version 3.7b1]5A  Mart's Monster Mod - Dungeons of MMM.esp  [Version 3.7b1]5B  TamrielTravellerAdvscript.esp  [Version 1.39c]5C  TamrielTravellers4OOO.esp  [Version 1.39c]5D  TamrielTravellersItemsnpc.esp  [Version 1.39c]5E  TamrielTravellersItemsCobl.esp  [Version 1.39c]5F  ShiveringIsleTravellers.esp  [Version 1.39c]60  ShiveringIsleTravellersFriendlyFactions4MMM.esp  [Version 1.39c]61  FCOM_TamrielTravelers.esp  [Version 0.9.9]62  FCOM_DiverseGuardUnity.esp  [Version 0.9.9]63  FCOM_BobsGuardUnity.esp  [Version 0.9.9]64  TIE In.esp  [Version 1.2b]65  TIE In - Cobl.esp  [Version 1.2b]66  TIE In - ExnemRuneskulls.esp  [Version 1.2b]67  TIE In - FCOM Convergence.esp  [Version 1.2b]68  TIE In - RealSwords.esp  [Version 1.2b]69  TIE In - DiverseGuardUnity.esp  [Version 1.2b]6A  TIE In - BobsGuardUnity.esp  [Version 1.2b]6B  MMM-Cobl.esp  [Version 1.69]6C  Cyrodill Travel Services.esp  [Version 1.2]6D  DLCfrostcrag.esp6E  DLCFrostcrag - Unofficial Patch.esp  [Version 1.0.4]6F  Knights.esp70  Knights - Unofficial Patch.esp  [Version 1.0.9]71  ElsweyrAnequina.esp72  road+bridges.esp  [Version 4.4.4]73  xuldarkforest.esp  [Version 1.0.2]74  xulStendarrValley.esp  [Version 1.2]75  xulTheHeath.esp76  XulEntiusGorge.esp77  xulFallenleafEverglade.esp  [Version 1.3]78  xulColovianHighlands_EV.esp79  xulChorrolHinterland.esp  [Version 1.2.2]7A  xulBeachesOfCyrodiilLostCoast.esp  [Version 1.6.2]7B  xulBravilBarrowfields.esp  [Version 1.3.1]7C  xulLushWoodlands.esp  [Version 1.3]7D  xulAncientYews.esp7E  xulAncientRedwoods.esp  [Version 1.6]7F  xulCloudtopMountains.esp  [Version 1.0.1]80  xulArriusCreek.esp81  xulPatch_AY_AC.esp  [Version 1.1]82  xulPantherRiver.esp83  xulRiverEthe.esp84  xulRollingHills_EV.esp  [Version 1.3.2]85  xulBrenaRiverRavine.esp  [Version 1.0.2]86  xulBlackwoodForest.esp87  xulImperialIsle.esp  [Version 1.6.1]88  NRB4+UL-II Patch.esp  [Version 4.1]89  Better Cities Full.esp8A  Better Cities - Full City Defences.esp8B  Better Cities - Unique Landscape Barrowfields.esp8C  Better Cities - Unique Landscape Chorrol Hinterland.esp8D  FCOM_UnofficialFranArmorAddon.esp  [Version 0.9.9]8E  DS Portable Sorters.esp  [Version 1.1]8F  Dungeon Actors Have Torches 1.6 DT.esp90  ImmersiveWait.esp91  P1DkeyChain.esp  [Version 5.00]92  Salmo the Baker, Cobl.esp  [Version 3.08]93  ScriptIcon_Replacer.esp94  Enhanced Vegetation [125%].esp95  Storms & Sound - Better Cities.esp96  talkwithyourhands2.esp97  TIE In - Rebalance.esp  [Version 1.2b]98  TIE In - Salmo, Cobl.esp  [Version 1.2b]99  TIE In - SlofsHorses.esp  [Version 1.2b]9A  TIE In - DLCOrrery.esp  [Version 1.2b]9B  TIE In - DLCThievesDen.esp  [Version 1.2b]9C  TIE In - DLCFrostcrag.esp  [Version 1.2b]9D  TIE In - BC-Anvil.esp  [Version 1.2b]9E  RealSleepExtended.esp  [Version 2.1]9F  MidasSpells.espA0  StealthOverhaul.espA1  Adrenaline Fuelled Archery- Bow Sway.espA2  Deadly Reflex 5 - Timed block and 150% damage.espA3  Let There Be Darkness - Knights.espA4  Let There Be Darkness - Cyrodiil + SI.espA5  Let There Be Darkness - Mehrunes Razor.esp++  Item interchange - Placement for Frostcrag Reborn.esp  [Version 0.74]A6  _No__persistant_enchantment_glow_fix-1843.espA7  Docile Aminals.espA8  ImprovedSigns.espA9  Weather Debug Ring.espAA  Forward Motion Blur.espAB  Get Wet.espAC  Drop Lit Torches Weight.esp  [Version 1.6]AD  GW71_Life_Detect.espAE  MotionBlur.espAF  Mart's Monster Mod - Resized Races.esp  [Version 3.7b1]B0  Better Imperial City.espB1  Better Cities - COBL.esp  [Version 0]B2  DLCHorseArmor.espB3  DLCHorseArmor - Unofficial Patch.esp  [Version 1.0.5]B4  Ulrim's Horses.espB5  Ulrim's Horses - Knights patch.espB6  TIE In - Knights.esp  [Version 1.2b]B7  FCOM_Knights.esp  [Version 0.9.9]B8  NoOblivionWeatherOutside.espB9  NRB4 Standard Road Record.espBA  marksman_challenge.espBB  Cobl Silent Equip Misc.esp  [Version 01]BC  All Natural - SI.esp  [Version 0.9.7]BD  BetterMusicSystem.espBE  SoundscaperNOSI.espBF  Bashed Patch, 0.espC0  Streamline 3.1.espC1  Enhanced Grabbing.esp  [Version 0.4]C2  DeadlyReflex 5 - Combat Moves.esp

Any help would be much appreciated, though I'm starting to get used to the fact that I'm probably gonna have to do a lot of mod installing in the future.. And I'm such a n 0 0 b that I can't figure out how to place text in a scrollable box so I'm sorry for the long list

» Fri May 13, 2011 2:21 pm

Did you sort this load order with BOSS? I know that last plugin is in the wrong place. Actually, a bunch of your plugins are in the wrong place. Fix your load order. Also, remove TIE - In and Slof's Horses Base. You need to read the MMM thread about updates. The Slof's horses piece is clear as day in the MMM opening post. Those resources are now included in MMM 3.7b3. You just need to install the Slof's Horses Complete optional module. Lastly, MMM Looting NPCs and Creatures causes instability from some, but you do not have a stable enough setup to with which you could determine whether or not it is causing problems for you. Actually, why are those random Better Cities plugins in there. Remove them. You do not have BC installed. This SHOULD NOT RUN.

http://sites.google.com/site/oblivionpoinfo/prep then --> http://sites.google.com/site/oblivionpoinfo/finishinstall

» Fri May 13, 2011 1:11 pm

Thanks for the reply. As messed up as the load order looks, I did run it perfectly fine before installing the new OS (and I did have Better Cities installed). But as I stated at my first post I tried to run the game with all mods disabled, but it wouldn't run, so it's probably not load order related. I did make the changes you suggested and sorted the list with boss but it didn't work.

» Fri May 13, 2011 8:28 am

Probably better not to install Vista registry entries into Win7.

Do a new install of Oblivion and Shivering Isles. Don't install to the "program files" directory. Patch it to the latest patch (if not using the GOTY edition).

Run the game at least once from the default OblivionLauncher.exe file.

After that, copy your old Oblivion directory onto the new one.

That will make sure your registry settings are correct.

» Fri May 13, 2011 6:26 pm

What do you mean it did not work? Also, you do not have the BC Resource ESM or the rest of the main mod. The game is going to crash if you have missing masters, and that load order has plenty of them.

Edit: Once the vanilla game is working and you add that list to it again, the game is going to crash on load.

» Fri May 13, 2011 7:39 pm

What do you mean it did not work? Also, you do not have the BC Resource ESM or the rest of the main mod. The game is going to crash if you have missing masters, and that load order has plenty of them.

Edit: Once the vanilla game is working and you add that list to it again, the game is going to crash on load.

It gave me the same error as before.. I do have the BC Resource ESM, it's the 12th item (13th on the new one) on the list.

Now the load order looks like this:

00  Oblivion.esm01  ScreenEffects.esm02  You Are Here.esm03  All Natural Base.esm  [Version 0.9.7]04  Francesco's Leveled Creatures-Items Mod.esm05  Francesco's Optional New Items Add-On.esm06  Cobl Main.esm  [Version 1.71]07  Ulrim's Horses.esm08  Oscuro's_Oblivion_Overhaul.esm  [Version 1.34]09  Mart's Monster Mod.esm  [Version 3.7b1]0A  TamrielTravellers.esm  [Version 1.39c]0B  FCOM_Convergence.esm  [Version 0.9.9a7]0C  Better Cities Resources.esm0D  HorseCombatMaster.esm0E  HrmnsOblivionScriptOptimizationv1.0.esp0F  TNR ALL RACES FINAL.esp10  TNR - ShiveringIsles no helms.esp11  Unofficial Oblivion Patch.esp  [Version 3.2.0]12  Oblivion Citadel Door Fix.esp13  DLCShiveringIsles.esp14  Unofficial Shivering Isles Patch.esp  [Version 1.4.0]15  Better Cities .esp16  Oblivion.esp17  Francesco's Optional Chance of Stronger Bosses.esp18  Francesco's Optional Chance of Stronger Enemies.esp19  Francesco's Optional Chance of More Enemies.esp1A  Francesco's Optional Leveled Quests-SI only.esp1B  Francesco's Optional Leveled Guards.esp1C  Francesco's Dark Seducer Weapons Patch.esp1D  FCOM_Francescos.esp  [Version 0.9.9]1E  FCOM_FrancescosItemsAddOn.esp  [Version 0.9.9]1F  FCOM_FrancescosNamedBosses.esp  [Version 0.9.9]20  Fran Armor Add-on.esp21  Fran_Lv30Item_Maltz.esp22  Natural_Habitat_by_Max_Tael.esp23  All Natural - Real Lights.esp  [Version 0.9.7]24  All Natural.esp  [Version 0.9.7]25  All Natural - EW + NW + AWS.esp  [Version 0.9.6]26  Weather Debug Ring.esp27  Enhanced Water v2.0 HDMI.esp28  Symphony of Violence.esp29  AmbientTownSounds.esp2A  MIS Low Wind.esp2B  MIS New Sounds Optional Part.esp2C  Storms & Sound.esp2D  Rainbows.esp2E  Cities Alive At Night.esp2F  WindowLightingSystem.esp30  AliveWaters.esp31  AliveWaters - Koi Addon.esp32  AliveWaters - Slaughterfish Addon.esp33  ImprovedSigns.esp34  P1DmenuEscape.esp35  BetterMusicSystem.esp36  Quick Wardrobe.esp37  Expanded Hotkeys and Spell Delete v1.0.esp38  Expanded Hotkeys Brief Equip Message.esp39  DLCHorseArmor.esp3A  DLCHorseArmor - Unofficial Patch.esp  [Version 1.0.5]3B  DLCOrrery.esp3C  DLCOrrery - Unofficial Patch.esp  [Version 1.0.3]3D  DLCVileLair.esp3E  DLCVileLair - Unofficial Patch.esp  [Version 1.0.5]3F  DLCMehrunesRazor.esp40  DLCMehrunesRazor - Unofficial Patch.esp  [Version 1.0.4]**  Slof's Horses Base.esp41  Slof's Extra Horses.esp42  Dude Wheres My Horse.esp43  HRMHorseCommands.esp44  DLCThievesDen.esp45  DLCThievesDen - Unofficial Patch.esp  [Version 1.0.5]46  DLCThievesDen - Unofficial Patch - SSSB.esp  [Version 1.0.4]47  ExnemRuneskulls.esp48  FCOM_ExnemRuneskulls.esp  [Version 0.9.9]49  Cobl Glue.esp  [Version 1.69]4A  Cobl Si.esp  [Version 1.63]4B  OOO 1.32-Cobl.esp  [Version 1.69]4C  FCOM_Cobl.esp  [Version 0.9.9]4D  Bob's Armory Oblivion.esp4E  FCOM_BobsArmory.esp  [Version 0.9.9]4F  Oblivion WarCry EV.esp50  FCOM_WarCry.esp  [Version 0.9.9]51  Oscuro's_Oblivion_Overhaul.esp  [Version 1.34]52  FCOM_Convergence.esp  [Version 0.9.9]53  FCOM_EntropicOrderRebalance.esp  [Version 0.9.9beta2]54  FCOM_RealSwords.esp  [Version 0.9.9]55  FCOM_SpawnRatesSlightlyReduced.esp  [Version 0.9.9]56  FCOM_SaferRoads.esp  [Version 0.9.9]++  Mart's Monster Mod - Looting NPCs & Creatures.esp  [Version 3.7b1]57  Mart's Monster Mod - Dungeons of MMM.esp  [Version 3.7b1]58  TamrielTravellerAdvscript.esp  [Version 1.39c]59  TamrielTravellers4OOO.esp  [Version 1.39c]5A  TamrielTravellersItemsnpc.esp  [Version 1.39c]5B  TamrielTravellersItemsCobl.esp  [Version 1.39c]5C  ShiveringIsleTravellers.esp  [Version 1.39c]5D  ShiveringIsleTravellersFriendlyFactions4MMM.esp  [Version 1.39c]5E  FCOM_TamrielTravelers.esp  [Version 0.9.9]5F  FCOM_DiverseGuardUnity.esp  [Version 0.9.9]60  FCOM_BobsGuardUnity.esp  [Version 0.9.9]61  TIE In.esp  [Version 1.2b]++  TIE In - ExnemRuneskulls.esp  [Version 1.2b]++  TIE In - Cobl.esp  [Version 1.2b]++  TIE In - RealSwords.esp  [Version 1.2b]++  TIE In - DiverseGuardUnity.esp  [Version 1.2b]++  TIE In - BobsGuardUnity.esp  [Version 1.2b]62  MMM-Cobl.esp  [Version 1.69]63  Cyrodill Travel Services.esp  [Version 1.2]64  DLCfrostcrag.esp65  DLCFrostcrag - Unofficial Patch.esp  [Version 1.0.4]**  Ulrim's Horses.esp66  Knights.esp67  Knights - Unofficial Patch.esp  [Version 1.0.9]68  Ulrim's Horses - Knights patch.esp++  TIE In - Knights.esp  [Version 1.2b]69  FCOM_Knights.esp  [Version 0.9.9]6A  ElsweyrAnequina.esp6B  road+bridges.esp  [Version 4.4.4]6C  xuldarkforest.esp  [Version 1.0.2]6D  xulStendarrValley.esp  [Version 1.2]6E  xulTheHeath.esp6F  XulEntiusGorge.esp70  xulFallenleafEverglade.esp  [Version 1.3]71  xulColovianHighlands_EV.esp72  xulChorrolHinterland.esp  [Version 1.2.2]73  xulBeachesOfCyrodiilLostCoast.esp  [Version 1.6.2]74  xulBravilBarrowfields.esp  [Version 1.3.1]75  xulLushWoodlands.esp  [Version 1.3]76  xulAncientYews.esp77  xulAncientRedwoods.esp  [Version 1.6]78  xulCloudtopMountains.esp  [Version 1.0.1]79  xulArriusCreek.esp7A  xulPatch_AY_AC.esp  [Version 1.1]7B  xulRollingHills_EV.esp  [Version 1.3.2]7C  xulPantherRiver.esp7D  xulRiverEthe.esp7E  xulBrenaRiverRavine.esp  [Version 1.0.2]7F  xulImperialIsle.esp  [Version 1.6.1]80  xulBlackwoodForest.esp81  NRB4+UL-II Patch.esp  [Version 4.1]82  Oblivion Gate Map Marker Remover.esp  [Version 1.1.0]83  FCOM_UnofficialFranArmorAddon.esp  [Version 0.9.9]84  Drop Lit Torches Weight.esp  [Version 1.6]85  DS Portable Sorters.esp  [Version 1.1]86  Dungeon Actors Have Torches 1.6 DT.esp87  ImmersiveWait.esp88  P1DkeyChain.esp  [Version 5.00]89  Salmo the Baker, Cobl.esp  [Version 3.08]8A  ScriptIcon_Replacer.esp8B  Enhanced Vegetation [125%].esp8C  talkwithyourhands2.esp++  TIE In - Rebalance.esp  [Version 1.2b]8D  TIE In - Salmo, Cobl.esp  [Version 1.2b]++  TIE In - SlofsHorses.esp  [Version 1.2b]8E  TIE In - DLCOrrery.esp  [Version 1.2b]8F  TIE In - DLCThievesDen.esp  [Version 1.2b]90  TIE In - DLCFrostcrag.esp  [Version 1.2b]++  TIE In - BC-Anvil.esp  [Version 1.2b]91  RealSleepExtended.esp  [Version 2.1]92  MidasSpells.esp93  StealthOverhaul.esp94  Enhanced Grabbing.esp  [Version 0.4]95  Adrenaline Fuelled Archery- Bow Sway.esp96  Deadly Reflex 5 - Timed block and 150% damage.esp97  DeadlyReflex 5 - Combat Moves.esp98  Let There Be Darkness - Knights.esp99  Let There Be Darkness - Cyrodiil + SI.esp9A  Let There Be Darkness - Mehrunes Razor.esp++  Item interchange - Placement for Frostcrag Reborn.esp  [Version 0.74]9B  Mart's Monster Mod - Resized Races.esp  [Version 3.7b1]9C  Cobl Races.esp  [Version 1.52]9D  Cobl Races TNR.esp  [Version 1.53]9E  Cobl Races TNR SI.esp  [Version 1.53]9F  Better Cities Full.espA0  Better Cities - Full City Defences.espA1  Better Cities - Unique Landscape Barrowfields.espA2  Better Cities - Unique Landscape Chorrol Hinterland.espA3  Better Imperial City.espA4  Better Cities - COBL.esp  [Version 0]A5  _No__persistant_enchantment_glow_fix-1843.espA6  Forward Motion Blur.espA7  Get Wet.espA8  GW71_Life_Detect.espA9  MotionBlur.espAA  NRB4 Standard Road Record.espAB  Cobl Silent Equip Misc.esp  [Version 01]AC  Bashed Patch, 0.espAD  Streamline 3.1.espAE  Disable_Weapon_Membrane_Shaders-3127.espAF  NoLoadMessage.espB0  Docile Aminals.espB1  NoOblivionWeatherOutside.espB2  marksman_challenge.espB3  All Natural - SI.esp  [Version 0.9.7]B4  SoundscaperNOSI.esp

EDIT: Oops, forgot to disable TIE In, the result is the same though.

» Fri May 13, 2011 1:40 pm

Make sure you have http://www.microsoft.com/downloads/details.aspx?FamilyID=2DA43D38-DB71-4C1B-BC6A-9B6652CD92A3&displaylang=en installed.

Remove TIE In and sort your load order. The first page I linked contains a link to the BOSS download and instructions for installing it. The second page contains the instructions for running it. You should definitely follow Showler's instructions because some of the utilities are sensitive to the Win7 and Vista UAC mess as well. Also, make sure you are trying to run BOSS with the BAT file and not the EXE. You need to update MMM and FCOM. You have to completely uninstall MMM before installing MMM 3.7b3.

http://sites.google.com/site/oblivionpoinfo/walkthroughs/baininstallguide/f1

» Fri May 13, 2011 10:23 am

Probably better not to install Vista registry entries into Win7.

Do a new install of Oblivion and Shivering Isles. Don't install to the "program files" directory. Patch it to the latest patch (if not using the GOTY edition).

Run the game at least once from the default OblivionLauncher.exe file.

After that, copy your old Oblivion directory onto the new one.

That will make sure your registry settings are correct.

Actually I kinda tried that already. I installed oblivion (GOTY, I assume it's already patched?), ran the game fine (started a new game and fooled around in the prison) and replaced the folder with the old one. Result was the same.

» Fri May 13, 2011 11:22 am

Do a http://sites.google.com/site/oblivionpoinfo/install. Did you regenerate your Oblivion.ini?

» Fri May 13, 2011 9:50 am

Just out of curiousity, what folder are you installed to?

I'm curious as to whether Win7 is having issues with regard to the ownership of the files. Transferring files from one computer to another can cause issues if the old computer had security restrictions on the files.

» Fri May 13, 2011 7:22 am

I'm pretty sure I regenerated Oblivion.ini, but I'll give it a try when I have time. Are you sure the clean install has to be done exactly that way, I uninstalled Oblivion from the programs list and deleted all registry entries manually. I've always installed Oblivion to another drive than C:.

» Fri May 13, 2011 1:51 pm

All I can say is that I know that that method works. Following it to the "T" is up to you.

» Fri May 13, 2011 2:11 pm

I am running win7 64, I am getting the occasional ctd, but it works really well so far.

you are running as an administrator right?
installing to another drive is the same as NOT installing to program files, so that should be ok.

You stated you uninstalled it, did you also manually delete the left over files? the save game folders, the obliv file for where you installed it?
this is for just the vanilla install.

» Fri May 13, 2011 6:16 pm

I am running win7 64, I am getting the occasional ctd, but it works really well so far.

you are running as an administrator right?
installing to another drive is the same as NOT installing to program files, so that should be ok.

You stated you uninstalled it, did you also manually delete the left over files? the save game folders, the obliv file for where you installed it?
this is for just the vanilla install.

Yes, I'm pretty sure I removed everything possible. I've got administrator rights and UAC is disabled. Maybe some files were corrupted during the transfer or something..wish these error messages were a bit more informative.. :rolleyes:

» Fri May 13, 2011 10:59 am

Yes, I'm pretty sure I removed everything possible. I've got administrator rights and UAC is disabled. Maybe some files were corrupted during the transfer or something..wish these error messages were a bit more informative.. :rolleyes:

after the full clean and reinstall, it still wont run just vanilla?

only thing I can suggest is to run the latest vanilla patch, just in case.

» Fri May 13, 2011 6:54 pm

No, vanilla runs fine. After replacing the vanilla folder with the modded one is when the problems start.

» Fri May 13, 2011 10:14 am

Your mod list is incorrect. Have you made any of the changes I suggested? Is BOSS working now?

Edit: You should also have many of those FCOM plugin pseudo-activated (merged into the bashed patch and unchecked.) Do you have the latest version of Wrye Bash (v282)?

» Fri May 13, 2011 11:35 am

Could we get some screenshots of the old Oblivion directory and Data directory?

» Fri May 13, 2011 7:49 am

Could we get some screenshots of the old Oblivion directory and Data directory?

1. latest wrye bash with his new python
2. latest obse, not latest stable
3. update the mods you are using.

» Fri May 13, 2011 8:50 am

Whoa, I got it working, kind of. I've got a Creative X-Fi XtremeGamer sound card with the ALchemy software. I disabled Oblivion from the list and voila! But it still isn't all nice and good, because there's a good bunch of textures missing and replaced by pretty purple pixel porridge. For example the trees' trunks are ok, but the treetops where you should see the leaves, are not. I'll post pics later on, if you want, but first I'll get some sleep.. I reckon this might have something to do with OBMM not recognizing texture mods properly (I've used it to install the majority of my mods, before I started to use WB). Tomlong, I got the newest masterlist for BOSS and ran it, also merged the mods that were marked as green. How does it look now (the last 5 of them BOSS didn't recognize so they're last)? Thank you all very much for helping!

00  Oblivion.esm01  ScreenEffects.esm02  You Are Here.esm03  All Natural Base.esm  [Version 0.9.7]04  Francesco's Leveled Creatures-Items Mod.esm05  Francesco's Optional New Items Add-On.esm06  Cobl Main.esm  [Version 1.71]07  Ulrim's Horses.esm08  Oscuro's_Oblivion_Overhaul.esm  [Version 1.34]09  Mart's Monster Mod.esm  [Version 3.7b1]0A  TamrielTravellers.esm  [Version 1.39c]0B  FCOM_Convergence.esm  [Version 0.9.9a7]0C  Better Cities Resources.esm0D  HorseCombatMaster.esm++  HrmnsOblivionScriptOptimizationv1.0.esp++  TNR ALL RACES FINAL.esp++  TNR - ShiveringIsles no helms.esp0E  Unofficial Oblivion Patch.esp  [Version 3.2.0]0F  Oblivion Citadel Door Fix.esp10  DLCShiveringIsles.esp11  Unofficial Shivering Isles Patch.esp  [Version 1.4.0]12  Better Cities .esp13  Oblivion.esp14  Francesco's Optional Chance of Stronger Bosses.esp15  Francesco's Optional Chance of Stronger Enemies.esp16  Francesco's Optional Chance of More Enemies.esp17  Francesco's Optional Leveled Quests-SI only.esp18  Francesco's Optional Leveled Guards.esp++  Francesco's Dark Seducer Weapons Patch.esp++  FCOM_Francescos.esp  [Version 0.9.9]++  FCOM_FrancescosItemsAddOn.esp  [Version 0.9.9]19  FCOM_FrancescosNamedBosses.esp  [Version 0.9.9]1A  Fran Armor Add-on.esp1B  Fran_Lv30Item_Maltz.esp1C  Natural_Habitat_by_Max_Tael.esp1D  All Natural - Real Lights.esp  [Version 0.9.7]1E  All Natural.esp  [Version 0.9.7]1F  All Natural - SI.esp  [Version 0.9.7]++  All Natural - EW + NW + AWS.esp  [Version 0.9.6]20  Weather Debug Ring.esp21  Enhanced Water v2.0 HDMI.esp++  Symphony of Violence.esp22  AmbientTownSounds.esp23  MIS Low Wind.esp24  MIS New Sounds Optional Part.esp25  Storms & Sound.esp26  Rainbows.esp27  Cities Alive At Night.esp28  WindowLightingSystem.esp29  AliveWaters.esp2A  AliveWaters - Koi Addon.esp2B  AliveWaters - Slaughterfish Addon.esp2C  ImprovedSigns.esp++  Item interchange - Extraction.esp  [Version 0.74]2D  marksman_challenge.esp2E  P1DmenuEscape.esp2F  BetterMusicSystem.esp30  Quick Wardrobe.esp31  Expanded Hotkeys and Spell Delete v1.0.esp32  Expanded Hotkeys Brief Equip Message.esp33  DLCHorseArmor.esp34  DLCHorseArmor - Unofficial Patch.esp  [Version 1.0.5]35  DLCOrrery.esp36  DLCOrrery - Unofficial Patch.esp  [Version 1.0.3]37  DLCVileLair.esp38  DLCVileLair - Unofficial Patch.esp  [Version 1.0.5]39  DLCMehrunesRazor.esp3A  DLCMehrunesRazor - Unofficial Patch.esp  [Version 1.0.4]**  Slof's Horses Base.esp3B  Slof's Extra Horses.esp3C  Dude Wheres My Horse.esp3D  HRMHorseCommands.esp3E  DLCThievesDen.esp3F  DLCThievesDen - Unofficial Patch.esp  [Version 1.0.5]40  DLCThievesDen - Unofficial Patch - SSSB.esp  [Version 1.0.4]41  ExnemRuneskulls.esp++  FCOM_ExnemRuneskulls.esp  [Version 0.9.9]42  Cobl Glue.esp  [Version 1.69]43  Cobl Si.esp  [Version 1.63]44  OOO 1.32-Cobl.esp  [Version 1.69]++  FCOM_Cobl.esp  [Version 0.9.9]45  Bob's Armory Oblivion.esp46  FCOM_BobsArmory.esp  [Version 0.9.9]47  Oblivion WarCry EV.esp48  FCOM_WarCry.esp  [Version 0.9.9]49  Oscuro's_Oblivion_Overhaul.esp  [Version 1.34]4A  FCOM_Convergence.esp  [Version 0.9.9]++  FCOM_EntropicOrderRebalance.esp  [Version 0.9.9beta2]4B  FCOM_RealSwords.esp  [Version 0.9.9]++  FCOM_SpawnRatesSlightlyReduced.esp  [Version 0.9.9]++  FCOM_SaferRoads.esp  [Version 0.9.9]++  Mart's Monster Mod - Looting NPCs & Creatures.esp  [Version 3.7b1]4C  Mart's Monster Mod - Dungeons of MMM.esp  [Version 3.7b1]++  TamrielTravellerAdvscript.esp  [Version 1.39c]4D  TamrielTravellers4OOO.esp  [Version 1.39c]4E  TamrielTravellersItemsCobl.esp  [Version 1.39c]4F  ShiveringIsleTravellers.esp  [Version 1.39c]++  ShiveringIsleTravellersFriendlyFactions4MMM.esp  [Version 1.39c]++  FCOM_TamrielTravelers.esp  [Version 0.9.9]++  FCOM_DiverseGuardUnity.esp  [Version 0.9.9]++  FCOM_BobsGuardUnity.esp  [Version 0.9.9]50  TIE In.esp  [Version 1.2b]51  TIE In - FCOM Convergence.esp  [Version 1.2b]++  MMM-Cobl.esp  [Version 1.69]52  Cyrodill Travel Services.esp  [Version 1.2]53  DLCfrostcrag.esp54  DLCFrostcrag - Unofficial Patch.esp  [Version 1.0.4]**  Ulrim's Horses.esp55  Knights.esp56  Knights - Unofficial Patch.esp  [Version 1.0.9]++  Ulrim's Horses - Knights patch.esp++  FCOM_Knights.esp  [Version 0.9.9]57  ElsweyrAnequina.esp58  road+bridges.esp  [Version 4.4.4]59  xuldarkforest.esp  [Version 1.0.2]5A  xulStendarrValley.esp  [Version 1.2]5B  xulTheHeath.esp5C  XulEntiusGorge.esp5D  xulFallenleafEverglade.esp  [Version 1.3]5E  xulColovianHighlands_EV.esp5F  xulChorrolHinterland.esp  [Version 1.2.2]60  xulBeachesOfCyrodiilLostCoast.esp  [Version 1.6.2]61  xulBravilBarrowfields.esp  [Version 1.3.1]62  xulLushWoodlands.esp  [Version 1.3]63  xulAncientYews.esp64  xulAncientRedwoods.esp  [Version 1.6]65  xulCloudtopMountains.esp  [Version 1.0.1]66  xulArriusCreek.esp67  xulPatch_AY_AC.esp  [Version 1.1]68  xulRollingHills_EV.esp  [Version 1.3.2]69  xulPantherRiver.esp6A  xulRiverEthe.esp6B  xulBrenaRiverRavine.esp  [Version 1.0.2]6C  xulImperialIsle.esp  [Version 1.6.1]6D  xulBlackwoodForest.esp6E  NRB4+UL-II Patch.esp  [Version 4.1]6F  Oblivion Gate Map Marker Remover.esp  [Version 1.1.0]++  FCOM_UnofficialFranArmorAddon.esp  [Version 0.9.9]70  Drop Lit Torches Weight.esp  [Version 1.6]71  DS Portable Sorters.esp  [Version 1.1]72  Dungeon Actors Have Torches 1.6 DT.esp73  ImmersiveWait.esp74  P1DkeyChain.esp  [Version 5.00]75  Salmo the Baker, Cobl.esp  [Version 3.08]++  ScriptIcon_Replacer.esp76  Enhanced Vegetation [125%].esp77  talkwithyourhands2.esp78  RealSleepExtended.esp  [Version 2.1]79  MidasSpells.esp7A  StealthOverhaul.esp7B  Enhanced Grabbing.esp  [Version 0.4]7C  Adrenaline Fuelled Archery- Bow Sway.esp7D  Deadly Reflex 5 - Timed block and 150% damage.esp7E  DeadlyReflex 5 - Combat Moves.esp7F  Let There Be Darkness - Cyrodiil + SI.esp80  Let There Be Darkness - Knights.esp81  Let There Be Darkness - Mehrunes Razor.esp++  Item interchange - Placement for FCOM.esp  [Version 0.74]++  Item interchange - Placement for Frostcrag Reborn.esp  [Version 0.74]++  Mart's Monster Mod - Resized Races.esp  [Version 3.7b1]82  Cobl Races.esp  [Version 1.52]**  Cobl Races TNR.esp  [Version 1.53]**  Cobl Races TNR SI.esp  [Version 1.53]83  Better Cities - Full City Defences.esp84  Better Cities Full.esp85  Better Cities - Unique Landscape Barrowfields.esp86  Better Cities - Unique Landscape Chorrol Hinterland.esp87  Better Imperial City.esp88  Better Cities - COBL.esp  [Version 0]++  _No__persistant_enchantment_glow_fix-1843.esp89  Forward Motion Blur.esp8A  Get Wet.esp8B  GW71_Life_Detect.esp8C  MotionBlur.esp8D  NRB4 Standard Road Record.esp++  Cobl Filter Late MERGE ONLY.esp  [Version 1.53]8E  Cobl Silent Equip Misc.esp  [Version 01]8F  Bashed Patch, 0.esp90  Streamline 3.1.esp91  Disable_Weapon_Membrane_Shaders-3127.esp92  Docile Aminals.esp93  NoLoadMessage.esp94  NoOblivionWeatherOutside.esp95  SoundscaperNOSI.esp

» Fri May 13, 2011 4:11 pm

It is looking better, but you need to do something about those mods that were left at the bottom after streamline. The BOSS Log should have them listed under unrecognized mods. Get rid of the animals mod because FCOM takes care of that. Install MMM's More Passive Wildlife optional plugin instead. I do not know what those other plugins do, so get rid of those last three for now. Get rid of that no persistent glow fix, and use http://www.tesnexus.com/downloads/file.php?id=5138instead. It is compatible with FCOM/OOO. Remove DLT Weight because it is probably not compatible with OOO. Get rid of Hrmn's Script Optimization because it is buggy and does not actually do much of anything to help performance. Use http://www.tesnexus.com/downloads/file.php?id=16704 to identify the owners of the missing meshes and correct your installation of the relevant mod. You need to install http://www.google.com/url?sa=t&source=web&ct=res&cd=1&ved=0CAgQFjAA&url=http%3A%2F%2Fobse.silverlock.org%2F&ei=gA_BS5SFL4K8lQeJxonbBA&usg=AFQjCNH8XIX2DHFotAglNGVXhXsXuHxz0w&sig2=lJTaO55ojsj79g8BNQmH-w for FormID Finder.