i just got Ren's Elves and im having trouble with the eyes. for some reason i can only use Ren's eyes! ive been trying other mods that might let me use different eyes for that race but they wont work at all, not even the beautiful people mod is working for me, can someone help me out with this?

http://sites.google.com/site/oblivionpoinfo/troubleshooting/postlo Ren's full mod is not compatible with BP.

You should really skip Beautiful People. It doesn't play nicely with other race mods. I'd recommend using Cobl Races or Race Balancing Project instead. Also, the Bashed Patch is excellent regarding this (as so much else), as you can merge eyes/hairs from different mods. Before the Bashed Patch it was a mess of incompatibilities to use several race mods at once (which necessitated Beautiful People in the first place).

i just installed oblivion after getting a new comp so i dont have many mods. i used ren's beauty pack and beautiful people before and i never recalled having these problems at all.

Oblivion.esm
. Note: Masterlist Information: $Revision: 788 $, $Date: 2010-04-02 12:04:08 -0700 (Fri, 02 Apr 2010) $, $LastChangedBy: pacificmorrowind $

Unofficial Oblivion Patch.esp
. Note: Recommend installing UOP hotfix for additional fixes: http://www.tesnexus.com/downloads/file.php?id=27710
. Bashed Patch tag suggestion: {{BASH:Actors.AIData,Actors.AIPackages,Actors.CombatStyle,Actors.DeathItem,Actors.Stats,C.Climate,C.Light,C.Name,C.Owner,Creatures.Blood,Delev,Factions,Invent,Names,Relations,Relev,Scripts,Stats}} and remove the C.Water tag (only exist in older version).
. Note: Remember to use the 'MOBS' version when using Francesco's or FCOM.
. Note: Newest MOBS and non-MOBS versions have the same name.

UOP Vampire Aging & Face Fix.esp

Oblivion Citadel Door Fix.esp

Natural_Weather_by_Max_Tael.esp
. Note: Original mod is heavily bugged. Make sure you are using Ryu Doppler's fixed version.

Natural_Weather_HDR_by_Max_Tael.esp
. Note: Original mod is heavily bugged. Make sure you are using Ryu Doppler's fixed version.

Natural_Habitat_by_Max_Tael.esp

Natural_Water_by_Max_Tael.esp

Natural_Vegetation_by_Max_Tael.esp
. Note: Put before Unique Landscape mods to return tree sizes there to normal.

Alternative Start by Robert Evrae.esp
. Bashed Patch tag suggestion: {{BASH:Relations}}

ElaborateEyes.esp
. Bashed Patch tag suggestion: {{BASH:Eyes}} and deactivate.

_Ren_BeautyPack_full.esp
. Bashed Patch tag suggestion: {{BASH:NpcFaces,Hair,Eyes,Graphics}}

Beautiful People.esp

Isn't Ren included in Beautiful People? I thought so, but it was years ago I used it.

I thought it was. It was included at one point anyway... The problem is that BP uses the E mesh, while Ren's uses the vanilla mesh. The BP version must've included Elaborate Eyes-compatible Ren's eyes.

i dont really know much about mods or anything technical like that at all. not to be pushy but does anyone have an answer to my problem? i really want to get to making my charactor.

I'm pretty sure elaborate eyes adds a new eye mesh, which would be whats causing your problem. so either youll have to remove rens elves, or elaborate eyes. Id suggest removing elaborate eyes, since you wont be able to use any race mod that uses eye textures for the normal mesh if you leave this installed.Unless you learn to tweak the mods to use elaborate eyes.

If you decide to remove elaborate eyes, you'll need to not only deactivate the esp from the eye mod, but you'll need to delete the eye mesh as well. It will be in "Data\Meshes\Characters\Imperial" i believe. Deleting the textures would also be a good idea, im not sure if they replace the original textures, if they do then youll defiantly need to remove them or youll have a problem with vanilla races eyes. If you used OBMM to install it, then all you have to do is deactivate it.

I would suggest using something like RBG( race balancing project), or cobl races( a lighter version of rbg). It includes rens mystic elves and new eyes that use the vanilla mesh, this way their compatible with any future race mods you install.

Alright tyvm

im having a bit of trouble installing RBG, and i cant even find the Cobl races mod. Can someone help me out with this?

nevermind, i just installed RBG properly but im still having trouble with the eyes...

Xarmus,

Ren's Beauty Pack is already included in full in Beautiful People, and it even integrates all of the hair and eye options into the default vanilla races. If you're going to use Beautiful People, then remove Ren's Beauty Pack. Vice versa. Pick one.

What is RBG? What are you trying to install? Could you post your load order again, please?

i followed prime monkys advice and installed RBG, ( race balancing project)

Now that you've downloaded the RBG file from one of the mirrors, you also need Cobl and the Cosmetic Expansion Pack.

Download Cobl here: http://www.tesnexus.com/downloads/file.php?id=21104
Only download the file in the Main Files section. Then scroll on down to the Optional Files section and download the Cosmetics Resource Pack. Then, when you install Cobl, you will need to select the appropriate options.

and then my eyes will finally be back to normal?

I gave you incorrect instructions.

You have several options here:

1. Install Ren's Beauty Pack ONLY.
2. Install Beautiful People ONLY.
3. If you wish, in addition to having these above races, you can install Cobl.
4. If you are not using Ren's Beauty Pack or Beautiful People, then you can install the Cosmetic Resource Pack. Then, when you install Cobl, you must select the Cobl Races Balanced option.
5. If you want to install either 1. or 2. along with 4., then you will need to download Wrye Bash, and if you choose to do that, then I can walk you through it.

In short, I would simply choose number 2., and not install anything else. Especially not Ren's Beauty Pack, which is already included in the Beautiful People mod.

Alright then. do you mind if i send you a message directly instead of posting here if i have any more problems?

No, although I might like someone else more experienced to correct me if I'm wrong first.

You are almost correct. The point is, you cannot have more than one cosmetic mod affecting the vanilla races ACTIVE at the same time. The problem with Ren's mod and BP is that they use different eye meshes, and Bash cannot help you with that. You need to find the EE version of Ren's mod, which does exist on TESNexus. That is the only version that you could use Bash to help run Ren's mod with BP.

Edit: I just check http://www.tesnexus.com/downloads/file.php?id=5175. I already includes Ren's Eyes and hairs, so I do not know why you are trying to install them together anyway...