Thats what I was thinking.

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If that was your everyday CoD clone I would agree, but it is not.

Well, I'll enjoy my ADS using foes, standing still so to say, ding ding ding. :happy:

I'll happily spray you down in any game.

spraying doesnt usually give good result against skilled players who actually know how to aim

Conversely, standing still or moving slowly doesn't usually give good results when someone is strafe-spraying you. Best to use both when the situation calls for them.

Skilled sprayers knows how to use the terrain to their advantage.

So do skilled snipers. I'll adapt to you, so either adapt in return, or fall before you figure out where I am.

On the very edge of the map, 1 pixel small and think you are useful to your team? :rolleyes:

No providing covering fire as your team advancing. Only noob snipers camp the edges.

I have no idea where in my post did you see anything referencing PC players. sprayers arent necessarily the people who use hip-f. its the ones that shoot aimlessly and hope to hit something. those just tend to be hip fire people, but sometimes even ADS shooters. but again, nothing on pc. please dont put words in my mouth. specially ones that lead to flame wars.

From my own experience, a snipers value to the team decreases/increases by the skill of the enemy team.

I'll weaken you so my team can plow through your "defense". I'll down you before you can beat my medic to a downed ally. If your guy is running off with the objective, I'll down him.



If downing and killing the other team didn't help complete the objective, we wouldn't have guns. I'm gonna use mine however it's needed.

ADS or not, people will still kill with the amount d experience they have. Some people prefer hipfire only. And they still are beasts. It is all preference.

ADS makes your shots more accurate because you're looking through sights down the barrel. It's the same as holding a basketball to your chest before shooting it instead of putting it behind your back and hurling it like a catapult.

Catapults are rare throughout NBA history. Likewise, I'm not gonna hip-fire for fun, I'll only do it when I need to and ADS would be impractical.

Yes. Well put.

Well when u have a gatling itd b pretty hard to ADS

You're not supposed to use the sights when firing a machine gun. It's no more accurate than eye-balling it, and once you fire the first round, you just adjust off that.

Not to mention, you're probably using a machine gun against some serious threat, so you don't want to focus down the sights on only one target. By eye-balling your aim, you maintain situational awareness and nothing infront of you surprises you.

eh i would ADS a Browning M2 with telescopic sight, before .50 BMG were invented, the farthest kill was done by Carlos Hathcock, Marine Gunnery SGT. in 1967 set longest distance kill at 2,286 m (2,500 yd), he used a Browning M2 with Unerti scope.

So I've read. I never put a scope on it, but I've shot the M2 Browning machine gun, and the installed sight will NOT work for anything that isn't touching the muzzle of the M2.

I'm impressed if you recited that from memory, I didn't find it that important. Interesting, but not worth memorizing, to me. So, good on ya.

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i memorized part of it, had to look up the hard details, but you are right though with the M134, use the tracers and eyeball the aim after that. to me it seems that SD knows how to balance the game correctly:

#1: stating the game isn't realistic allows people to survive multiple head shots and withstand grenades.
#2: allowing hip fire to be somewhat accurate allows people that are new to the game be able to stand toe-toe with other casuals
#3: ADS is definitely more accurate than hip fire and will draw the line between casuals and hard-cores.
#4: the near limitless customizations allow the influence of meta-game (strategies on builds and abilities)
#5: Wraith nuff said...

As someone pointed out in another of these threads once: Is it still "Spray & Pray" if hip-fire is actually accurate?
Personally, I like the idea by now. It takes just as much skill to aim without ADS as with.

And no straight thinking person would pull up the sights at a 5-10m distance.

Where do you get the idea from that hipfire is for casuals and ADS for hardcoes?
The two most competitive and hardcoe FPS games out there (CS and Quake Live) only have hipfire available.

When hipfire is accurate it requires just as much skill as ADS, since it is no random spraying.