i dunno,i figure id pick this of the following reasons


1)We know VERY little about Pre War America,The only sources we have are terminals,god knows how old ghouls,and Mr.House,all who are...little less forthcoming with information
2) We dont know about the other countries,what happened to them when the atomic fire engulfed the earth? did they have vaults?


I figure this


Your a US citizen,the year is 2077,the month is September,the Day is the 1st.As the War in Alaska is ongoing,rumors you hear say there will be a nuclear exchange.You are in shock,there is a vault nearby,but you dont think you can afford it,and what about your family? can they get in too? But what if i want to join the Army,I might get shipped to China,or worse,Alaska. Soon,its October 22nd.Its almost halloween,you go to check your mail,and there it,youve been accepted into vault (insert number here) your overjoyed,as you go to tell your wife,A man in a military uniform comes up to you,soon you realise hes here to draft you,as you ponder excuses,you say your with the government,and he goes to the next house.Now the rest,is up to you.

Then it's not fallout

Did you not read "October 22nd" does the 23rd ring a bell?

if it doesnt,you should be ashamed calling yourself a fallout fan.

America was invading China by the time of October 23,2077.

Pre-War is not Fallout.

Bethesda does not want to go back in the timeline with their games.

"The details are trivial and pointless, the reason as always purely human ones."

True, but sounds like the OP is proposing an early part of the storyline. Not all of it. Bethesda should do what G.S.C did with STALKER Clear Sky - and release a game with events happening before earlier release of the STALKER game (Shadow of Chernobyl)

So something like the Character in FO4 ends up being put into cryogenics stays on the they day before October 23, 2077? Wakes up over 200 years later? Like http://fallout.wikia.com/wiki/Dobbs from FO2? Something like that could work I guess but I don't want the game to create a back story for me like FO3 did.

I also don't like the idea of pre-war fighting/combat Operation Anchorage games or DLC. I don't want to know who shot first in the Great War. Or Vaults with people in still living in them after 200 years.

Intro Character is in a research building and the scientists are talking to him/her about the experiment. About how they are testing the effects of Cryogenicts. Day they freeze you October 22, 2077. Power supply to the chamber your in finally dies 200 plus years and you awake.

It doesn't necessarily have to give a backstory. I can see an epic introduction to the game followed by a even-more epic cutscene of the start of the great war and seeing the pre-war world fall to desolation.

It could work very well if it was done right. I personally think that a game that occurs right after the war could be very good. Thats my opinion though.

What would the motivation be for someone that was pre-war finding themselves 200 plus years in the future? Other then Exploration?

I don't know really but thats what I mean when I say "If it could be done well". They would need to make a decent story/plot behind it and give it meaning and purpose. In other words they would need to make it a good Fallout game. It might be implausible to do it, but I certainly don't think its impossible.

where can a person find fallout 1 and 2 and they have pre war stuff so idk but that would be cool if we knew what war this was all started by ww3 or ww2 or a random war and in fo3 how do you get back into vault 101

Bethesda sells FO1,FO2 and Tactics in a pack. I have the originals so I don't know where a good place to buy them today. The http://fallout.wikia.com/wiki/Fallout_Wiki has pretty good info about Fallout. Getting back into Vault 101. Around the time you find dad or the Enclave take you around then Amata will send out a radio signal giving you a code to get back in.

Basically any major store such as Wal Mart, Target or K Mart, probably Gamestop but I'm not sure.

As for Fallout 4 being in Pre War America, I don't think it would work. Why? Well it wouldn't be "Fallout", by that I mean there won't be any of the factions we know of, or any settlements and I wouldn't see how a game like that would sit nicely with the other Fallouts. Bad reason I know but its kinda a hard concept to think about and plus me not being fully up to date with the originals, my opinion means little.

Edit: I don't know, it would basically be an alternative to CoD: Modern Warfare

There will be no pre-war Fallouts. Bethesda is very strict on the "The timeline can only move forward!" policy to the point that even Obsidian was not allowed to go back into the past.

I don't why people insist that it wouldn't be Fallout, I mean there's a lot of stuff from the Star Wars Expanded Universe which has very little to do with the 6 3 films but it's still considered to be Star Wars material. Also, if we keep using the old factions then the whole experience would become stale and repetitive.

The factions are merely residents in the Fallout universe, not the other way around. So what is the Fallout universe? It's an alternate timeline with no superconductors but great leaps forward in other technological realms, mainly nuclear power and robotics. Culturally the world is (was) a 50s retro-future/world of tomorrow style place with suitable clothing, music, food, entertainment and architecture. However this world ran out of resources and plunged into nuclear war, mutating the landscape and creatures within it. THAT is Fallout, the NCR, BoS, Enclave etcetera are just factions who have arisen from this universe, they shape the universe, yes, but they are not the reason for it's existence, the universe is the reason for their existence.

Why would they say that? That's like painting yourself into a corner. Each game is a story of 1 individuals experiences in the world of Fallout. I see no problem at all with jumping around the timeline.

Edit: in fact, I wouldn't mind starting the game off in one of the vaults that are doing one of the bizarre social experiments right after the bombs fell.. would be interesting.

A game could never take place before the war. Although, if there was a game where the day is October 23rd, you get up the morning to go to work, you create your character, you hear reports about the war in Anchorage, riots in Canada, starvation and the New Plague in many cities, and of course pro-USA and anti-communism propaganda. Then there's a sequence where you hear the reports (either from your radio or your black and white TV) are interupted for a message, whatever they say now, where they've just been informed that a few thousand nuclear missiles have just been launched from both sides, and the first ones will hit within 5 minutes on the west coast.

Mass hysteria, people panick, try to escape the cities, get to their Vaults or take cover in their basemants/underground shelters.

Then you get to play the months following after 3-hour nuclear missile exchange, dealing with anarchy, starvation, looting, killing, the New Plague, the first people ghoulifying, the first factions that emerge et cetera.


Or you're not in the city when it happens, you're outside it and it's night. You're several miles outside of a major city, on a hill with your girlfriend/boyfriend and your/his Chryslus Highwayman (you know men and their cars, especially in the 50's, so a female character would not own it) on a romantic lil picnic on the hood, watching the city lights. You go to get something from the backseat when the first bombs hit the city infront of you, your girlfriend/boyfriend, who had been staring right into the explosions, screams. He's/she's blind!

This. That is exactly the kind of thing I was thinking about.

I want to play :drool:

Just nitpicking here but by October 23,2077 America was deep in China. Made it all the way to the Yangtze River. War in Anchorage was long over.

Everything else I am not sure how it would work, no real factions to deal with just Chaos and alot of Radiation that would kill you very fast. Maybe as a Tactical Fallout :gun:

Ok then, war reports of the great progress of our boys in Power Armor deep in China

Yeah, it would be a lot of chaos and radiation, even more than in Fallout 3 (:o !!!) but I'm not in the position to come up with a great and believable storyline, factions and character in this world x) Someone smarter than me should do that. It's just that, I really liked Raul's story, and I imagined how his world looked like back then and all that.