(Ok, serious time here. I grew up near Detroit, and i know these buildings first hand, and this pics are a good example of why i think the Detroit/Windsor Canada area, or the Chicago/Gary area, and the great lakes would make a wonderful spot for Fallout 4, so much urban blight, just imagine what would be waiting in places like these.....) :chaos: :fallout:

Before that.....it began with the race riots in the '60s. That started middle and upper class people moving out, which enabled a particular clique in the Democrat Party, led by a fellow named Coleman Young, to take over.....once Mayor he started a deliberate campaign to drive his perceived enemies out of the city by hiking property and business taxes while cutting police protection. Then the Big Three automakers started getting shellacked by the Japanese in the late 70s and '80s, and before you know it Detroit is a basket case. The current Mayor is making a heroic effort to try to turn things around, but I think it's too late. They're actually talking about demolishing entire areas of the city and turning them back into farmland now.

:hubbahubba: Detroit would be great because of the culture of the car.