"I'm so happy, I could tear out your intestines and strangle you with them!"

"Ta! Come visit again! Or I'll pluck out your eyes."

"What is important is getting to Xedilian. Quickly. Before I get bored. You wouldn't like me when I'm bored."

"Why not? Something has to work. Once, I dug a pit and filled it with clouds. Or was it clowns? Doesn't matter. It didn't slow him down. To be honest, it wasn't the best idea. And it really began to smell. Must have been clowns. Clouds don't smell bad. They taste of butter! And tears."

"So, which is it? What will it be? Mania? Dementia? The suspense is killing me. Or you, if I have to keep waiting."

"You've probably figured that out by now. Let's hope so. Or we're in real trouble... and out come the intestines. And I skip rope with them!"

"A little busy here! I'm trying to decide what to have for dinner. Oh, how I love eating. One of my favorite things to do. Talk to Haskill if you need more information. He's got more brains than a brain pie. Oh... Brain pie! Perfect! Care to donate?"

Those are dark enough, aren't they? What did players expect Sheogorath to do, actually rip out the intestines of his champion?

Here is what the UESP has to say, and I agree with it:

"Sheogorath typically manifests on Nirn as a seemingly harmless, well-dressed male, much to the surprise of many mortals. The reasoning behind his appearance is to lead unsuspecting mortals down the path to insanity, the "Golden Road"."

He needs his champion to mantle him and he needs to lead his champion down the path of insanity without him/her knowing. Did people expect Sheogorath to look like a demonic beast and then rip your heart out and eat it? Did people expect him to let his champion know he's a monster. Why do that, to scare the champion away? The Isles themselves represent Sheogorath's dark side, and people act as if Bethesda just forgot their own lore, when in fact, it is others who have not studied Bethesda's lore well enough. He lures people into insanity, and he needed his champion to come, ignorant of what is happening. Was the Hill of Suicides not enough to show just how twisted Sheogorath is?

No, because they're all punch lines accompanying a joke. Sheogorath is just viewed as a joke in SI.


Like I said in the linked thread, insanity can't be controlled.



The isles represet Sheogorath. If his realm depicts demented evil, so should his personality. EVERY other Daedric Prince has that.



For a good reason.



No.

The book which you referred to was made for SI. He is not just one, big joke, but when Bethesda actually manages to put humor into their games, bravo.

Then why does Sheogorath choose his form, as a well-dressed man? Insanity is not stupidity. Jyggalag very clearly implies insanity can't be controlled. He hates being Sheogorath for the fact that he can't control the insanity that comes with it, and Sheogorath obviously came up with some ridiculous solutions(hole full of clowns). That doesn't mean that he can't successfully think and eventually come up with a plan. Insanity is never controlled, but to lure people into insanity, you must mask it in the first place so that person doesn't know they are going insane.

Those musical instruments made of bones really don't show any of that darkness, do they? Ripping out your intestines doesn't count as dark, or nearly uncontrolled insanity(he has to be able to have some control over himself)? How about threatening to kill you for not making up your mind quickly? Yes, he is funny, but when he said those things, he didn't mean them as just a joke. By the way, EVERY other prince has never revealed their realms. Azura is a spoiler brat, but she doesn't always show it. Most people think she is a kind prince who cares for her followers, and that's how she gains followers, with an illusion. The same is true for Sheogorath(but with a different illusion, that of a wealthy and civilized man). Why worship a guy who just wants to randomly rip apart people?

Seti has a good point, you can be insane, but very intelligent. I actually write about an insane khajiit mage who is very intelligent.

Paranoid Schizophrenic Arsonists with no sense of mortality aren't neccessarily stupid, either.


What? If insanity can't be controlled, why is he controlling it? :rolleyes:


Bethesda did.


I suggest you read "http://www.uesp.net/wiki/Lore:The_Doors_of_Oblivion". A good read that explains every princes realm but Jyggalag's. (for obvious reasons)

I believe one of the trademarks of insanity are people who appear fine on the outside, but are clearly strange when you learn more about them.

Perhaps me and Hircine should take this down to the lore section. I don't want to hi-jack your thread.

I posted a link earlier.

It's perfectly fine, my question has been answered.

In my game, the player character was from a distant continent (Akavir?) and arrived to Morrowind on a science expedition. He then travelled back home and later came to Cyrodiil.

My Nerevarine performed some quests for Azura, but she wasn't the Prince's tool. Their paths just coincided for a time.

The Cake Is A Lie.