help with constant ctd's

Post » Sat May 28, 2011 9:42 am

Hello,

I'm about 20 hours into a new game and am getting tired of the constant ctd's heres my mod load list:

001 Morrowind.esm
002 Bloodmoon.esm
003 Tribunal.esm
004 Morrowind Patch 1.6.5 Beta (BTB Edit).esm
005 Better Heads.esm
006 Better Heads Tribunal addon.esm
007 Better Heads Bloodmoon addon.esm
008 Lgnpc_SN.esp (Version 0.31)
009 Join All Houses.esp
010 LGNPC_NoLore_v0_83.esp (Version 0.83)
011 Better Bodies.esp
012 DB_Attack_Mod.esp
013 Windows Glow.esp
014 abotWindowsGlow.esp (Version 1.1)
015 Galsiahs Character Development.esp
016 GCD StartScript for Trib or Bloodmoon.esp
017 GCD better balanced birthsigns.esp
018 GCD Over 60 level speedup.esp
019 GCD Restore Potions Fix.esp
020 Brittlewind fix.esp
021 Book Jackets - Morrowind.esp
022 Book Jackets - Tribunal.esp
023 Book Jackets - Bloodmoon.esp
024 Less_Generic_Bloodmoon.esp (Version 1.2)
025 LGNPC_GnaarMok_v1_10.esp (Version 1.10)
026 LGNPC_MaarGan_v1_20.esp (Version 1.20)
027 LGNPC_AldVelothi_v1_20.esp (Version 1.20)
028 LGNPC_HlaOad_v1_32.esp (Version 1.32)
029 Creatures.esp
030 LGNPC_Aldruhn_v1_20.esp (Version 1.20)
031 LGNPC_Aldruhn_v1_20_suppl.esp
032 LGNPC_Pelagiad_v1_22.esp (Version 1.22)
033 LGNPC_TelMora_v1_20.esp (Version 1.20)
034 LGNPC_Khuul_v2_10.esp (Version 2.10)
035 LGNPC_VivecFQ_v2_10.esp (Version 2.10)
036 LGNPC_TelUvirith_v1_20.esp (Version 1.20)
037 LGNPC_SecretMasters_v1_30.esp (Version 1.30)
038 LGNPC_IndarysManor_v1_51.esp (Version 1.51)
039 LGNPC_VivecRedoran_v1_50.esp (Version 1.50)
040 Less_Generic_Nerevarine.esp (Version 1.21)
041 LGNPC_PaxRedoran_v1_20.esp (Version 1.20)
042 LGNPC_SoulSicknessPatch_v1_00.esp (Version 1.00)
043 Bloated Caves.esp
044 Graphic Herbalism.esp
045 Graphic Herbalism Extra.esp
046 Less_Generic_Tribunal.esp
047 Windows Glow - Tribunal Eng.esp
048 Windows Glow - Bloodmoon Eng.esp
049 Windows Glow - Raven Rock Eng.esp
050 WA_Signy_Signposts(!).ESP
051 The Imperial Legion Badge.esp
052 Mashed Lists.esp
053 Merged_Objects.esp


Can anyone see anything wrong with my list? I've read all the readme's and cant find where anything might be causing an issue. The game is playable, and I cant pinpoint what causes it to crash. I might be able to play for 2 hours without a crash one day, but the next have the game crash 6 times in the first hour.


Thanks in advance for any help!
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Bedford White
 
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Post » Sat May 28, 2011 3:15 pm

Hello,

I'm about 20 hours into a new game and am getting tired of the constant ctd's heres my mod load list:

001 Morrowind.esm
002 Bloodmoon.esm
003 Tribunal.esm
004 Morrowind Patch 1.6.5 Beta (BTB Edit).esm
005 Better Heads.esm
006 Better Heads Tribunal addon.esm
007 Better Heads Bloodmoon addon.esm
008 Lgnpc_SN.esp (Version 0.31)
009 Join All Houses.esp
010 LGNPC_NoLore_v0_83.esp (Version 0.83)
011 Better Bodies.esp
012 DB_Attack_Mod.esp
013 Windows Glow.esp
014 abotWindowsGlow.esp (Version 1.1)
015 Galsiahs Character Development.esp
016 GCD StartScript for Trib or Bloodmoon.esp
017 GCD better balanced birthsigns.esp
018 GCD Over 60 level speedup.esp
019 GCD Restore Potions Fix.esp
020 Brittlewind fix.esp
021 Book Jackets - Morrowind.esp
022 Book Jackets - Tribunal.esp
023 Book Jackets - Bloodmoon.esp
024 Less_Generic_Bloodmoon.esp (Version 1.2)
025 LGNPC_GnaarMok_v1_10.esp (Version 1.10)
026 LGNPC_MaarGan_v1_20.esp (Version 1.20)
027 LGNPC_AldVelothi_v1_20.esp (Version 1.20)
028 LGNPC_HlaOad_v1_32.esp (Version 1.32)
029 Creatures.esp
030 LGNPC_Aldruhn_v1_20.esp (Version 1.20)
031 LGNPC_Aldruhn_v1_20_suppl.esp
032 LGNPC_Pelagiad_v1_22.esp (Version 1.22)
033 LGNPC_TelMora_v1_20.esp (Version 1.20)
034 LGNPC_Khuul_v2_10.esp (Version 2.10)
035 LGNPC_VivecFQ_v2_10.esp (Version 2.10)
036 LGNPC_TelUvirith_v1_20.esp (Version 1.20)
037 LGNPC_SecretMasters_v1_30.esp (Version 1.30)
038 LGNPC_IndarysManor_v1_51.esp (Version 1.51)
039 LGNPC_VivecRedoran_v1_50.esp (Version 1.50)
040 Less_Generic_Nerevarine.esp (Version 1.21)
041 LGNPC_PaxRedoran_v1_20.esp (Version 1.20)
042 LGNPC_SoulSicknessPatch_v1_00.esp (Version 1.00)
043 Bloated Caves.esp
044 Graphic Herbalism.esp
045 Graphic Herbalism Extra.esp
046 Less_Generic_Tribunal.esp
047 Windows Glow - Tribunal Eng.esp
048 Windows Glow - Bloodmoon Eng.esp
049 Windows Glow - Raven Rock Eng.esp
050 WA_Signy_Signposts(!).ESP
051 The Imperial Legion Badge.esp
052 Mashed Lists.esp
053 Merged_Objects.esp


Can anyone see anything wrong with my list? I've read all the readme's and cant find where anything might be causing an issue. The game is playable, and I cant pinpoint what causes it to crash. I might be able to play for 2 hours without a crash one day, but the next have the game crash 6 times in the first hour.


Thanks in advance for any help!

Use the exe optimizer.

the 64 bit patch might also delay them (if they are caused by a memory leak).
Another thing to try is a progressive binary search to locate the crashing mod if the culprit is a mod:
disable half the list, if it still crashes, disable half that list, if it doesn't change lists and disable half the other list goto 1

And this kids, is why releasing the source code of games is a good idea.
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Shannon Lockwood
 
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Post » Sat May 28, 2011 10:12 am

Are you using the Code Patch?
Are you using any programs alongside Morrowind? (MGE, MWE, MWSE, etc)
Is your computer able to handle the game?
Has Mlox checked your Load Order?
Have you tried the http://www.ntcore.com/4gb_patch.php?

There are so many variables to consider. But your list of mods looks OK, nothing immediately stands-out as problematic to my eyes.
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Janeth Valenzuela Castelo
 
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Post » Sat May 28, 2011 5:43 am

Are you using the Code Patch?
Are you using any programs alongside Morrowind? (MGE, MWE, MWSE, etc)
Is your computer able to handle the game?
Has Mlox checked your Load Order?
Have you tried the http://www.ntcore.com/4gb_patch.php?

There are so many variables to consider. But your list of mods looks OK, nothing immediately stands-out as problematic to my eyes.


I just installed the FPS optimizer. I'll give that a try tomorrow and see if it helps. I'm not using anything like MGE, MWSE, etc... Im running it under XP. My laptop runs it fine, but will CTD for no apparent reason sometimes. Like I said, it may happen alot in 1 day, or barely at all. I've gotten a few BSOD's as well.

Anyways, thanks for the quick replies, and I'll let you know how it works.
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Elina
 
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Post » Sat May 28, 2011 12:55 pm

Morrowind will sometimes just CTD for no immediately discernible reason. I blame gremlins, although I'm sure there's a more technical answer involving resource management and reference IDs and so on. Speaking of reference IDs...if you don't have it already, please do yourself the favor of installing the Morrowind Code Patch. One of the many problems the MCP hammers out is how the game (mis)handles local refs, which used to be the major source of CTDs for me in a heavily modded MW.

Are the BSODs happening when you're playing MW? That might point more to a problem with hardware, rather than mods.
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