Another small mod I made for personal use mostly, not sure if something like that already exists.



http://www.tesnexus.com/downloads/file.php?id=31163

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thanks

Now this is useful. FCOM + Arma + Artifact = thousands of weapons!

Great work! Off to tell BOSS team of a new one :bolt:

I wonder if you could use these figures to display a Damage Per Second calculation for a weapon? One for physical damage, one for magical damage?

A weapon really should be rated on the amount of damage it can deal over time (though single hit is most important for ammunition), it's reach, whether or not it ignores normal resistance.

How incredibly ironic. Just two days ago I was looking for a mod to do this. Never found one, so http://luchaire.gamersoasis.net/Oblivion/WI2.jpg And then you go and release this. I could have been saved a bit of time if you'd released this a few days ago hehe! :wavey:

Showing the result of Speed x Damage is no problem, good idea. Showing whether the 'ignore normal weapon resistance' flag is set is a good idea as well.



Lol, the last mod I released was requested two minutes before I posted the release thread. This time I was a bit late, sorry. I guess your screenshot shows a messagebox and not a 'real' UI implementation?

I wonder what people prefer - a messagebox or a message. A message is harder to read and doesn't look that nice, but if I use a messagebox you need to click 'ok' everytime after you're done watching the stats for a weapon. An UI implementation would be best of course, but I don't know if that is even possible.

Yeah, my implementation was to create a "Weapon Inspector" item that pops up the message box on use. Not terribly elegant but ... I had to throw *something* together since I was getting annoyed with not knowing those hidden stats of the zillions of weapons modded into my game. XD

I'd love a real UI implementation, but no idea how to go about it.

I had some code stashed somewhere in my old HDD that showed those stats as a part of the HUD, along with weight and gold value. Let me check to see if I managed to back it up before I turned that sodding slab in.

If the data is available.... seems to me like it could be implemented into the UI. Would require editing the xml files though..... Way beyond my meager skills.

OBSE for President, says I !

I've made a new version with damage/time, base damage and ignore resistance displayed as well. Unfortunately it seems that the time a message stays on the screen depends on the size of the message. It stays for about 6 seconds now before it changes (if a different weapon is selected) or vanishes, which is extremely annoying. If only the stupid time setting for messages would work. Or if it could be implemented into the UI. If you still have the mod it would be great to have, ShadeMe. Although I think it would be better to have the information in the inventory menu instead of the HUD since it is only really useful for comparing weapons you collected or you want to buy from a vendor. If you know how to do that would be great if you could share your knowledge.

I haven't tried messing with that part of the UI, but will take a look in any case. Perhaps also establish a framework to display such hidden stats for other inventory objects.

That would be great. I think it would fit well into the 'magic_popup_menu' (the one that shows enchantments and weapon/armor type right of the inventory). If you could add a divider above the enchantments (like the one that is below them by default) and put the hidden stats above that divider it would look neat and wouldn't take any additional space (except for the pop up being a bit larger than usual). I tried myself, but I failed. I could add another line, but it showed up on top of an existing one. No idea where to adjust the position for the lines.

Some ideas on what to display:

Weapons

Base Damage (damage value in the CS without modifiers like strength, skill etc)
Damage/Time (Speed * Base Damage for people bad at mental math)
Speed
Reach
Base Health
Ignores Normal Weapon Resistance (yes or no)

If there is any room left you could add weight and value as well for the sake of completeness. Also the current health like on Luchaire's screenshot might be a nice addition, although you can see the percentage already.

Armors

Base Health
Base Armor Rating (unmodified CS value)

And maybe current health, value and weight as well here.

I think that would be a really great addition to the game.

Very nice. I shall try this out. I can tell from reading this topic that the current version might annoy me a bit though (how long the message stays up).

The current version's message (the one that only displays speed, reach and health) doesn't stay for that long. Only the new version with all the other stuff added stays for ~6 seconds and I won't upload it unless I can fix it. But if ShadeMe can get the UI version working there is no need for this mod anyway and I'll remove it completely.

will keep an eye on this. just hope it works with darn and darkbirdy ui's

i think the dps thing gets overused a bit. it entirely depends on fighting style.....for instance a stealthy character who does hit and run attacks is going to want something with the highest initiial strike as opposed to an orc who wants something with higher dps. also i run a fair number of combat mods that make npcs dodge and move out of the way more so in that case weapons with high initial strike are preferable. DPS is more important for games like MMOs where essentially the two fighters just bash away at eachother with minimal movement. magic and poison are the only things i can think of that would matter in oblivion for DPS and those are already known.

Well, with melee weapons, the more times you can swing it, the better your chances of getting a hit.

Having both Base Damage and an estimated DPS calculation seems, by far, the best option for giving the player the information they need.

I don't know.... seems sorta redundant to me, if you have weapon speed displayed as well....

This mod sounds very useful. I hope to try this out when I get home.



Thanks Phitt.
- Tomlong75210

This question isn't directly related to this mod, per se, but some have mentioned editing the .xmls as a potential direction to take here, and I was wondering... how hard would it be to have equipment durability displayed as current health over total health instead of the percentage, like it was in Morrowind?

Should be possible.

Very useful mod Phitt! Thanks, will use!