The Greybeards Training

Post » Sat May 28, 2011 6:29 am

the greybeards from high hrothgar will give your player character dragon shout training, will they teach you other dragon powers?

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Marquis deVille
 
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Post » Sat May 28, 2011 9:56 am

Perhaps we may get perks from them.
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Lauren Denman
 
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Post » Sat May 28, 2011 3:03 pm

Question is "Do they know anything else than Thu′um ?".

I think that answers your question.
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Post » Sat May 28, 2011 8:39 am

Question is "Do they know anything else than Thu′um ?".

I think that answers your question.

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Post » Sat May 28, 2011 11:22 am

Obviously, our character is going to be subjected to several months of http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZSS5dEeMX64. :whistling:
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Post » Sat May 28, 2011 3:32 pm

Obviously, our character is going to be subjected to several months of http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZSS5dEeMX64. :whistling:


Best Disney movie ever :D Harsh enough to be nearly an advlt one, which is good for the children IMO.
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Post » Sat May 28, 2011 10:05 am

It should be like becoming a Jedi.
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Post » Sat May 28, 2011 3:17 pm

Did you need to make a new thread when I already talked about this in my http://www.gamesas.com/index.php?/topic/1161098-dragons-a-thread-to-discuss-all-things-about-skyrims-dragons/ thread? We could have had this discussion in there as I brought it up weeks ago. Can we have this merged?

Dragon Shouts
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My guess is you'll visit the Greybeards atop High Hrothgar, that is to assume you successfully manage to climb the 7,000 steps :P, and they will train you in the way of the tongues. Teaching you your first dragon shout. Which one? My guess is the one that act most like the Thu'um of Nord legends. The one that the god Shor taught mankind to use. First with King Harrald Hairy Breeks (used Thu'um), then with King Wulfharth who's thu'um was so powerful that he could not verbally swear into the office when elected by the Pact of Chieftains so scribes were used to draw up his oaths, and finally with Tiber Septim whom he visited at the battle of http://www.gamesas.com/index.php?/topic/1150358-skyrim-trailer-breakdown/page__view__findpost__p__16838257 and taught him Thu'um.

The power is a invisible push of staggering power that sends foes hurtling away from you staggered by the force of your yell. Spoken in the game, your hero will intone the three words for the full shout: “Fus, Ro, Dah!” Translated into English, “Fus” means force, “Ro” means balance, and “Dah” means push.

Then you must kill the dragons that are suppose to be a regular threat to unlock the ability to learn more shouts, As defeating a dragon has you absorb the soul of the fallen creature, which "fuels" the ability to learn a new shout. Then you visit ancient walls of draconic scripture and learn more words as you collect and become more powerful with your dragonshouts.

That's my take on it anyways.


“There are other people in the world who can use the dragon shouts, but it’s very rare. It’s like arcane knowledge. It used to be done more in the past,” Todd Howard explains. “The Greybeards know it. But your ability to absorb the dragon souls and do the shouts on the level that you can is beyond them.”

Atop a great mountain that rises above the tundra and forests of Skyrim known as The Throat of the World sits High Hrothgar. A settlement that is home to the Greybeards who live in absolute silence in order to better attune themselves to the voice of the sky. The ability to use the dragon language already existed in the fiction and lore of TES. It was called “Thu’um.” The concept roughly translates as “The Voice.” These mysterious old men will play a key part in the Dragonborn’s story. http://www.uesp.net/wiki/Lore:Thu%27um and the Dragonborn hero (you) must climb the 7,000 steps to reach the remote retreat and be trained by them.

These dragon shouts are the same source of power that launched the last line of emperors. Tiber Septim would use the dragon shouts to lead his troops into battle and unite Tamriel under one empire. (More on his history http://www.gamesas.com/index.php?/topic/1150358-skyrim-trailer-breakdown/page__st__100__p__16838257#entry16838257) Hundreds of years later, the Septim line has died out, and no other dragonborn have been seen for many years. That is, until the hero of Skyrim arrives on the scene.

Spoiler contains: 5 things I learned about the dragon shouts in past Lore of TES.
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1. Thu’um sounds badass and very powerful.
A long practiced spiritual form of Nordic magic, also known as the Tongues, that is based on their worship of the Wind as a personification of Kynareth. Through the use of the Voice the power of a Nord can be formed into a thu'um, or shout - which has a large variety of applications. Shouts can be used to sharpen blades or to strike enemies. A common effect is the shout that knocks an enemy back, or the power of command. A strong Nord can instill bravery in men with his battle-cry, or stop a charging warrior with a roar.

Master Voices (known simply as Tongues) have legendary, and often unbelievable powers. They can call to specific people over hundreds of miles, and can move by casting a shout, appearing where it lands. The most powerful masters must even be careful whenever they speak, as their voice can cause great destruction. They must go gagged, and communicate through a sign language and through scribing runes. The breath and the voice are the vital essence of a Nord.

Today, all Tongues live secluded lives on the highest peaks of Skyrim in tough conditions and contemplation, and have only spoken to announce the destiny of the great Tiber Septim.

2. When the Nords attack a city, they take no siege engines or cavalry; the Tongues form in a wedge in front of the gatehouse, and draw in breath. When the leader lets it out in a Thu'um, the doors are blown in, and the axemen rush into the city.

When they defeat great enemies they take their tongues as trophies. These are woven into ropes and can hold speech like an enchantment.

3. During the Conquest of Morrowind, the Nordic war chiefs were also Tongues (Derek the Tall, Jorg Helmborg, Hoag Merkiller). They needed no typical siege weapons when attacking a city as they merely used the Voice to break down the city gate and allow their armies to storm in. The future of the Tongues was forever changed by the most powerful Tongue, Jurgen Windcaller, also better known as the Calm. Jurgen converted to a pacifist and refused to use the Voice for any martial purposes. In a confrontation with 17 other tongues he reportedly swallowed the Shouts of the 17 for three days until they lay exhausted, later to become his followers.

The art of Thu-um as a weapon is now lost and forbidden. Apart from the students of the discredited School of Thu'um in the Imperial City, Tiber Septim was reputedly the last man to wield this power. However, the ancient Greybeards still sit atop the many steps leading to the peak of High Hrothgar. (Hints that this is the training you shall receive in Skyrim)

4. The further north you go into Skyrim, the more powerful and elemental the people become, and the less they require dwellings and shelters. Wind is fundamental to Skyrim and the Nords; those that live in the far wastes always carry a wind with them.

5. Nords consider themselves to be the children of the sky. They call Skyrim or rather the tallest mountain in Skyrim the Throat of the World, because http://www.imperial-library.info/content/morrowind-children-sky They believe that they were http://www.uesp.net/wiki/Lore:Nord when the sky breathed onto the peak of this mountain, where High Hrothgar stands. The religion of Skyrim is focused on the Aedra and their old ally, Lorkhan. The Nordic Akatosh is Alduin, a terrible, ravenous dragon who presides over the cycle of existence and devours the universe at intervals. His coming is feared by all pious Nords, and he is the object of (through Nordic eyes) perverse worship by the Altmer, who venerated Auri-El. In more recent days, it has been shown that the traditional Alduin can co-exist with the less adversarial Cyrodiilic interpretation of Akatosh the Time Dragon. Kyne is notably more assertive and warlike than the nature-loving Kynareth. Although Mara is present in her role as a mother goddess, it was Kyne who is the mother of the Nords. She is also credited with sending her son Morihaus (and perhaps Pelinal) to the aid of the Cyro-Nordic slaves in their uprising. The chief of the pantheon of Skyrim is Lorkhan, and he merits the most mention. The Nords know him as Shor. The king of the gods, a champion of men in their struggles against the elves. He was treacherously slain by elven devils, yet continues to bestow favor on his people by aiding them with immortal champions such as Ysmir, another member of the Nordic pantheon. Today, Ysmir is the name by which Nords recognize the divinity of Talos.

Spoiler Contains: My theory on Shor's connection to the Dovahkiin (Dragonborn) in Skyrim
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I posted this awhile back in my http://www.gamesas.com/index.php?/topic/1152130-the-story-behind-skyrim-v20/page__view__findpost__p__16865167 but I think it pertains to the topic of discussion so I'm going to re-post it.



Interesting take on things by the Nords huh?


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Post » Sat May 28, 2011 8:39 am

As long as you aren't subjected to seemingly useless quests Mr. Miyagi style... I'm hoping for Luke and Yoda training, with a dark cave confrontation at the end.

or this:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6iPFK5T_G3U
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Post » Sat May 28, 2011 2:59 pm

Perhaps the training should be more like the http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=iv&v=cqHp9vLCYzM&annotation_id=annotation_940942...
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Post » Sat May 28, 2011 8:12 am

Perhaps the training should be more like the http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=iv&v=cqHp9vLCYzM&annotation_id=annotation_940942...


Yeah but instead of swords it will be words.
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Post » Sat May 28, 2011 2:58 pm

Yeah but instead of swords it will be words.

Definitely. I remember in one of the GI updates stating that when Talos Septim went up to the Greybeards for training, citizens for miles had to clear due to the dragon shouts (they would cause avalanches and all sorts of destruction). The training needs to be intense (mentally and physically) and it needs to be meaningful to the player. By the time your training is over, you should feel and know you are a Dragonborn, and you should be more than capable of slaying dragons easier.
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Post » Sat May 28, 2011 5:38 pm

It should be like becoming a Jedi.

Perhaps the training should be more like the http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=iv&v=cqHp9vLCYzM&annotation_id=annotation_940942...

A mix of these would be epic.

PS. Empire Strikes Back and Batman Begins are awesome.
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Post » Sat May 28, 2011 12:58 pm

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=K5-bmJDlIsg
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