The origins of Karstaag

Post » Sat May 28, 2011 7:41 pm

Karstaag is a monster according to the mythological notion of what a monster is. I'm not talking about morality. And intelligence has nothing to do with it in either case. I've never heard it said that "so or so wasn't a retard, so he wasn't monstrous but sinister" or "so or so is a total idiot, let's call him a monster".


That really doesn't make any sense. What is their basis then, strictly physical appearance? Many regard Hitler as a monster due to his condemnable morality, however someone with grotesue facial deformities is not necessarily considered a monster even though they might be physically grotesque.
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Post » Sat May 28, 2011 3:40 pm

It makes perfect sense, on the contrary. It's your viewpoint that doesn't. You're basically saying that Karstaag is nothing else than a malformed human.

The Sphinx that Oedipus met was a monster. The Erinyes (or Furies), born from the blood of Ouranos, are monsters. The Tarasque is a monster. All of them can talk, according to their myths. All of them are fairly intelligent as well. But they're all monsters, that is their identity and their function.

You're getting completely caught up and mixed up in the many definitions of monsters. I did say I wasn't talking about the moral definition of a monster (such as Pol Pot, to give a less clich? example than Hitler), but the mythological one. And Karstaag is just that.
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Post » Sat May 28, 2011 11:44 am

It makes perfect sense, on the contrary. It's your viewpoint that doesn't. You're basically saying that Karstaag is nothing else than a malformed human.

The Sphinx that Oedipus met was a monster. The Erinyes (or Furies), born from the blood of Ouranos, are monsters. The Tarasque is a monster. All of them can talk, according to their myths. All of them are fairly intelligent as well. But they're all monsters, that is their identity and their function.

You're getting completely caught up and mixed up in the many definitions of monsters. I did say I wasn't talking about the moral definition of a monster (such as Pol Pot, to give a less clich? example than Hitler), but the mythological one. And Karstaag is just that.


Between the two arguments, my support goes to Gez. I mean, if I were a common Nord chillaxin' on Solstheim and I happened across some blue, twice-my-size, horned thing, I'm not going to contemplate it and think to myself, "Say, that is probably an intelligent, malformed human". No, I'm most likely going to yell my bloody head off and think, "By Ysmir, it's a MONSTER!!"

That is why I agree with Gez.

What is their basis then, strictly physical appearance?

yeppers. That and the lack of information on Karstaag. In the past, things like bats have been associated with evil rituals, etc, because people only saw little animals flying thru the night sky. Once people understood what bats actually were, the notion that "bats=evil" disappeared.
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Post » Sat May 28, 2011 7:34 am

Can't really think of anything worse then Snow White and the Seven Dwarves. :P

You saw that movie too? ;)
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Post » Sat May 28, 2011 7:01 am

Karstaag is neither man nor monster. No, he is actually a snow pimp, a whole new species. You saw how he held such high command and authority over the Reiklings! Unfortunantly for him, Hircine was A snow druglord, which was just a step up.

Mystery solved, lets have cake.
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Post » Sat May 28, 2011 12:11 pm

I am disturbed to learn that Rieklings are Snohos.
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Post » Sat May 28, 2011 12:55 pm

Sometimes the truth is disturbing.
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