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Post » Fri May 27, 2011 3:28 am

where are people educted? everyone can read, but i dont see any schools, only schools that teach magic, but nothing that learns one how to read or anything

clarification please
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Post » Fri May 27, 2011 6:54 am

Before public education people would usually learn to read from a priest at the temple or from a tutor if the family could afford one. Though for most fantasy settings this sort of detail is on the same level of importance as outhouses and bathrooms.

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Btw could you use capitals to start a sentence?
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Post » Fri May 27, 2011 3:17 am

Yeah, proweler is basically right; a quest from the Imperial Cult priest in the Mages Guild in Ald-ruhn asks you to get some books for her to teach people to read.
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Post » Fri May 27, 2011 12:52 pm

Btw could you use capitals to start a sentence?


Yeah, sorry about that, so people hire monks/mages/priests to educate their kids?
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Post » Fri May 27, 2011 8:31 am

I'd imagine, in some sense. Perhaps the children go to chapels and whatnot rather than have the people come to their homes.
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Post » Fri May 27, 2011 12:48 am

I'm guessing that established learning depended upon where you lived and what you believed.

Cyrodiilic scholars were priests and monks who probably gave private lessons as opposed to staffing schools.

As seen in the Arcane University, apprentices learned about the world, history, and philosophical doctrines from guild scholars in the form of lectures, so I'd imagine that nations of High Rock and Summerset Isle offer more in the line of communal education.

Morrowind and Skyrim are probably limited to tribe/house taught studies on a master/apprentice level.

As far as specific knowledge is concerned, if you are an aspiring architect, you'd probably learn on a one-on-one basis by a master. This could hold true with any "profession". I doubt Tamriel has law schools outside any governmental training, but that probably falls under philosophy, which would be to nobles and the like by tutors (ex. Alexander the Great and his tutor, Aristotle).
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Post » Fri May 27, 2011 11:27 am

Temples Priests and Mages, if anything.

I doubt the Telvanni give a hoots though, unless they see some spark of potential in children.
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Post » Fri May 27, 2011 4:29 pm

With the educational mass the Tamrielic peoples seems to have, I think reading and writing is probably learned from parents/neighbours/relatives. Hardly anyone, not even rich people, new how to read/write back in the medieval ages. Though the literacy in TES are ridiculously high to begin with.
Temple education is plausable too, of course, if it wasn't for the fact that poor, starving people rather have their kids at home working and learning a trade, than in school learning "useless" things.
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Post » Fri May 27, 2011 1:45 pm

I belive as some others that the Priest/Monks/Mages from the Temple/Mages Guild have "classes" or similar that lets people anticipate to learn how to write and read. And then they may teach that further to their children/grand children and so on.
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Post » Fri May 27, 2011 4:32 am

You're assuming every one can read. There is obviously a very high literacy rate but there is no reason to assume that just because a shop owner has a sign that he wrote it or can read. Back in the day a lot of craftsmen could know their trade and not read, if they need to write/read a letter they hire a scribe.

Also there is the gameplay aspect the NPCs are meant to represent a larger population and illiterate ones wouldn't need as large a representation. I think that the limited interaction the player has with the world gives the impression that more people can read then actually can. Also how well can they read there is a big difference between "ABCs for Barbarians" and "Monomyth".
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Post » Fri May 27, 2011 3:59 am

My friends,

Although the Imperial Province calls the Schools of Julianos "chapels", such as the one that I dutifully operate out of under the wise and benevolent instruction of Primate Volandrus Abor (Blessed be his name!), the great Julianos and the Schools in His name are the primary source of mundane teaching in the Empire today.

I will admit to spending my early years performing errands of a somewhat...clandestine...nature for the Empire in the Iliac Bay. As an agent of the Empire, I operated out of the School of Julianos in the small kingdom of Abibon-Gora and quickly took to its teachings above and beyond my operative status. Allow me to quote my old Abibon-Gora motto:

The School of Julianos is no mere temple, dedicated to mindless obseisance to a distant and hazy God figure. Julianos is a God, to be sure, but foremost he is a symbol of learning, logic, philosophy, and wisdom. We espouse no moral philosophy other than the goodness of knowledge. As the great Psijic once said, the power of ignorance can truly shatter mithril like glass. That is our enemy. Scholarship is a long and difficult journey, and Julianos does not tolerate those who wish to shorten it. However, He does bless those who generously donate to His School with a temporary increase in their magical skills. While we advocate literacy and education for all Tamrielans, our policy for those who wish to join the School itself is very stringent. We have little time to waste training the slow and the lazy. (http://www.uesp.net/wiki/Daggerfall:Julianos)

So, you see...the Schools of Julianos are much like irl colleges. One must work hard to be accepted as an official student and continue that work to maintain enrollment. Our instruction includes history, mathematics, law, logic, philosophy, dwemeri scientific principles, rune deciphering (including translating the Elder Scrolls themselves!), and even training in the magical arts (which puts us in somewhat of a friendly competition with the Mages Guild) just to name a few.


Yours in the Scrolls,


___The Word Merchant of Julianos
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Post » Fri May 27, 2011 2:46 am

Friggin' amazing.
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Post » Fri May 27, 2011 11:55 am

Before public education people would usually learn to read from a priest at the temple or from a tutor if the family could afford one. Though for most fantasy settings this sort of detail is on the same level of importance as outhouses and bathrooms.

For my first lore forum discussion I chose to invoke history on this topic and you tried to eat me alive. :lol:
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Post » Fri May 27, 2011 1:04 pm

There is several Universitys and Colleges around Tamriel, most known ones being in Skyrim and Cyrodiil.

There is:

The University of Gwylim (with it's own publishing sector known as "The University of Gwylim Press", with such works comming out of the university like "The Wild Elves", "Opusculus Lamae Bal ta Mezzamortie", and "Frontier, Conquest, and Accommodation")

The Imperial University (with it's "Council of Healers", and with such books comming out of here like "An Overview Of Gods and Worship In Tamriel", "Notes For Redguard History", "Cherim's Heart of Anequina", "A Scholar's Guide to Nymphs", and "Notes on Racial Phylogeny and Biology, Seventh Edition")

The Arcane University (as seen in Oblivion)

The College of Winterhold (with it's famous 'Ysmir Collective' library)

The Bard's College of Solitude (whose Bards entertain throughout the many Courts of Highrock, Skyrim, and Cyrodiil)


Then there is also several Imperial War Colleges:

The Imperial College of the Voice (in Markarth Side)

The Imperial Battlemage College (though, it has been destroyed for a while now, and sometimes known just as "the War College")
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Post » Fri May 27, 2011 12:37 pm

Everyone is NOT able to read. I am fairly certain a farmer has no big reason to read. Of course their are those schools that were mentioned, but they require money or amzing intellect, which a farmer would more than likely not have.
Of course the commoner's parents could teach the child. If they were literate, which they may not be.
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Post » Fri May 27, 2011 5:33 am

Agreed. Even joining the Mages Guild costs money, although certain magically talented children in High Rock are sponsored into Mages Guild tutelage by either private patrons or the Mages Guild itself. (http://www.imperial-library.info/pge/highrock.shtml)

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