materials, the odd weapons

Post » Tue May 17, 2011 1:31 pm

Defintely, Silver armor with were-creatures and stuff
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Post » Tue May 17, 2011 12:20 pm

If I had to pick just one weapon for me to use in Skyrim it would a Halberd.
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Post » Tue May 17, 2011 11:30 am

Oh, forgot to add that I'm definitely a HUGE proponent for different types of bows. Just different look doesn't cut it. We need at least long and short bows with different speed, accuracy and damage values.
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Post » Tue May 17, 2011 8:26 am

Silver is opposite, it doesn't make sense as an armor.
It has already been an armor in the series, they might as well return it. Silver makes more sense as armor than glass in any case.
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Post » Tue May 17, 2011 8:51 am

I have never seen or heard of a kuri, and I didn't get any relevant results when searching for it. Not even when I searched for "Kuri weapon".

I was under the impression that a halberd WAS a pole axe with a spear or pike head.

I have never heard of something just called a "long axe". I looked it up, I found something called a "Dane axe" and the article says it often is called an "English long axe", so I assume that is what you are talking about. This thing looks like an early halberd without the piercing side or the pike/spear tip.

I think you should find a better picture for the "execution sword". I can't really make anything out and a Google search did not find me anything better.

What is the difference between a "warhammer" and a "battlehammer"? I know there is a difference between "battle axe" and "war axe", but I've noticed that distinction is unique to Bethesda games and the terms are otherwise used interchangeably.

Glaives aren't really a "slashing spear". They are more like swords but pole arms. It's just that spears, by definition, are throwing and/or thrusting weapons, so "slashing spear" is sort of an oxymoron. I also think mentioning that the blade looks like the blade of a sword helps give a better picture of what it looks like.

We already had broadswords. They aren't exactly "weird" or "odd". In fact, most of the swords in Oblivion WERE broadswords. Broadswords are almost so common in fantasy games they just don't even bother calling them broadswords. A broadsword is really just a double edged sword with a straight blade.

Also, what do you mean by "daedra skin". Lotsa different daedra. If you mean like "dremora skin" or "xivalai skin" or any humanoid daedra skin, no thank you. If you mean like "daedroth leather" or something, then perhaps.

Dude... did you mean Katar?

It is called a katara. I have seen other people call it a katar but I have never seen any authority say it is an appropriate or correct synonym. But it doesn't matter, people would know what you are talking about either way, so best not to nitpick over things...
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Post » Tue May 17, 2011 10:08 am

I even have mental issues conceptualizing glass as a material to be used this way. It's a liquid, needs to be thick (thus heavy, not light), or brittle if you want it thin enough to mold and make joints in. If it was up to me, I'd remove that too :P If anything, a wooden club with glass shards in it.

First of all, you are clearly misunderstanding what "glass" is in TES. It is a type of volcanic glass created by Red Mountain that is exceptionally strong. Also, glass is not a liquid and it disgusts me that people actually still think this.
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Post » Tue May 17, 2011 1:22 am

I have never seen or heard of a kuri, and I didn't get any relevant results when searching for it. Not even when I searched for "Kuri weapon".

I was under the impression that a halberd WAS a pole axe with a spear or pike head.

I have never heard of something just called a "long axe". I looked it up, I found something called a "Dane axe" and the article says it often is called an "English long axe", so I assume that is what you are talking about. This thing looks like an early halberd without the piercing side or the pike/spear tip.

I think you should find a better picture for the "execution sword". I can't really make anything out and a Google search did not find me anything better.

What is the difference between a "warhammer" and a "battlehammer"? I know there is a difference between "battle axe" and "war axe", but I've noticed that distinction is unique to Bethesda games and the terms are otherwise used interchangeably.

Glaives aren't really a "slashing spear". They are more like swords but pole arms. It's just that spears, by definition, are throwing and/or thrusting weapons, so "slashing spear" is sort of an oxymoron. I also think mentioning that the blade looks like the blade of a sword helps give a better picture of what it looks like.

We already had broadswords. They aren't exactly "weird" or "odd". In fact, most of the swords in Oblivion WERE broadswords. Broadswords are almost so common in fantasy games they just don't even bother calling them broadswords. A broadsword is really just a double edged sword with a straight blade.

Also, what do you mean by "daedra skin". Lotsa different daedra. If you mean like "dremora skin" or "xivalai skin" or any humanoid daedra skin, no thank you. If you mean like "daedroth leather" or something, then perhaps.


It is called a katara. I have seen other people call it a katar but I have never seen any authority say it is an appropriate or correct synonym. But it doesn't matter, people would know what you are talking about either way, so best not to nitpick over things...



Was not trying to nitpick. However, if you were to google both "katar" and "katara" you would see that "katar brings up images and information relating to weapons, where "katara" brings up images and information relating to the Nickelodeon cartoon Avatar: The Last Airbender. So I'm going to have to go with the spelling that actually brings up information related to the topic at hand, which happens to be "katar". So... have fun with that.
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Post » Tue May 17, 2011 1:17 pm

Was not trying to nitpick. However, if you were to google both "katar" and "katara" you would see that "katar brings up images and information relating to weapons, where "katara" brings up images and information relating to the Nickelodeon cartoon Avatar: The Last Airbender. So I'm going to have to go with the spelling that actually brings up information related to the topic at hand, which happens to be "katar". So... have fun with that.

Just know that popularity of a homograph vs a typo/confused word as demonstrated by a Google image search is not the definitive authority on the English lexicon.
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Post » Tue May 17, 2011 1:35 am

Just know that popularity of a homograph vs a typo/confused word as demonstrated by a Google image search is not the definitive authority on the English lexicon.



I fully understand that, I simply presented my case with evidence to support it. Now then, the other spelling "katara" was apparently used for a weapon that was in the Soul Caliber series. I will take your word for that, as I'm not that familiar with that game series. However, every other source or reference to the described weapons, that I HAVE ever seen, has used the spelling of "katar".

Here is a definition of katar: A katar is a unique type of knife which was once widely used on the Indian subcontinent. It is often associated specifically with Hindu culture in India, although people of other backgrounds probably used katars as well, since they are extremely versatile knives which come in a myriad of configurations to meet various needs. Katars are not in widespread use anymore, although many museums have very fine examples of antique katars on display, for people who want to get a closer look at these famous knives.

And a description for the same: The defining feature of a katar is the handle, which consists of two parallel bars supported by one or more crosspieces. To hold the knife, people wrap a hand around the crosspiece, causing the blade to protrude above their knuckles, almost like a talon, while the bars run down the user's fist and arm. To use the knife, it is necessary to punch, rather than stab, putting the full force of the body behind the knife and using it like a natural extension of the hand.

Katar blades are quite varied. They are classically double edged, and vary in length. Some katars have forked blades, in which case there may be two or three blades mounted on the handle, and in some regions the blades are movable, allowing people to penetrate a victim with a single blade and then trigger a mechanism which causes the blade to split, causing formidable internal injuries. Some 19th century katars even included small guns.
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Post » Tue May 17, 2011 1:41 pm

I fully understand that, I simply presented my case with evidence to support it. Now then, the other spelling "katara" was apparently used for a weapon that was in the Soul Caliber series. I will take your word for that, as I'm not that familiar with that game series. However, every other source or reference to the described weapons, that I HAVE ever seen, has used the spelling of "katar".

Here is a definition of katar: A katar is a unique type of knife which was once widely used on the Indian subcontinent. It is often associated specifically with Hindu culture in India, although people of other backgrounds probably used katars as well, since they are extremely versatile knives which come in a myriad of configurations to meet various needs. Katars are not in widespread use anymore, although many museums have very fine examples of antique katars on display, for people who want to get a closer look at these famous knives.

And a description for the same: The defining feature of a katar is the handle, which consists of two parallel bars supported by one or more crosspieces. To hold the knife, people wrap a hand around the crosspiece, causing the blade to protrude above their knuckles, almost like a talon, while the bars run down the user's fist and arm. To use the knife, it is necessary to punch, rather than stab, putting the full force of the body behind the knife and using it like a natural extension of the hand.

Katar blades are quite varied. They are classically double edged, and vary in length. Some katars have forked blades, in which case there may be two or three blades mounted on the handle, and in some regions the blades are movable, allowing people to penetrate a victim with a single blade and then trigger a mechanism which causes the blade to split, causing formidable internal injuries. Some 19th century katars even included small guns.


http://www.google.com/search?hl=en&safe=off&q=define:katara&btnG=Search
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Katara_(dagger)
http://books.google.com/books?id=lFR06tVELyIC&pg=PA181&lpg=PA181&dq=kattari+sword&source=bl&ots=zEMMC6XhVN&sig=ObjPcew1q7gZ6gLMWJ6ynYhP_r4&hl=en&ei=j4FaS8HLOYO6swOIzpWVAw&sa=X&oi=book_result&ct=result&resnum=1&ved=0CAkQ6AEwAA#v=onepage&q=kattari%20sword&f=false

http://www.google.com/search?sourceid=chrome&ie=UTF-8&q=define:katar
Katars - A Kattari, Katara or Katar (Devanāgarī: ????, ka??āri, ka?āra), also known as a suwaiya or Bundi dagger, is a type of short punching sword that originated in South India as "Kattari" and spread throughout India. It is used to make swift and quick attacks. ...

For the weapon of the same name, see: Katara (sword)

I don't know why you were giving me the history on the thing, I know what they are. And, both terms are right.
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Post » Tue May 17, 2011 5:18 am

@NightHuntsman

My friend is an archeologist and after coming back from an expedition searching for mayan artifacts in Belize he was telling me that Mayans and aztecs would use Obsidian(volcanic glass) weapons such as daggers and spears because the edges are so sharp that skin is literally incapable of healing a wound from it so even small scratches would cause an enemy to bleed out cause it wouldn't clot.


Well it is a good thing you archeologist is that and not a doctor because that logic is absolute nonsense. Sharpness of a weapon has nothing to do with the way blood clots. if it did then every surgery we do would end in a bleed out death because we can laser sharpen things like scalpels to be much sharper than anything some ancient Mayans were able to do with Obsidian and rocks to sharpen it on. Also the fact that you need some type of chemical to stop blood from clotting or they have to already have a clotting issue.
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Post » Tue May 17, 2011 7:11 am

this is a war hammer and i want them in skyrim, its a one handed light hammer on one side and a pick on the other side... i think it was designed for horseback fighting but was also used on foot as well... very good for an offensive fighter against guys with shields and or armor... give me that in one hand and a one handed fighting axe or short sword in the other and ill be kicking some ass viking style!

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/War_hammer
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Post » Tue May 17, 2011 8:23 am

As long as there are plently of different weapons types and some not available in every material.

The most memorable weapon in Morrowind was the Daedric Cresent; http://www.uesp.net/wiki/Morrowind:Daedric_Crescent
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Post » Tue May 17, 2011 6:17 am

I thought a glave was just a halberd with a hook or special end on it, I think the mancatcher is considered a glaive
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Post » Tue May 17, 2011 6:38 am

First of all, you are clearly misunderstanding what "glass" is in TES. It is a type of volcanic glass created by Red Mountain that is exceptionally strong. Also, glass is not a liquid and it disgusts me that people actually still think this.


So then there will be no glass in Skyrim? Suits me just fine, as I always thought it being weird. :P But I am talking about obsidian type glass (rather than lead/flint/silica glass), and the green in TES is explained with iron and magnesium content. However, raw ebony is explained to be an obsedian, but in brown color. There is also glassy (amorphous) metals, but are today expensive and I can't have TES glass be explained to be this given the Red Mountain nature of it.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/State_of_matter
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Glass_transition
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Obsidian (TES Ebony ore?)
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pele%27s_tears (TES glass? Some has a funny resemblance to other tears, don't you think? :))
http://discovermagazine.com/2004/apr/glassy-metals
So given the faith of Vvardenfell and Red Mountain, maybe anything glass and ebony will be extremely rare, maybe to the point of being a collectors item rather than for its super extreme properties? I never minded having them around, it just became weird that they had this extreme Armor Class property compared to steel. If it was up to me, I'd give them the same AC as iron, but different weights and durabilities, where even steel outshines them in terms of AC but suffers in durability. Maybe there will be a catastrophic event like a volcano, which we can extract ores from? Who knows, could be interesting.

Ok, reason it's often being referred to as a liquid is that it's not a true solid in the traditional sense of matter states - what most know about states. You call it a liquid and get off with that, rather than trying to explain states that are slightly abstract and not what you learned in school. So, I'm busted, but not worried about it :D
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Post » Tue May 17, 2011 6:49 am

In Morrowind, Glass (and Ebony) is only used for Bladed Weapons (axes, spears, swords, etc.) It was not available as a mace or warhammer.

However, in Oblivion, every bandit was using it as a very effective mace and warhammer.

Glass should be sharp, but not durable.

Ebony (In Elder Scrolls Lore is a variety of glass) should also be sharp, not durable.
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Post » Tue May 17, 2011 12:34 pm

In Morrowind, Glass is only used for Bladed Weapons (axes, spears, swords, etc.) It was not available as a mace or warhammer.

However, in Oblivion, every bandit was using it as a very effective mace and warhammer.

Glass should be sharp, but not durable.

Ebony should not be sharp, but durable.


In MW there was also a bow/arrow and a staff made of glass. And remember, it is volcanic glass, so it IS durable.
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Post » Tue May 17, 2011 4:37 am

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Broadaxe
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