The Singularity...is coming! : Othor Games

» Tue May 17, 2011 1:37 am

Oh My!!!!

http://www.time.com/time/health/article/0,8599,2048138,00.html

Yes and I also believe they said flying hover cars were supposed to be the standard mode of transportation by 2000... Be wary when people say or make unfounded promises of having X technology by X date.

» Tue May 17, 2011 12:49 am

funny article, but we will definately not be able to send our conciousness to an artificial brain in the next 50 years (or longer).
Humanity has to learn a lot of neurotic networks, both natural and artificial.
But I'd like to see some advanced AIs in the future, unfortunately I am quite sure that surpasses my lifetime.
Whatever, then I have to watch the whole thing as ghost or bug, that depends if reincarnation is true

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» Tue May 17, 2011 6:38 am

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qnreVTKtpMs&feature=related

That said, it's going to be a sad affair. Immortality will be something only very very very very very very very very very very ridiculously disgustingly outlandishly rich people will be able to afford. Therefore everybody you know, including yourself, will probably still die.

Ah well. :geek:

[censored] it, that means Kotick will buy it just so he can continue to kill the industry, even after you guys have died.

I must now ensure I live until 2045. *converts freezer into cryochamber*

» Mon May 16, 2011 11:47 pm

Get a fast enough computer (read: really really fast) and you just need to simulate a human brain or something similar. Unfortunately we then get into some real big ethical issues.

The other alternative would be to build a computer + software system that could design a faster version.

Really? I didn't think so. :shrug: Then again I am not a biologist.

I dug up this website, http://faculty.washington.edu/chudler/bvc.html, which can explain it better than I can.

A computer uses switches that are either on or off ("binary"). In a way, neurons in the brain are either on or off by either firing an action potential or not firing an action potential. However, neurons are more than just on or off because the "excitability" of a neuron is always changing. This is because a neuron is constantly getting information from other cells through synaptic contacts. Information traveling across a synapse does NOT always result in a action potential. Rather, this information alters the chance that an action potential will be produced by raising or lowering the threshold of the neuron.

http://scienceblogs.com/developingintelligence/2007/03/why_the_brain_is_not_like_a_co.php also has some good information in regards to comparing a human brain to a computer.

» Tue May 17, 2011 2:40 am

Come to think of it I do remember an article about merging actual neural cells from lab rat brain tissue to a computer that hooked up to a flight simulator. If I remember correctly the chip eventually learned how to fly the virtual plane on it's own over the course of a few days. I'll go see if I can find the article and I'll post it.

[edit]
http://dsc.discovery.com/news/briefs/20041018/brain.html

I also found a video on it as well for those of you who prefer visual aids over text. http://www.break.com/usercontent/2007/12/Rat-Neurons-learn-how-to-fly-an-Aeroplane-416922

» Tue May 17, 2011 12:41 pm

I tried to read the article, but I got the sidetracked and read about top ten midgets.

» Tue May 17, 2011 2:14 am

Guy: Computer get me my porm for today....
Computer: NO.
End of Civilization right there.

:cryvaultboy:

:lmao:

» Tue May 17, 2011 2:02 am

:) funny article, but we will definately not be able to send our conciousness to an artificial brain in the next 50 years (or longer).

If ever.

Frankly for all the talk, unless we discover what constitutes the "essence" of the human soul, then anything proposed offers little more than to create a viable copy of who an individual is. That copy might go on forever thinking it is the original, but the original will cease to be without a day added to its lifetime.

» Tue May 17, 2011 1:08 am

I tried to read the article, but I got the sidetracked and read about top ten midgets.

OMG its just like Cracked.

» Tue May 17, 2011 1:38 pm

Come to think of it I do remember an article about merging actual neural cells from lab rat brain tissue to a computer that hooked up to a flight simulator. If I remember correctly the chip eventually learned how to fly the virtual plane on it's own over the course of a few days. I'll go see if I can find the article and I'll post it.

[edit]
http://dsc.discovery.com/news/briefs/20041018/brain.html

I also found a video on it as well for those of you who prefer visual aids over text. http://www.break.com/usercontent/2007/12/Rat-Neurons-learn-how-to-fly-an-Aeroplane-416922

Brain juice. I'm scared.

» Tue May 17, 2011 11:53 am

From reading the article, the bit where it mentions the computers getting fast enough/super enough to then take over designing themselves, why not just do that now??

Just write a program that rights a program

Artificial AI will come eventually, but probably not in 35 years, like others have mentioned, and probably not on the architecture that we have today. I'm quite interested in AI, and am probably going to specialize in it for my final project at Uni, and here are my ideas. (No stealing!!! Copywrite etc etc.

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Instead of writing a program (or just having computers get there themselves) that matches human intelligence, why not just simulate the earliest form of life, complete with suitable surrounding for evolution, and then . . . press fast forward?? Depending on how super the computer is, the evolution that is bound to take place will only take a fraction of the billions (or millions?? Not quite sure) of years it took actual evolution to happen.

:D

» Tue May 17, 2011 10:00 am

That would be something if we took simple living cells, that were building blocks for humans, got them to grow fast forwardly, and then saw they did not turn into humans at all...

» Tue May 17, 2011 1:40 pm

I heard that people pay Kurzweil alota money for information/advice/consultation