Anyone who would say this has no actual understanding of how democracy works, and severely overestimates the rationality of most people, especially in mass form. And yes, to me, liberty is worth "the cause." Pain and suffering are inescapable and always will be. Liberty is the only thing of true value in life, as a life without liberty and the ability to control one's destiny as much as possible is a life not worth living. If you feel differently I fully support your right to enslave yourself to someone else, or to base your thoughts, actions, and beliefs off of what the masses and majorities want. I, on the other hand, will choose liberty.

No one is stopping you from limiting yourself. If you cannot see the difference between the right to limit yourself and the right to limit others, then you have an intellectual honesty gap in your beliefs the size of the Grand Canyon.

I sincerely hope you're joking. If you're not, I just lost a little more faith in mankind. I'm honestly baffled that you apparently think it's O.K to be a racist bigot because of "Freedom of expression". So I can burn crosses on my lawn, hang Nazi flags out of my windows, use hateful speech about you and your race / family, because I should be allowed to express myself? Laughable. Words can be just as hurtful mentally, and emotionally, as me punching you in the face would be physically.



Didn't Hitler change it, though? I think I remember reading about how he turned it a little more to the side. Maybe it's just my imagination, though. :shrug:

You'd lose faith in mankind due to someone supporting freedom of speech/expression? That's funny, because I find those that think people need to be regulated in what they are allowed to say, or in the manner of which they can non-violently express themselves, have no faith in mankind to begin with. They are akin to people who think that everyone would just start killing each other out of nowhere were the laws against murder to be repealed tomorrow.



Uh, yes, especially if it is on your private property. In fact I don't know of any laws against such acts in the United States currently. And words can only damage the offended if they agree to it. I don't get a say in whether your punch to my face breaks my nose or not.

All of you, just put down your troll faces and your flamethrowers, and walk away!

There is no point to this argument and it appears you cannot sway each other, so drop it and get back on the OP!

I'd say, yea it would be kinda cool to add an emblem, but the altercations with just color on an item will do fine, because that still opens up many of possibilities

Ok.

The biggest problem is a selection of emblems gets over used and custom ones have to be vetted and this requires the company to spend money.

Thought I would suggest using the forum. Post a pic and have people vote. Enough Yes votes and it gets sent to a final judge. Each No takes away a Yes and so they don't have to deal with any stupid/offensive ones. Or less anyway.

PS: does this mean I finally get a turtle?

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I honestly, don't even think this deserves a response. I'm not leaving the argument because I'm conceding that you're correct, I'm leaving it because I'm literally at a loss for words, and because I don't want to get the thread locked for going off-topic. The fact that someone actually thinks that's O.K, baffles me to no end. I never thought I'd actually have to explain to someone why this was wrong. A face-palm isn't even enough, I need a face-nuke.

I will wait in anticipation of the day that someone horribly racist against you, moves next door to your house.

So, the thread has become seemingly useless. Not surprising.

Topic: EMBLEMS
From what Ive seen, there aren't any emblems in game at all. Obviously other than what is on the clothing you use.
It would be nice to see some sort of add-on in the future that lets you put emblems on weapons and/or clothing though.
I had mentioned before how Guild Wars had a bunch of emblems you could put on your Guild Cape, which could also be colored.

http://images2.wikia.nocookie.net/__cb20061123001529/gw/images/5/57/Emblems.jpg To the Emblems. They are all in one image.




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Achievement gained: Turtle :turtle:

This is assuming the forums are a populated as they are now... But then that begs the question, is it a new thread for every emblem or the same one till it's maxed out?

Also people could just say no if they have a biased against the user, and if the forums are flooded with all these types of threads, and not many people are on. It could just shoot down someones emblem even though it was ok.

Thank you for giving up.

K cool. Let's start throwing people in jail for dropping the N-bomb then. I don't see why you're baffled, I've made my position perfectly clear. Just because I don't agree with something does not mean I feel people don't have the right to do it or that I think it's "a-ok." There's a lot of things people do that I don't like or find offensive. That doesn't mean they should be outlawed.

" will wait in anticipation of the day that someone horribly racist against you, moves next door to your house."

I'm sure I'll just go on about my day, not particularly caring. I tend to not value the opinions of collectivists, and racism is one of the highest forms of collectivism.

Well, there are limitations on the freedoms of speech, but they're irrelevant since the games don't fall under government law.

http://cdn3.knowyourmeme.com/i/3375/original/cool-story-bro.jpg?1244744914.




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I propose that no one be allowed to wear sweatpants in Walmart. It offends me.



Really only insofar as it would relate to actions thereafter. Like attacking someone after calling them a racial slur will catch you a hate charge, or the proverbial yelling "FIRE!" in a crowded room (when there is no fire, obviously).

But yes, online interactions and even videogames in general fall under Federal licensing laws and even agencies like the ESRB

Why are you still going on your tirade about this? The argument is over. If it makes you feel better, beat your chest, tell yourself you won. Go make a thread in community discussion if you still want to talk about this, stop baiting people into taking this thread even further off-topic. It's obvious that no matter what you say, you won't sway anyone to your cause, likewise how we won't convert you to ours.

OT: I would love it if they at least had emblems you could make from pre-determined things, like how Halo does it. I'm not holding my breath for it, though.

Why are you still responding if the argument is over?

Give everyone a while to come to a consensus that sweatpants are measurably harmful or offensive to society in some way beyond reasonable doubt, and I'm sure they'll enact something to stop people in Wal*Mart from wearing them. :wink_smile:

Attention Duelists, My Hair has made it Illegal to wear sweatpants in Wal*Mart!

Right...