Ok. I was reading some ES lore on the web, and it suddenly hit me! Nirn is Mars!!!! (The fourth planet from our sun, for the uneducated) Think about it: There are nine planet in the solar system where Nirn is (remember all the ES games were made before Pluto lost it's status as a planet), Nirn has two moons (so does mars), there are humans there (which I'm guessing you most likely are too). Mars is (in real life) thought to support life at one point in it's history, so why not a world filled with magic, gods, wars etc. etc. Let's presume for a moment that Mars/Nirn got destroyed somehow, the humans were the only ones able to escape and they made it to the planet closest to them, both in distance and living conditions (which in real life would be Earth, our planet) and they brought with them some animals: Bears, mountain lions, wolves etc. Somehow they lost their memories, either intentional or by accident, and noone remembers anything at all about magic and all the other stuff that distinguishes us from the ES world. This could also explain all the legends we have about for example werewolves, (in christian belief) a war in heaven (Aedra vs. Daedra), Vampires, Wizards, Witch burning (notice how Witch is almost identical too lich ) Dragons and so on and so on.

I know there are arguments against this like for example ?If all the Men of Akavir were eaten, then how come there are asian people here?? Well, like It says in the undertitle (whatever it's called), this os just wild speulations, but I would like to think what you feel about this theory of mine :whisper:

Hate to seem mean, but...noooooooooo. Nirn isn't Mars.

It's cool that you're thinking, but you just went in a wrong direction.

This said, your question http://www.imperial-library.info/obscure_text/5th_era_loveletter.shtml before. Kinda in http://www.imperial-library.info/obscure_text/vehk_teaching.shtml.

edit: Grammatical error. A stupid one.

The problem here? http://www.uesp.net/w/images/Masser_full.jpg Bethesda stole the texture from somewhere and added purple.

Well, I always thought Red Mountain/Vvardenfell looked like Olympus Mons, about the same height too.

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Also:

http://dwemerstudies.wiwiland.net/planets.html

Aren't both of Mars' moons on a collision course with the planet? Though one moon is larger then the other (Phobos is larger then Deimos), I would say it is both jumping the gun and silly to think Nirn corresponds to a real planet. Besides, have you seen Masser? It's clearly Mars. It also doesn't help that phobos and deimos are rather oddly shaped objects to begin with.

http://dwemerstudies.wiwiland.net/images/hlover.jpg

Where are those pictures from? The Stars page.

Redguard.

The Manual? The Temple? The Observatory? It's not the PGE.

The observatory, according to the astrology section. Come on, you could've checked it out yourself.

The warrior especially has Morrowind Saint written all over it, in terms of the style. And I love how The Steed is a great ugly bug. Black Beauty!

They're in Tribunal too. Same art.

No.

Mars is Nirn!

nv

Just to the OP: your theory would make people feel like facepalming, but personally I don't see the point of hurting my own face. I'd rather palm the face of the individual who forgot to give you your meds. Cheers.

Well, noone can deny that there are some facts supporting it, but I realise that there are facts contradicting it. But like I said, it's nothing more then wild speculation and if anyone knows something that either supports or deny this hypothesis then please let us know: This isn't a debate as I know that it is most likely not like this, but please remain factually. Don't just say ?MARS IS NIRN? without sharing why you think it may be so.

I just linked you two texts that tell the true nature of NIRN.

And in all seriousness, while I haven't been on the forums for a long time, I honestly haven't seen anyone make this "Mars is Nirn/Nirn is Mars" assertion. Don't think too many individuals would find support for it unless they were playing devil's advocate.

Well, at least it was original...