Ok ill try and not drag this post out like my last one, just had a ton of questions that i'd like answered but to make it easier on you guys a yes/no answer will do.

-If i use a weakness to magic 100% spell on an enemie twice will it stack to 200% and so on?

-If i use a weakness to magic 100% (A) spell and make another weakness to magic 100%( B ) though i name the spell differently and cast spell A & B on enemy will it stack to 200%?

-If i use a weakeness to magic 100% (A) spell and make another weakness to magic 100%( B ) and cast spell A, spell B, spell A again and then spell B again too, will it stack to 400%?

I made an ebony bow with these enchantments and in this order:

Weakness to shock 100% for 6 secs
Shock damage 16 pts for 1 sec
Soul trap for 1 sec

-If i fire an arrow at my enemy will the weakness to shock take effect on the first shot as i have the shock after the weakness therefore doing 32 shock damage points?

-If i fire two arrows at my enemy will he only be weakened by 100% and not 200% therefore doing 32 shock point damage?

-When i fire the second arrow into my enemy he will be weakened 200% by shock but will the timer of my first shot ( timer as in the 6 secs of weakness to shock) reset to 6 seconds again?

-Does it matter where soul trap is on weapon, as in first enchantment on the weapon or third as i have it?

-So if i keep firing arrows into a strong enemy, will his weakness to shock keep increasing and reseting the timer of the first shot?


I had more but i dont wont to bore you guys, a simple yes/no answer will do, but if u can elaborate on any of them i will appreciate that too, cheers guys sorry for being such a [censored] but unless i get things explained to me like a 5 year old i wont undertand its just the first time ive looked into stacking, poisons and enchantments really so all of a sudden ive gone from doing nothing to everything and am getting a little overwhelmed ( i have read uesp and sometimes they confused me even more )

From what I understand, you are correct except on the first point in the section after your enchantments. You will only do 16 dmg. on the second shot 32, third shot 48, etc. Thats my understanding however, so it may not be accurate. and you should put soul trap for 2 sec.

If you cast the same spell twice in a row your target will end up with 200% Weakness to Magic.



Your target would have 100% Weakness to Magic from the first spell and 200% Weakness to Magic from the second spell. Together that would give it a 300% Weakness to Magic.



The total Weakness to Magic in this case would be 600%.

When you cast spell A for the second time your target already has a total 300% Weakness to Magic so the effect of spell A is 400% Weakness to Magic. However, the effect of the second casting of the spell replaces the effect of the first casting so you lose the initial 100% Weakness to Magic. You are then left with 200% Weakness to Magic from spell B and 400% Weakness to Magic from spell A.



No, the weakness will not take effect on the first shot.



You would do 32 damage.

Note also that Weakness to Fire, Frost, or Shock stacks differently than Weakness to Magic. Weakness to Shock only increases Shock Damage, it doesn't have any effect on Weakness to Shock. On the other hand Weakness to Magic has an effect on all magic spells and that's why it makes itself stronger if you cast it repeatedly.



When you fire the second arrow your target still has only 100% Weakness to Shock. The only thing that happens in regard to the Weakness to Shock effect is that the timer is reset back to 6 seconds.



Not sure, but IIRC the last effect of a spell is actually the one that is applied first.



The Weakness to Shock will be a steady 100%, only the timer will keep reseting.




Here are the basic rules for how these things works:

1. If you cast the same spell or use the same enchantment on a target twice in a row, the second use repalces the first use. The second time you use the spell or enchantment will only reset timers for the effects of the first one.

2. Weakness to Magic will increase the effect of all hostile spells and enchantments. If you cast a spell with Weakness to Magic twice on the same target the second casting of the spell will be amplified by the Weakness to Magic from the first casting. That is why Weakness to Magic is the only effect that actually stacks with itself.

I hope that was clear enough, but if you want I can provide more examples.

The answers about are right, except for the arrow answers, I think.

I theory it should work that way. And it does work that way for melee weapons.

However, either intentionally or unintentionally (ie a bug) it doesn't work that way with a bow and arrow.

With the example of 100% weakness to shock and 16 point shock damage, It is correct that after the second shot the target will have a 100% weakness to shock and if you hit the target with a different shock enchanted weapon will result in 32 shock.

However I'm pretty sure that firing that same shock enchanted bow twice will result in only 18 shock damage.

I didn't test this specifically with weakness to shock, as I recall, but i did test it with weakness to poison. It just doesn't work as expected. It seems this is due to the way the effects are applied. It appears that if you fire that bow twice the sequence is to remove the enchantment effect from the first shot, then apply the arrow damage, then apply the bow enchantment effect. So the weakness to shock does not amplify the shock damage from the second shot, according to my testing.

But with a sword for example, with 100% weakness to shock and 16 points shock damage will result in 16 points shock damage on the first hit, then 32 points with each additional hit (assuming within the specified duration of the previous hit)

As for your bow, change the list order, and make Soul Trap be one second longer than the damage:

Soul Trap 2 seconds
Shock Damage 16 for 1
Weakness to Shock 100% for 6

I think Savlian is right about the bow damage. Try adding Weakness to Magicka 100% for 6 at the end of your enchantments for the bow.