So I understand that Daggerfall was re-released for the computer for free. That's awesome and all and I hope people who have never played the game gain more insight into the world of the Elder Scrolls by playing the game. However, I am one of those people who has never played the game. I came in on Morrowind and got the expansions but I've always wondered what went on in Daggerfall. So here's my dilemma. I have a fairly old computer that runs extraordinarily slow and barely has enough space on it to contain the virus database so downloading Daggerfall would be what I like to call impossible. Anyone know if they plan on making it downloadable on XBox Live? Thanks.

Does Xbox even run with a DOS-like program?!

I would answer that if I knew what DOS meant. :shrug:

To port it to Xbox Live they'd need the source code.

So no, it's not happening.

How old is 'fairly old'? It might be too new to run the game as is, and too old to emulate it - which would spell doom.

If it's so old as to be running Windows 98, you're fine
If it doesn't have enough space on it to take a few hundred MB's, it sounds like the latter. Can't you free up some space? Try CCleaner - that scraqed together a gig of free space on my system.

WAT?

But seriously, what are the computers specs? If it's old enough it could run it without dosbox. But no, they will not port it to xbox.

Google DOSbox and download the 0.73 version and install it, then Google a windows front-end for DOSBox called D-Fend Reloaded and download and install it, then download Daggerfall. Then you'll have everything to play the game, pretty much however old the PC is if it's running Win98 or better and you'll need to know nothing about DOS.

Given all the above is less than 400mb all told, I am also sure you can find the space somewhere.

Well damn. The computer used to be a Windows 98 computer, I believe but we installed XP on it because we needed to use it in an office and then just gave it to me. I'll look into CCleaner. Thanks.

Post the specs for the lulz.

Just the fact your PC can run Windows XP means it can run DOSBox and D-Fend Reloaded and Daggerfall, it'sjust a matter of finding 400mb or so of hard disk space.

Just because a PC can run XP doesn't mean that it'll run DosBox to satisfactory speed (I think).
Anything around 1Ghz will be too slow for Daggerfall on DosBox - and if his PC is ex-windows 98, then it'll be about 300-500Mhz.

He might be able to play it in compatibility mode with ImDisk & Turbo instead, though.

They have the original Doom on Xbox Live.

The original Doom was written with portable C code, though. It's relatively easy to port across the platforms. Daggerfall have a lot of x86 assembler code (which is also a mess cause during the development they changed lead programmer several times), which is not compatible with the 360 at all.

Well, he's not going to be able to run XP unless he has 1gb of memory, and if he has a PC with 1gb of memory I am sure he has more than a 300-500Mhz PC, as those type machines were never sold with 1gb ram.

I first played Daggerfall on a 486 DX4 100Mhz with 16MB of RAM.

XP was often sold on systems with only 128 MB. It ran like a hog but it happened. A huge number of computers with 256 MB have XP. He could easily have something anywhere in the 300 MHz to 1 GHz range.

For those still wondering, http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/DOS and http://dosbox.com/ is what you need to run DOS games on a Modern OS (XP/Vista, Linux, Mac, etc).

I found on my olde laptop (PIII 1 GHz, 256 MB, 16 MB Mobility Radeon, Win2K) I could run DOSbox 0.62 well enough for simple FPS games like Rise of the Triad. The newer versions of DOSbox are faster so I'm tempted to install Daggerfall just to see how well it runs. Only catch is I don't think my wi-fi card works on the Linux install I have on there now, which could make this really fun. I suspect it will run badly.

Popeman, if you can find us the specs for your computer we can give you a better idea. If it's a computer from a big-name company we can do that with only just the model number or the computer's service tag, if it has one. It sounds like the kind of thing that would work better for you if you reinstalled Windows 98 on it instead of XP.

My old computer had 256mb with windows xp and it ran pretty decent. Then again all I played back in those days was runescape, lol.

Poor logic. As already stated, XP was installed on computers with as little as 128mb of RAM, and I've personally installed it on computers with 64mb... NOT something you want to do if you have any other option. I've seen Vista on machines with 512mb of RAM; not a pretty sight.

With that said, a decent Pentium III with around 1gb of RAM should run newer versions of DOSBox alright. Daggerfall is playable on my Aspire One (1.6ghz Atom, 1.5gb RAM), which is much slower than a comparable Pentium III.

Post your system specs so someone can guide you in a better direction.

I did get a USB wi-fi stick working on my ancient Pentium III lappy. When it's done upgrading Xubuntu to get a newer DOSbox on there I'm going to try running Daggerfall. It should be interesting. Xubuntu is supposed to have a nice lightweight desktop (xfce) but the GUI is slower than Windows 2000 was on that machine. It's also a bit prettier, so that might be a factor.

Xfce tends to be pretty snappy, but it can feel a little sluggish on something that old. It always felt fine on my original Eee PC, though. Just don't turn on Emerald or Compiz Fusion.

Good luck with DOSBox on there, though. I don't think anyone has updated the repositories to include .73, so you might have to compile it.

Well, I do have time to compile it. I just hate doing that because getting all the dependencies right is always nasty. That will be a tomorrow project if this runs like crap.

Xfce runs like garbage on this thing. I'm not at all impressed with how slow it is. Good olde Explorer was quite a bit faster. I miss Window Maker. It copied NeXT's perfectly pretty desktop design and runs fast on ancient machines.

EDIT: Daggerfall is playable with Dosbox 0.72 on that machine. It suffers load lag, though. Doing things like starting the game and loading new areas after a fast travel are slow. I can't test with different sound configurations because the arrow keys don't work right with that version of Dosbox in Ubuntu. On a Windows machine I suspect using the MPU-401 setting for the MIDI will give a speed boost since it doesn't have to emulate an OPL3.

Are we comparing CPU sizes again? I first played Daggerfall on a 486/50, and it may have had only 4MB of RAM (can't remember for certain, but I don't think I went above 4MB before upgrading to the Pentium)

That worked? The site claims you need 8 MB. Things like that tended to be an issue for DOS games. DOOM supposedly needed only 4 MB but it never worked for my best friend until he upgraded to 8.