I would like to propose (I am however sure this has been mentioned before) that the next Fallout (if there is a next) should take place in the United Kingdom or anywhere other than the USA. I think the Fallout games are starting to lack a bit of variation in it's post-apocalyptic culture. Fallout 3 had a special ambiance of "wow this place used to be so important". I mean, running around the ruins of DC is pretty awesome!

Fallout New Vegas also has it's own very special ambiance as well, it has a nice jazzy, blow your caps on anything and everything feeling. Just being in the midst of all the neon is quite enjoyable but engaging in the activities at the casinos and along with the inhabitants gives it a nice fun feeling. But I guess Las Vegas is already like that.

What I am saying is, lets throw some old world international spice in there. You can very much tell that the Fallout games are very patriotic, with all the discussion of the "Old World" and the war. Well the excitement the US brings to the Fallout caravan table has died down. We've already seen the forlorn monuments to industrialism such as the remaining casinos, brothels, US landmarks, and more but there are only so many interesting landmarks in the US. I mean, we've already hit DC and that was just practice. Now we're in Vegas and even that seems a tad dry.

It'd be cool to take place with all of the foreign monuments and memorials around the world. I mean, I'd love to see Buckingham Palace run by a bunch of rogue AI robots, or that big clock thing being run by ghouls who refuse to accept the end of the world. Heck, if you like the NCR that much you can throw in some EU remnant soldiers or something. Heck, maybe throw in some giant faction of Neo-Nazi's. There's a lot of history in Europe that can be revived by Fallout.

It will be exciting the experience something further beyond the reaches of the USA. We've had enough of Enclave and Brotherhood of steel. It's time for some brand new factions, this time in good old Europe! xD

No, it wouldnt be right, the US had all the means for the hallmarks of the series, the Vaults, the majority of FEV exposure, the US is the central setting of the Fallout series, and there is still a lot of places left to be uncovered.

I see where you're going, the USA and China were the main opponents in the war. But stories can always be changed, I mean the storyline changed so much with New Vegas, with talk on how Mr.House saved it. Europe could easily have been in alliance with the US or China, what's to say Europe wasn't planning world domination by destroying both China and the US with their own set of advanced nuclear weapons, but never launched? They can be sitting in their place as we speak, or they misfired in the fallout of the war and destroyed Europe far more than we could imagine. This is a chance for whole new weapons, factions, and enemies.

Only about 5 threads' worth: http://www.gamesas.com/index.php?/topic/1175896-official-future-fallout-locations-suggestion-topic-5/

Europe nuked itself to hell, the US had no allies, they all abandoned her.

I don't know where you got this idea. There was only one vague reference to Las Vegas in Fallout 1, and the state of the city was never touched upon. I don't see how Obsidian changed anything.



The Resource Wars and Great War were essentially free for alls, there were no allies.

Hi Xien,

The UK is a big place - where did you have in mind?

The story didn't so much "change" with NV more than a hole get filled in. After going toe-to-toe witb the Middle east as a part of the European commonwealth, the USA hogging all the oil AND having one of his/her majesty's dominions annexed by the USA, I can't see any way a UK-USA alliance could work

http://www.gamesas.com/index.php?/topic/1175896-official-future-fallout-locations-suggestion-topic-5/ is the place to post location suggestions.

I see most users are focusing on the Alliance. I understand there were no alliances during the War, okay. A European setting could just be an untold story.

Europe sees a chance to take out both the USA and China while they are busy with the "Great War".
In the years that the Great War takes to stage, Europe prepares for world domination, with -what else- massive amounts of nuclear weapons. Enough to destroy 2 nations.
The Great War happens before Europe could take there chance at destroying them.
The nuclear fallout devastates the whole world, but Europe especially, considering it's unfired artillery of nuclear weapons, enough to destroy 2 nations!
The nuclear fallout detonates the untouched European artillery, completely devastating Europe with it's own nuclear fire.
The story is unheard of in any other places other than Europe because the radiation was so massive, that the surrounding oceans became infested with mutated beings and irradiated water itself. Therefor being no way to get in or out of Europe by ocean.

It wouldn't effect the story line with Fallout at all. Europe had no correlation to the Great War, they were going to start their own. They just never got the chance to, and thanks to the huge artillery they housed, they went and blew themselves up by accident due to the war between the US and China. It would be an "untold story" of Europe because no Europeans could survive to leave the country, by water and by land.

Europe was in no state to do so. They'd fallen to an uncohesive bunch of bickering nation-states. If they couldn't take out the middle east, how could they expect to take out two superpowers?

They were in no state to invade monaco, much less anywhere else.

Europe taking on the USA or China would be a direct contravention of canon.

I read this on Fallout Wiki.....

A pre-Fallout "Resource Wars" game set in collapsing Europe (during the U.K.'s invasions of the Middle East) is one of the games that J.E. Sawyer would like to make if he could do any game, regardless of money and developing time.

Sounds cool but it wouldn't be the same....

Use this Thread please for all Future Fallout Locations
http://www.gamesas.com/index.php?/topic/1175896-official-future-fallout-locations-suggestion-topic-5/page__st__120

This.

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I really am tired about hearing people thinking it will still be Fallout if it leaves the US. It won't, it will be something else. The Americana is what gives the game it's flavor, it's the thing I love about it.

All true but the biggest nail in the OP's Idea is that the great war lasted two hours and only nuclear weapons were used. No body invaded anyone during the great war.

Why do you think wwlll should only ever look at the U.S. afterwards.

fo would be fo where ever it was. I d love for Bethesda to travel to London give the same attention to detail they did in fo3, and put us in.

Wouldn t be fo, we r the only ones worthy of a fo game??? People from other countries are good enough to buy fallout, but never even have a chance to see their country show cases in a game? No fo needs to see the world. As soon as they tie up loose ends in Chicago and Vegas. Then fo U.K. ..... They just need to slow the time line way down. Like 2 years max in between games

IMHO

Fallout wouldn't be fallout "where ever" XD

Take away, Vaults, All the companies like Vault tech, West tek, take way power armor,take away super mutants, and all the various mutated life spawned by FEV. Take away nuclear powered everything....take way the whole Americana 50's world of tomorrow you see everywhere in the old world ruins and what do you have left? STALKER? or even more generic "wasteland -post apocalyptic ruin"? It's also up in the Air if ghouls are even possible, or if they are just the rare product of FEV and radiation poisoning.


Thats akin to saying Doom would still be Doom if you took away UAC, the teleportation experiments, changed the setting to be off Mars, and didn't fight demons and hell. Woudl it still be doom then? Or just a generic sci fi shooter?

And that about sums up how I feel. Many of the things we take for granted in Fallout are franchise icons that are exclusive to pre-war or post-war America. If you remove all of those icons then what still makes it Fallout? SPECIAL? Retro futuristic architecture and a few guns? A Fallout game set in another country may take place in the same universe as its predecessors, but I don't think that's enough to make it Fallout.

Yes what was I thinking only the U.S. would have done experiments, or tried to save people when the end wasg getting near.

Scientists from other coutries were to dumb to have anything like this is what you are saying?

Vault tec does not have to be there to make it fo.

I know anything different fron fo and fo2 and just wrong.

Nl one could use there imagination and make a intresting game over seas that connects to fo U.S.

Old fo fans are some of the most close minded people I have ever seen. I m glad bethesda will do what they need to do to make the series the best it can be.

You guys should just keep playing fo and fo2. Interplay lost the game things were bound to change. 13 years have passed since fo2 and you want a carbon copy of a game someone else lost.

No one s ideas could possibly work but old dinosaur club

What was I thinking?? Other people in the world thinking much like the us before the war. How far fetched........

......you drunk?

Fallout wouldn't be Fallout in a different country. Its as simple as that. The paranoia of Post-WW2 america into the retro future (then with a nuke dropped on it) is what sets it apart from the other Post-Apocalyptic games out there; its what gives Fallout its flavor.

Way to get off topic and bash original fans, ya twit.

(and I suppose you haven't played the originals)

There are still plenty of areas in the US we can play in... Commonwealth, Mid West.....

Yea, Bethesda has done great. But they aren't stupid enough to throw the series in a different country. :glare: (or atleast I hope)