FCOM - CTD when Fast Traveling : IV

» Tue May 17, 2011 8:40 am

Hey everyone, I tried asking about this in the Hardware and Software forum and was told I might try asking here. Anyway, I recently installed FCOM about 3 weeks ago and played nearly crash free for a good 50+ hours. Then, starting a couple days ago my game wants to CTD just about every time I fast travel. It doesn't seem to happen at any other time except when I click to fast travel and the loading bar gets to about 50-90% then bam, CTD. :brokencomputer:

I have tried a number of things including INI tweaks, OSR tweaks, Crash Prevention system, Pluggy updating and removing, and hours upon hours of reading CTD threads here. I was told that it is possibly a known problem with Ruined Tail's Tail so I tried removing that mod from my load list and loading a saved game from before I even started that quest. Strangely this seems to alleviate the problem just slightly so I CTD maybe 50% of the time I fast travel as opposed to 95% of the time. This could definitely be a coincidence and I certainly don't want to point fingers at Simyaz's mod cause I think his mods are amazing. I feel its more likely to be a compatibility issue on my end but I'm just not sure.

Sadly I'm running out of patience and options after spending hours and hours trying to troubleshoot this problem to no avail. If anyone has any suggestions for me I am all ears. Thanks in advance!

Here is my load order by the way:

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Masters for: Save 205 - Mattrim Cauthon - The Gold Coast, Level 14, Playing Time 55.07.05.ess
00 Oblivion.esm
01 Windfall.esm
02 Francesco's Leveled Creatures-Items Mod.esm
03 Francesco's Optional New Items Add-On.esm
04 Cobl Main.esm [Version 1.72]
05 Oscuro's_Oblivion_Overhaul.esm [Version 1.34]
06 Mart's Monster Mod.esm [Version 3.7b3p3]
07 TamrielTravellers.esm [Version 1.39c]
08 FCOM_Convergence.esm [Version 0.9.9a7]
09 Armamentarium.esm [Version 1.35]
0A Artifacts.esm
0B Kvatch Rebuilt.esm
0C Better Cities Resources.esm
0D CM Partners.esm
0E HorseCombatMaster.esm
0F Unofficial Oblivion Patch.esp [Version 3.2.0]
10 DLCShiveringIsles.esp
11 Better Cities .esp
12 Francesco's Optional Chance of Stronger Bosses.esp
13 Francesco's Optional Chance of Stronger Enemies.esp
14 Francesco's Optional Chance of More Enemies.esp
15 Francesco's Optional Leveled Guards.esp
16 FCOM_Francescos.esp [Version 0.9.9]
17 FCOM_FrancescosItemsAddOn.esp [Version 0.9.9]
18 FCOM_FrancescosNamedBosses.esp [Version 0.9.9]
19 Fran_Lv30Item_Maltz.esp
1A Natural_Weather_HDR_2.1.2_bugfree.esp
1B Natural_Habitat_by_Max_Tael.esp
1C Natural_Water_by_Max_Tael.esp
1D Reznod_Mannequin.esp
1E wd purse of wonders.esp
1F Living Economy.esp
20 Living Economy - Items.esp
21 DLCHorseArmor.esp
22 DLCHorseArmor - Unofficial Patch.esp [Version 1.0.5]
23 DLCOrrery.esp
24 DLCOrrery - Unofficial Patch.esp [Version 1.0.3]
25 DLCVileLair.esp
26 DLCVileLair - Unofficial Patch.esp [Version 1.0.5]
27 DLCMehrunesRazor.esp
28 DLCMehrunesRazor - Unofficial Patch.esp [Version 1.0.4]
29 DLCSpellTomes.esp
2A DLCSpellTomes - Unofficial Patch.esp [Version 1.0.1]
2B Morrigan Armor Set v1_0.esp
2C Nicos Scimitars Back.esp [Version 1.61]
2D PTArtifacts.esp
2E SentientWeapon.esp [Version 3]
2F DLCThievesDen.esp
30 DLCThievesDen - Unofficial Patch.esp [Version 1.0.5]
31 DLCThievesDen - Unofficial Patch - SSSB.esp [Version 1.0.4]
32 ExnemRuneskulls.esp
33 FCOM_ExnemRuneskulls.esp [Version 0.9.9]
34 Cobl Glue.esp [Version 1.72]
35 Cobl Si.esp [Version 1.63]
36 OOO 1.32-Cobl.esp [Version 1.72]
37 FCOM_Cobl.esp [Version 0.9.9]
38 Bob's Armory Oblivion.esp
39 FCOM_BobsArmory.esp [Version 0.9.9]
3A Loth's Blunt Weapons for Npcs.esp
3B FCOM_LothsBluntWeapons.esp [Version 0.9.9]
3C Oblivion WarCry EV.esp
3D FCOM_WarCry.esp [Version 0.9.9]
3E Oscuro's_Oblivion_Overhaul.esp [Version 1.34]
3F ArmamentariumLLVendors.esp [Version 1.35]
40 ArmamentariumArtifacts.esp [Version 1.35]
41 Mart's Monster Mod - Additional Enemy NPC Vars.esp [Version 3.7b3p3]
42 FCOM_Convergence.esp [Version 0.9.9]
43 FCOM_EntropicOrderRebalance.esp [Version 0.9.9beta2]
44 FCOM_RealSwords.esp [Version 0.9.9]
45 Mart's Monster Mod - More Wilderness Life.esp [Version 3.7b3p3]
46 Mart's Monster Mod - More Passive Wildlife.esp [Version 3.7b3p3]
47 Mart's Monster Mod - Extra Wounding.esp [Version 3.7b3p3]
48 Mart's Monster Mod - Looting NPCs & Creatures.esp [Version 3.7b3p3]
49 Mart's Monster Mod - Less Reavers.esp [Version 3.7b3p3]
4A Mart's Monster Mod - Less Bone Loot.esp [Version 3.7b3p3]
4B Mart's Monster Mod - Dungeons of MMM.esp [Version 3.7b3p3]
4C Mart's Monster Mod - Gems & Gem Dust.esp [Version 3.7b3p3]
4D Mart's Monster Mod - Hunting & Crafting.esp [Version 3.7b3p3]
4E Mart's Monster Mod - Farm Animals.esp [Version 3.7b3p3]
4F Mart's Monster Mod - Diverse WaterLife.esp [Version 3.7b3p3]
++ Mart's Monster Mod - Slof Horses Complete.esp [Version 3.7b3p3]
++ Mart's Monster Mod - Diverse Runeskulls Loot G&GD.esp [Version 3.7b3p3]
50 TamrielTravellerAdvscript.esp [Version 1.39c]
51 TamrielTravellers4OOO.esp [Version 1.39c]
52 TamrielTravellersItemsnpc.esp [Version 1.39c]
53 TamrielTravellersItemsCobl.esp [Version 1.39c]
54 ShiveringIsleTravellers.esp [Version 1.39c]
55 ShiveringIsleTravellersFriendlyFactions4MMM.esp [Version 1.39c]
56 FCOM_TamrielTravelers.esp [Version 0.9.9]
57 FCOM_Archery.esp [Version 0.9.9]
58 FCOM_FriendlierFactions.esp [Version 0.9.9]
59 Mart's Monster Mod - Shivering Isles.esp [Version 3.7b3p3]
5A ArmamentariumLL4OOO.esp [Version 2.01]
5B ArmamentariumLLMagicOOO.esp [Version 1.35]
5C SentientWeapon - OOO & MOBS.esp [Version 3.1]
5D OOO-WaterFish.esp [Version 1.34]
++ MMM-Cobl.esp [Version 1.69]
5E Castle Ravenpride.esp [Version 1.01]
5F Ivellon.esp [Version 1.8]
60 Artefacts of the Ancestors.esp
61 Artifacts.esp
62 Artifacts - ArmaCompleteAddon.esp [Version 1.0]
63 Basemant for Cobl.esp
64 Basemant for Cobl - Sheep Wool addition.esp
65 Bjornheim.esp
66 HeartOftheDead.esp [Version 6.0]
67 JolardHome.esp
68 300_White Stallion 4.esp
69 Kvatch Rebuilt.esp
6A Kvatch Rebuilt - OOO Compatibility.esp
6B Kvatch Rebuilt - Leveled Guards - FCOM.esp
6C Quest For The Elements.esp
6D The Ayleid Steps.esp [Version 3.3]
6E WOTFH_1.3.esp
6F Windfall.esp
70 DLCBattlehornCastle.esp
71 DLCBattlehornCastle - Unofficial Patch.esp [Version 1.0.4]
72 DLCFrostcrag.esp
73 DLCFrostcrag - Unofficial Patch.esp [Version 1.0.4]
74 Knights.esp
75 Knights - Unofficial Patch.esp [Version 1.0.9]
76 TOTF.esp
77 The Lost Spires.esp
78 Blood&Mud.esp
79 Lost Paladins of the Divines.esp
7A FCOM_Blood&Mud.esp [Version 0.9.9]
7B mythsandlegends.esp
7C NakedNord.esp
7D bartholm.esp
7E Natural_Vegetation_by_Max_Tael.esp
7F Harvest [Flora].esp [Version 3.0.0]
80 Harvest [Flora] - Shivering Isles.esp [Version 3.0.0]
81 Harvest [Flora] - DLCVileLair.esp [Version 3.0.0]
82 Harvest [Flora] - DLCFrostcrag.esp [Version 3.0.0]
83 Bag of Holding.esp [Version 1.5.0]
84 P1DkeyChain.esp [Version 5.00]
85 ScriptIcon_Replacer.esp
86 Quest Award Leveller.esp [Version 2.1.0]
87 Quest Award Leveller - Battlehorn Castle.esp
88 Quest Award Leveller - Vile Lair.esp [Version 2.1.0]
89 Quest Award Leveller - Mehrunes Razor.esp [Version 2.1.0]
8A Quest Award Leveller - Knights of the Nine.esp [Version 2.1.0]
8B Gather Ye Rosebuds.esp
8C SupremeMagicka.esp [Version 0.90]
8D SM_ShiveringIsles.esp [Version 0.86]
8E SM_DLCSpellTome.esp [Version 0.80]
8F SM_OOO.esp [Version 0.89]
90 SM_MMM.esp [Version 0.89]
91 SM_COBL.esp [Version 0.86]
92 SM_EnchantStaff.esp [Version 0.80]
93 SM_UnlockSpells.esp [Version 0.70]
94 SM_Scrolls.esp [Version 0.84]
95 SM_SigilStone.esp [Version 0.83]
96 MidasSpells.esp
97 Lightweight Potions.esp [Version 1.1]
98 EnchantmentRestore.esp
99 EnchantmentRestore_Wells.esp
9A Deadlier Sneaking 1.1.esp
9B Enter The Shinobi - Coors916.esp
9C Deadly Reflex 5 - Timed Block with no damage or durability changes.esp
9D DeadlyReflex 5 - Combat Moves.esp
++ SM_DeadlyReflex.esp [Version 0.86]
9E Oblivion XP.esp [Version 4.1.5]
9F OOO-Level_Stock.esp [Version 1.33]
A0 Mart's Monster Mod - Resized Races.esp [Version 3.7b3p3]
A1 CM Partners.esp
A2 bgBalancingEVCore.esp [Version 10.52EV-D]
A3 bgMagicEV.esp [Version 1.7EV]
A4 bgMagicEVStartspells.esp [Version 1.68EV]
A5 bgMagicBonus.esp [Version 1.7EV]
A6 bgMagicEVAddEnVar.esp [Version 1.68EV]
A7 bgMagicEVPaperChase.esp [Version 1.68EV]
A8 bgBalancingEVOptionalClasses.esp [Version 9.0EV-U]
A9 bgBalancingVanillaGMSTArmorPenalty.esp [Version 9.0UV-U]
AA bgBalancingVanillaGMSTMagickaRegeneration.esp [Version 9.0UV-U]
AB bgBalancingVanillaGMSTSpellCostProgression.esp [Version 9.0UV-U]
AC bgBalancingEVOptionalFCOMAdditions.esp [Version 10.]
AD bgBalancingEVLAMEAddition.esp [Version 10.51EV-D]
AE bgBalancingEVLAMEGlue.esp [Version 10.0EV-D1.62EV]
AF bgIntegrationEV.esp [Version 0.993]
B0 Better Cities Full - B&M Edition.esp
B1 Better Cities - No LEYAWIIN Flooding.esp
B2 Better Cities - VWD of the IC.esp
B3 Better Imperial City.esp
B4 Better Cities - COBL.esp [Version 2]
B5 bgMagicEVShader.esp [Version 1.7EV]
B6 bgMagicLightningbolt.esp
B7 Ayelid Wells.esp
B8 Weightless Ingredients SI.esp
B9 Weightless Ingredients VL.esp
BA Weightless Ingredients.esp
BB Bashed Patch, 0.esp

» Tue May 17, 2011 9:20 am

Update your FCOM to the UFCOM release from the forums here (in FCOM thread)

Consider updating your UOP with Arthmoor's addendum

Get the fixed version of DiverseWaterlife from the MMM thread

37 FCOM_Cobl.esp [Version 0.9.9] Remove this for now, just use MMM - Cobl and OOO Cobl till next version is released

Consider removing 41 Mart's Monster Mod - Additional Enemy NPC Vars.esp [Version 3.7b3p3] to see if it's stressing your system too much.

68 300_White Stallion 4.esp, I think this one needs some cleaning. Or it may only be the upgraded version that needs cleaning.

9F OOO-Level_Stock.esp [Version 1.33] This is utterly useless with Oblivion XP

A0 Mart's Monster Mod - Resized Races.esp [Version 3.7b3p3] should be imported into bashed patch, not activated.

» Tue May 17, 2011 3:03 pm

Aztec, I posted a reply in your thread in the software forum, take a look at it.

» Tue May 17, 2011 2:53 pm

Alright, Im going to try all of these suggestions. Thank you very much for the advice. Hope it works :foodndrink:

» Tue May 17, 2011 6:13 am

I am not sure that the issue is isolated to RTT. There is just something about companions and fast traveling... I still have not heard about that RTT crash recently.

Edit: ...I mean I have not heard any specifics about the issue.

Edit: You can use this guide to check your FCOM setup. Links to the downloads for all of the FCOM components and the unofficial official patches are found in step #1: http://sites.google.com/site/oblivionpoinfo/walkthroughs/fcomguide.

Edit: I believe both versions of the the 300 mod need cleaning, unless the other one was updated while I was not around...

@aztec423: In case you did not know what "cleaning" Showler meant: http://sites.google.com/site/oblivionpoinfo/tunesetup/cleaning

» Tue May 17, 2011 11:27 am

Well... I spent a couple hours working on fixing everything mentioned in this thread and updating all my files and .esps and guess what? I still crash every time I attempt to fast travel :cold: :nope:

So if anyone has any other ideas I'm all ears I would love to hear them. I have by now at least conceded to the fact that I'll be playing Oblivion without fast traveling. I suppose it could be worse, at least my FCOM installation is fully playable except for that Fast Travel CTD. :rolleyes: Anyway, I'm willing to try just about anything to alleviate this problem so if anyone wants to chime in I will certainly keep checking this post.

By the way sorry for resurrecting this thread, it took me a while to get time from school and work to actually fix the things that were suggested.

» Tue May 17, 2011 11:18 am

Do you use the memory extender? Forgot the exact name of it, the 4gb patcher program. I used to crash almost every time I entered a city or some other heavily modded area. Once I patched it, I seldom crash when traveling.

» Tue May 17, 2011 11:31 am

Do not use that patch on a 32-bit OS or a system without at least 4GB RAM?

» Tue May 17, 2011 9:29 am

Well I'm using Windows 7 and I do have 4 GB of RAM. I am currently running with the 4GB patch on my exe though I kept a backup exe and tried without the patch to see if that was what was causing me to crash. Doesn't seem to have much effect either way.

» Tue May 17, 2011 10:57 am

If you use OSR, Arthmoor recently posted in the Memory Usage thread about increasing the OSR heap size, since you are using the LAA patch now. He increased the OSR heap to 1024 and change the heap mod to 5. You can see this in the first post of that thread of course.