Getting CTD...

Post » Tue May 17, 2011 2:02 pm

I am using Alternative Start. The game loads up perfectly, I get to create my character, fill in the forms, but when I click on the bed, and it finishes loading I get a CTD. It doesn't matter which city I pick as a starting point. I use OBSE v0018. I also used BOSS to compile my load order. My load order is:

Masters for: Save 5 - Gwendolyn - Imperial Prison, Level 1, Playing Time 00.32.08.ess00  Oblivion.esm01  ScreenEffects.esm02  All Natural Base.esm  [Version 0.9.9]03  Francesco's Leveled Creatures-Items Mod.esm04  Francesco's Optional New Items Add-On.esm05  Cobl Main.esm  [Version 1.72]06  Oscuro's_Oblivion_Overhaul.esm  [Version 1.34]07  Mart's Monster Mod.esm  [Version 3.7b3p3]08  Enhanced Daedric Invasion.esm09  TamrielTravellers.esm  [Version 1.39c]0A  FCOM_Convergence.esm  [Version 0.9.9a7]0B  Better Cities Resources.esm0C  CM Partners.esm0D  HorseCombatMaster.esm0E  Unofficial Oblivion Patch.esp  [Version 3.2.0]0F  DLCShiveringIsles.esp10  Unofficial Shivering Isles Patch.esp  [Version 1.4.0]11  Better Cities .esp12  Francesco's Optional Chance of Stronger Bosses.esp13  Francesco's Optional Chance of Stronger Enemies.esp14  Francesco's Optional Chance of More Enemies.esp15  Francesco's Optional Leveled Guards.esp16  Francesco's Dark Seducer Weapons Patch.esp++  FCOM_Francescos.esp  [Version 0.9.9]++  FCOM_FrancescosItemsAddOn.esp  [Version 0.9.9]17  FCOM_FrancescosNamedBosses.esp  [Version 0.9.9]18  Fran Armor Add-on.esp19  Fran_Lv30Item_Maltz.esp1A  Natural_Habitat_by_Max_Tael.esp1B  All Natural - Real Lights.esp  [Version 0.9.9]1C  All Natural.esp  [Version 0.9.9]1D  All Natural - SI.esp  [Version 0.9.9]1E  All Natural - Atmospheric Weather System.esp  [Version Final]1F  Natural_Water_by_Max_Tael.esp20  ChaseCameraMod.esp21  Living Economy.esp22  Living Economy - Items.esp23  Cutthroat Merchants.esp24  Terran Vampires Beta.esp  [Version 1.31]25  DLCHorseArmor.esp26  DLCOrrery.esp27  DLCVileLair.esp28  DLCMehrunesRazor.esp29  DLCSpellTomes.esp2A  EVE_StockEquipmentReplacer.esp2B  Acolyte_Of_Kynareth_HGEC.esp2C  SG007_Nobody.esp2D  AC2Gear_HGEC.esp2E  DLCThievesDen.esp2F  Slof's Oblivion Robe Trader.esp30  Cobl Glue.esp  [Version 1.72]31  Cobl Si.esp  [Version 1.63]32  OOO 1.32-Cobl.esp  [Version 1.72]++  FCOM_Cobl.esp  [Version 0.9.9]33  Bob's Armory Oblivion.esp34  FCOM_BobsArmory.esp  [Version 0.9.9]35  Loth's Blunt Weapons for Npcs.esp++  FCOM_LothsBluntWeapons.esp  [Version 0.9.9]36  Oblivion WarCry EV.esp37  FCOM_WarCry.esp  [Version 0.9.9]38  Oscuro's_Oblivion_Overhaul.esp  [Version 1.34]39  FCOM_EntropicOrderRebalance.esp  [Version 0.9.9beta2]3A  FCOM_RealSwords.esp  [Version 0.9.9]3B  Mart's Monster Mod - Looting NPCs & Creatures.esp  [Version 3.7b3p3]3C  Mart's Monster Mod - Gems & Gem Dust.esp  [Version 3.7b3p3]3D  Mart's Monster Mod - Hunting & Crafting.esp  [Version 3.7b3p3]3E  Mart's Monster Mod - Farm Animals.esp  [Version 3.7b3p3]3F  Mart's Monster Mod - Diverse WaterLife.esp  [Version 3.7b3p3]++  Mart's Monster Mod - Slof Horses Complete.esp  [Version 3.7b3p3]40  TamrielTravellers4OOO.esp  [Version 1.39c]++  FCOM_TamrielTravelers.esp  [Version 0.9.9]++  FCOM_DiverseGuardUnity.esp  [Version 0.9.9]++  FCOM_BobsGuardUnity.esp  [Version 0.9.9]++  FCOM_HungersUnitySI.esp  [Version 0.9.9]41  Mart's Monster Mod - Shivering Isles.esp  [Version 3.7b3p3]42  Fransfemale.esp43  OOO-WaterFish.esp  [Version 1.34]44  MMM-Cobl.esp  [Version 1.69]45  EVE_StockEquipmentReplacer4FCOM.esp46  EVE_StockEquipmentReplacer for OOO.esp47  EVE_StockEquipmentReplacer4MMM.esp48  GTAesgaard.esp49  Tona's_ModsStore.esp4A  Apachii_Goddess_Store.esp4B  DLCFrostcrag.esp4C  Knights.esp4D  EVE_KnightsoftheNine.esp4E  TOTF.esp++  FCOM_Knights.esp  [Version 0.9.9]4F  FCOM_SlofsRobeTrader.esp  [Version 0.9.9]50  Enhanced Daedric Invasion.esp51  FCOM_EnhancedDaedricInvasion.esp  [Version 0.9.9]++  FCOM_UnofficialFranArmorAddon.esp  [Version 0.9.9]52  Natural_Vegetation_by_Max_Tael.esp53  Harvest [Flora].esp  [Version 3.0.0]54  Harvest [Flora] - Shivering Isles.esp  [Version 3.0.0]55  Harvest [Flora] - DLCVileLair.esp  [Version 3.0.0]56  Harvest [Flora] - DLCFrostcrag.esp  [Version 3.0.0]57  EVE_ShiveringIslesEasterEggs.esp58  Alternative Start by Robert Evrae.esp59  SupremeMagicka.esp  [Version 0.90]5A  SM_ShiveringIsles.esp  [Version 0.86]5B  SM_DLCSpellTome.esp  [Version 0.80]5C  SM_OOO.esp  [Version 0.89]5D  SM_MMM.esp  [Version 0.89]5E  SM_COBL.esp  [Version 0.86]5F  SM_EnchantStaff.esp  [Version 0.80]60  SM_UnlockSpells.esp  [Version 0.70]61  SM_Scrolls.esp  [Version 0.84]62  SM_SigilStone.esp  [Version 0.83]63  MidasSpells.esp64  FearsomeMagicka.esp65  Goranga's prostitution system.esp66  Deadly Reflex 5 - Timed block and 150% damage.esp67  DeadlyReflex 5 - Combat Moves.esp68  SM_DeadlyReflex.esp  [Version 0.86]69  Mayu's Animation Overhaul.esp6A  DMC Stylish - Specialanims.esp6B  X.Races.Comp.esp6C  CM Partners.esp6D  CM Partners Special NPCs.esp6E  CM Partners NPC.esp6F  CM Partners More NPCs.esp70  CM Partners Marker NPCs.esp71  CM Partners Extra NPCs.esp72  Tamara.esp73  nemia.esp++  Cobl Races - Balanced.esp  [Version 1.52]74  Better Cities - Full City Defences.esp75  Better Cities Full.esp76  Better Cities - VWD of the IC.esp77  Better Imperial City.esp78  Better Imperial City FPS Patch.esp79  Better Cities Full FPS Patch.esp7A  ScreenControls.esp7B  OOO-Magic_Script_Effect_Fix.esp  [Version 1.33]7C  Cobl Silent Equip Misc.esp  [Version 01]7D  Bashed Patch, 0.esp


I really hope somebody can help me! :)
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Jessica Colville
 
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Post » Tue May 17, 2011 8:28 am

I wish there was an efficient way for me to gather these comments that I write five times a week...

1. Deactivate green-text, purple-text and italicized-text plugins. (If deactivating one of the latter causes the bashed patch to be deactivated, restart Bash to see if the italicized text is corrected back to normal).

2. 0E Unofficial Oblivion Patch.esp [Version 3.2.0] <-- update with the UOP supplemental, and then you need to add OMOBs on top

3. Remove MMM-Cobl (until the next UFCOM release)

4. 3C Mart's Monster Mod - Gems & Gem Dust.esp [Version 3.7b3p3] <-- already included in OOO, use the OBSE version for OOO if you want a more advanced version

http://sites.google.com/site/oblivionpoinfo/walkthroughs/fcomguide/requiredownloads <-- links to the UOP Supplemental and OMOBS
http://sites.google.com/site/oblivionpoinfo/downloadmods <-- link to the OOO G&GD OBSE module


Edit: Make sure your FCOM BSAs (Fran and MMM) are renamed properly.

http://sites.google.com/site/oblivionpoinfo/intro/archiveinvalidation <-- See "'Real' Examples" section for suggestions, if your BSAs are not renamed
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LuCY sCoTT
 
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Post » Tue May 17, 2011 7:56 am

King

You did need the following;

EVE_StockEquipmentReplacer.esp
EVE_StockEquipmentReplacer for OOO.esp
EVE_StockEquipmentReplacer4MMM.esp

When using EVE_StockEquipmentReplacer4FCOM.esp

Also Mart's Monster Mod - Gems & Gem Dust.esp I think causes problems with FCOM
Plus OOO 1.32-Cobl.esp and MMM-Cobl.esp shouldn't be active with FCOM_Cobl.esp (I think)
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I’m my own
 
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Post » Tue May 17, 2011 1:30 am

never mind, I misread things.

edit: I think furyfish meant "didn't" or "don't" in place of "did", and I didn't realise at first.
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darnell waddington
 
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Post » Tue May 17, 2011 3:15 am

That doesn't quite sound right. Or is it my memory that's at fault here... Hm. I thought the idea was to delete (or not even add in the first place) those ESPs (along with fransfemale I think it's called,) and keep only the FCOM one.

I have to vote for this theory too.

Edit: http://www.gamesas.com/index.php?/topic/1088510-which-eve-clothes-re-placer-esp-to-use/page__p__15866026__fromsearch__1&#entry15866026 - Corepc's response
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Schel[Anne]FTL
 
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Post » Tue May 17, 2011 2:14 am

I did all of the things you guys mentioned, but it still doesn't work! My new loadorder looks like this:

Masters for: quicksave.ess00  Oblivion.esm01  ScreenEffects.esm02  All Natural Base.esm  [Version 0.9.9]03  Francesco's Leveled Creatures-Items Mod.esm04  Francesco's Optional New Items Add-On.esm05  Cobl Main.esm  [Version 1.72]06  Oscuro's_Oblivion_Overhaul.esm  [Version 1.34]07  Mart's Monster Mod.esm  [Version 3.7b3p3]08  Enhanced Daedric Invasion.esm09  TamrielTravellers.esm  [Version 1.39c]0A  FCOM_Convergence.esm  [Version 0.9.9a7]0B  Better Cities Resources.esm0C  CM Partners.esm0D  HorseCombatMaster.esm0E  Unofficial Oblivion Patch.esp  [Version 3.2.5]0F  DLCShiveringIsles.esp10  Unofficial Shivering Isles Patch.esp  [Version 1.4.0]++  MOBS.esp  [Version 1.2.2a]++  MOBS SI.esp  [Version 1.2.2a]11  Better Cities .esp12  Francesco's Optional Chance of Stronger Bosses.esp13  Francesco's Optional Chance of Stronger Enemies.esp14  Francesco's Optional Chance of More Enemies.esp15  Francesco's Optional Leveled Guards.esp16  Francesco's Dark Seducer Weapons Patch.esp++  FCOM_Francescos.esp  [Version 0.9.9]++  FCOM_FrancescosItemsAddOn.esp  [Version 0.9.9]17  FCOM_FrancescosNamedBosses.esp  [Version 0.9.9]18  Fran Armor Add-on.esp19  Fran_Lv30Item_Maltz.esp1A  Natural_Habitat_by_Max_Tael.esp1B  All Natural - Real Lights.esp  [Version 0.9.9]1C  All Natural.esp  [Version 0.9.9]1D  All Natural - SI.esp  [Version 0.9.9]1E  All Natural - Atmospheric Weather System.esp  [Version Final]1F  Natural_Water_by_Max_Tael.esp20  ChaseCameraMod.esp21  Living Economy.esp22  Living Economy - Items.esp23  Cutthroat Merchants.esp24  Terran Vampires Beta.esp  [Version 1.31]25  DLCHorseArmor.esp26  DLCHorseArmor - Unofficial Patch.esp  [Version 1.0.5]27  DLCOrrery.esp28  DLCOrrery - Unofficial Patch.esp  [Version 1.0.3]29  DLCVileLair.esp2A  DLCVileLair - Unofficial Patch.esp  [Version 1.0.5]2B  DLCMehrunesRazor.esp2C  DLCMehrunesRazor - Unofficial Patch.esp  [Version 1.0.4]2D  DLCSpellTomes.esp++  DLCSpellTomes - Unofficial Patch.esp  [Version 1.0.1]2E  Acolyte_Of_Kynareth_HGEC.esp2F  SG007_Nobody.esp30  AC2Gear_HGEC.esp31  DLCThievesDen.esp32  DLCThievesDen - Unofficial Patch.esp  [Version 1.0.5]33  DLCThievesDen - Unofficial Patch - SSSB.esp  [Version 1.0.4]34  Slof's Oblivion Robe Trader.esp35  Cobl Glue.esp  [Version 1.72]36  Cobl Si.esp  [Version 1.63]++  FCOM_Cobl.esp  [Version 0.9.9]37  Bob's Armory Oblivion.esp38  FCOM_BobsArmory.esp  [Version 0.9.9]39  Loth's Blunt Weapons for Npcs.esp++  FCOM_LothsBluntWeapons.esp  [Version 0.9.9]3A  Oblivion WarCry EV.esp3B  FCOM_WarCry.esp  [Version 0.9.9]3C  Oscuro's_Oblivion_Overhaul.esp  [Version 1.34]3D  FCOM_EntropicOrderRebalance.esp  [Version 0.9.9beta2]3E  FCOM_RealSwords.esp  [Version 0.9.9]3F  Mart's Monster Mod - Looting NPCs & Creatures.esp  [Version 3.7b3p3]40  Mart's Monster Mod - Hunting & Crafting.esp  [Version 3.7b3p3]41  Mart's Monster Mod - Farm Animals.esp  [Version 3.7b3p3]42  Mart's Monster Mod - Diverse WaterLife.esp  [Version 3.7b3p3]++  Mart's Monster Mod - Slof Horses Complete.esp  [Version 3.7b3p3]43  TamrielTravellers4OOO.esp  [Version 1.39c]++  FCOM_TamrielTravelers.esp  [Version 0.9.9]++  FCOM_DiverseGuardUnity.esp  [Version 0.9.9]++  FCOM_BobsGuardUnity.esp  [Version 0.9.9]++  FCOM_HungersUnitySI.esp  [Version 0.9.9]44  Mart's Monster Mod - Shivering Isles.esp  [Version 3.7b3p3]45  Fransfemale.esp46  OOO-WaterFish.esp  [Version 1.34]47  EVE_StockEquipmentReplacer4FCOM.esp48  GTAesgaard.esp49  Tona's_ModsStore.esp4A  Apachii_Goddess_Store.esp4B  DLCFrostcrag.esp4C  DLCFrostcrag - Unofficial Patch.esp  [Version 1.0.4]4D  Knights.esp4E  Knights - Unofficial Patch.esp  [Version 1.0.9]4F  EVE_KnightsoftheNine.esp50  TOTF.esp++  FCOM_Knights.esp  [Version 0.9.9]51  FCOM_SlofsRobeTrader.esp  [Version 0.9.9]52  Enhanced Daedric Invasion.esp53  FCOM_EnhancedDaedricInvasion.esp  [Version 0.9.9]++  FCOM_UnofficialFranArmorAddon.esp  [Version 0.9.9]54  Natural_Vegetation_by_Max_Tael.esp55  Harvest [Flora].esp  [Version 3.0.0]56  Harvest [Flora] - Shivering Isles.esp  [Version 3.0.0]57  Harvest [Flora] - DLCVileLair.esp  [Version 3.0.0]58  Harvest [Flora] - DLCFrostcrag.esp  [Version 3.0.0]59  EVE_ShiveringIslesEasterEggs.esp5A  Alternative Start by Robert Evrae.esp5B  SupremeMagicka.esp  [Version 0.90]5C  SM_ShiveringIsles.esp  [Version 0.86]5D  SM_DLCSpellTome.esp  [Version 0.80]5E  SM_OOO.esp  [Version 0.89]5F  SM_MMM.esp  [Version 0.89]60  SM_COBL.esp  [Version 0.86]61  SM_EnchantStaff.esp  [Version 0.80]62  SM_UnlockSpells.esp  [Version 0.70]63  SM_Scrolls.esp  [Version 0.84]64  SM_SigilStone.esp  [Version 0.83]65  MidasSpells.esp66  FearsomeMagicka.esp67  Goranga's prostitution system.esp68  Deadly Reflex 5 - Timed block and 150% damage.esp69  DeadlyReflex 5 - Combat Moves.esp6A  SM_DeadlyReflex.esp  [Version 0.86]6B  Mayu's Animation Overhaul.esp6C  DMC Stylish - Specialanims.esp6D  X.Races.Comp.esp6E  CM Partners.esp6F  CM Partners Special NPCs.esp70  CM Partners NPC.esp71  CM Partners More NPCs.esp72  CM Partners Marker NPCs.esp73  CM Partners Extra NPCs.esp74  Tamara.esp75  nemia.esp++  Cobl Races - Balanced.esp  [Version 1.52]76  Better Cities - Full City Defences.esp77  Better Cities Full.esp78  Better Cities - VWD of the IC.esp79  Better Imperial City.esp7A  Better Imperial City FPS Patch.esp7B  Better Cities Full FPS Patch.esp7C  ScreenControls.esp7D  OOO-Magic_Script_Effect_Fix.esp  [Version 1.33]7E  Cobl Silent Equip Misc.esp  [Version 01]7F  Bashed Patch, 0.esp


I'm pretty sure i did everything you guys mentioned. I thank you for the help given so far!
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Heather Dawson
 
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Post » Tue May 17, 2011 12:31 pm

++ MOBS.esp [Version 1.2.2a]
++ MOBS SI.esp [Version 1.2.2a]

You need to use the OMOBS version linked above :)
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Post » Tue May 17, 2011 6:29 am

http://sites.google.com/site/oblivionpoinfo/walkthroughs/fcomguide/requiredownloads

http://sites.google.com/site/oblivionpoinfo/stabilization/outdatedmods


You still have some plugins activated that can be deactivated (green text, purple text or italicized text, i.e., Fran Weap Fix.)
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Post » Tue May 17, 2011 2:52 pm

http://sites.google.com/site/oblivionpoinfo/walkthroughs/fcomguide/requiredownloads

http://sites.google.com/site/oblivionpoinfo/stabilization/outdatedmods


You still have some plugins activated that can be deactivated (green text, purple text or italicized text, i.e., Fran Weap Fix.)
I did everything you said, but it still doesn't work. I also tried disabling All Natural and Better Cities, but that didn't work either. I guess i'll just do a clean install. Thank you all for the help given!:)
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Post » Tue May 17, 2011 10:04 am

Can you run the game without an issue if you remove the Alternate Start mod? Also, check out the Stabilization and Optimization pages on TESIV:POSItive, as well as the related "Mods" pages in their "Related Pages" sections.
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