The return of flying creatures in TES V, Cliff Racers or not, would be awesome. Something to fill those empty skies.

I'm all for giant bat-dragons with antlers. That hang upside down on trees. Yeah.

Or giant blood thirsty birds of prey, something that's more of a challenge then the annoyance that most people associate with cliff racers. One thing I actually found funny about the complaints people had for flying in morrowind is that they will not attack if they can't see you, just stock up on scrolls of windwalker it doesn't just make you fly like a bat out of hell, it makes you invisible. Buy spells / enchanted items with invisibility or get the amulet of shadows.

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Oh, and @ saint jiub there just seems to be something about your avatar of the progressive insurance lady, she just seems to have those crazy eyes.

Isn't her name Flo?

On another note, I'd like if Bethesda incorperated some insta-kill moments (Like in Red Dead Redemption where you'd be mauled hopelessly by a mountain lion )

Maybe they can incorperate this with the lake vampires.

That would be awesome, but annoying. Perhaps your character should utter, "I have a strange feeling that I should save my game in a completely new slot" before proceeding, like in Fallout 2!

Or include rumors saying "Don't go near that lake! Vampires will kill you! I'm serious, don't do it. You'll die. Do you hear me? YOU'LL DIE!!!"

...which will be hopelessly ignored, and players will still go and get killed, then whine when they forgot to save because they didn't think they would get killed.

Ahhh Skyrim... I just can''t wait! :twirl:

They could even have a quest marker appear and show them a new route via dotted lines, a route that goes around the lake. Then, on top of that and that message you wrote, they could watch a group of adventurers cross the lake and get killed by the vampires, and they will still walk across the lake without saving.

Seti, stop changing your picture. I get used to one, then you go and flip it around and I think you're a different person than the mer-hating man we all know and love...

On Topic:

Also make the lake on the map red, and include the words "DANGER, DO NOT CROSS". And they'll still cross.

Oh, come on. Who could resist at that point? :laugh:

I've found my perfect avatar. It's the symbol of the Divine Crusader.

Actually, that would be really cool, maybe as a scripted event or something, to hear a scream pierce through the darkness, to find a fallen torch or weapon or something lying next to a hole in the ice, the water beneath it rippling conspicuously...

EDIT: Don't think that my participation in this thread means I resent it any less. You guys are a bunch of bullies!

I think we should get the option of being able to fight back, but with only the strong surviving.

I meant this as something that happened to NPCs. As in, you're walking along, when suddenly you hear an Orc (or whatever) yelling for help, but by the time you get there, there's nothing left but whatever he was holding, next to a hole in the ice. Go try to pick up what's left if you dare, I'm sure that axe would fetch a good few Septims in Solitude...

That reminds me, I wonder what the currency will be referred to in ES V. Medes? That would get confusing. "A pitcher of mead? That'll be seven Medes."

You know all die-hard elder scrolls fans will just think it's another Tarhiel and dart their view to the sky expecting to see a falling mage.

...And in the confusion, they stumble too close to the lake and die.

I wonder if the Medes will still be in power eh? They could easily have been over thrown by the time ES V comes around. Maybe that is what book 2 will be about?

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SAIT JIUB NOOOOO!!!! You must retain the Avartar of Flo!

If there's a companion system in TES V, every time I come across a dangerous looking obstacle, I shall send some annoying bosmer ahead just to test if my path is safe.

(How has the disscussion of this topic gone from the morality of St. Jiub to people falling into lakes?)

We should probably get back on topic soon. Before a big scary bear leaps out of the lake and grabs us with his big scary claws.


Have messages pop up as the player progresses across the lake, telling them to stop.

"You can not go that way. Turn back."
"No, really. Turn back."
"You really should turn back."
"I'm warning you!"
"Okay, it's your funeral. I'll stay back here."


I really never understood how currency worked out in these games. In Arena and Daggerfall we just had the default "gold pieces", whilst in Morrowind everybody was calling them Drakes. That seemed like fitting slang for the Bretons and Nords, but it really sounded awkward for the Elves. For TES V, I could imagine them being kept as Septims. To be honest, I think that the name Septim is more fitting for a piece of gold/jewellry than an emperor.

The player could also have "Visions", like a little transparent video appearing in front of him showing a vampire killing him...

Hardly anyone in Morrowind called gold Drakes, and the few that did are just crazies Most people still call it gold.

Is there even any real benefit to being a Saint? Does he just sit in a void getting paid 35 gold everytime somebody wants to fortify their attributes a bit?

*Psst* They hide inside the shrines...

BY THE GODS!

KILL IT WITH FIRE BEFORE IT CAN BREED!

*summons a huge fire spell*

:lol: Thats great!

My idea was to have them be stealthy creatures. Therefor no noise.