Back Again After a Year, Got Some Important Questions

Post » Sat May 28, 2011 11:11 pm

(Sorry when I disappear for a long time sometimes. Our son is autistic, and I homeschool him, so sometimes I need to really focus on family.
And he is a challenge to care for. I got burned out mid last year so had to pull away from my Morrowind projects so not to get too overwhelmed by things...)

First priority for me right now, restore KAGZ' work to several locations, as I got an email a little while back that his work was not all there at ElricM anymore.
Is ElricM a goner of a mod site? What is going on with it right now? I may want to spend a lot of time getting things I had uploaded there to other locations, especially things I uploaded for other modders.
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Victoria Bartel
 
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Post » Sat May 28, 2011 12:46 pm

:wave: redwoodtreesprite! :hugs:

I've not been around much myself but ElricM doesn't really get used for hosting of new mods. I tried (last year?) to upload some things there but it just wasn't working for me. The site is still there and Elric fixes things when they get busted (some script kiddie got managed to inject something ~18 months back, IIRC)

http://planetelderscrolls.gamespy.com/ is, I'd say, the go to place for Morrowind mods currently. Second would be http://www.tesnexus.com/ and then there are other smaller sites, but the only one I can think of right now is http://modhistory.fliggerty.com/index.php. That's more of an archive for Morrowind mods though, it's managed to accumulate mods from other hosting sites that have closed (Gamers Roam, morrowind-mods, Euro-morrowind etc.)

So, things at ElricM currently should be OK. I'd suggest PES as the next location.

For checking up on file status Yacoby's http://search.yacoby.net/ is great, it'll search ElricM, PES, TESNexus and a bunch of other sites (file indexes are updated weekly, IIRC)
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Post » Sat May 28, 2011 7:30 pm

Personally, I use PES and TESNexus.

I feel that the nexus has the most comprehensive controls for displaying and managing your mod's download page. For files under 2MB, people downloading don't have to register with TESNexus. Unfortunately, Nexus has implemented a very annoying feature. If you are not registered, you have to sit through a 40sec or so ad before you can download. If you are registered, you don't have to put up with that except for really big files (I haven't research the file size threshold for ads for non-premium members). It's been a while since I did more than post my mods there, but back in my TESIV downloading days, I found the staff to be very responsive when I reported abusive comments. You do not have to wait for your files to be approved: upload is instant. Updates are also instantly "live" - which makes the "hide your mod from public view" option very handy when you have to update several parts of your mod's download page. I prefer it's rating system (a simple "endorse" or "do not endorse" this file) to PES's 0 to 10 arbitrary grading scheme.

PES doesn't have the same amount of control over the download page. Anyone who wants to dl needs to register with File Planet, regardless of file size. Unlike Nexus, PES now has a feature where you can upload ginormous files (no file size limit), which is good if you plan on making mods with lots of textures and models and don't want to break it up into Part 1, Part 2, Part 3, etc. People downloading from file planet don't have to sit through an ad, though every once in a blue moon someone will come on these forums and be under the impression that you have to pay to be a member - a symptom of File Planet's constant push for people to register for the pay-for-better-service subscription. APY and the staff are very responsive when it comes to you reporting site problems or abusive comments/people abusing the voting system. You have to wait a period of time before your mod goes "live"; file planet has been having brain farts where you have to wait about 10 min before you can actually download (without getting an error) any files that you update. :shrug:

Search system: Nexus' advanced search is more comprehensive than PES's currently. Not that you'd want to use anything other than ES Search 2. :P But, to be fair, there are a few mods that don't seem to pop up on ES Search, despite their existence on PES and/or TESNexus.

I personally do not use ElricM, since my control over the mod is extremely limited (no screenshots, must contact site admins in order to update mod, poor user participation in the voting system). Perhaps it will update with better features one day. Naturally, being one of the first sites of the Morrowind modding scene, it is a grand repository of older mods that aren't around anywhere else.

Another site is that GHF and the Morrowind Modding History - I've heard great things, but haven't uploaded my stuff there, mainly because I can only keep track of so many download sites, and updating a mod would become quite the project if I have to update it across three different systems! :o Problems: people who are not registered have download limits. However, the few times I have tried to dl from there, it says I've reached my dl cap - even when I never downloaded anything there ever before! =/ Not sure if it hates my browser and/or NoScript. At any rate, it hasn't been friendly to me, a non-registered member, whenever I have tried to download a mod. To this date, I have not successfully downloaded a single file from that site. :(

EDIT: Trying to remember if I registered... oh yeah, I think I tried, but it wouldn't give me a link to activate my account, so I still couldn't download diddly-squat. I'm sure I'll figure it out one of these days. All the problems could be on my end, I use several Firefox addons - NoScript might be making the site fussy, I don't know.
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Post » Sat May 28, 2011 9:32 am


Anyone who wants to dl needs to register with File Planet, regardless of file size.
They changed that at the http://planetelderscrolls.gamespy.com/fullstory.php?id=164610:
Fileplanet no longer requires registration
Following the recent problems with their IGN Prime login/subscription page, Fileplanet have decided to take a leap forward in being customer friendly. They no longer require registration!

That means all files on Planet Elder Scrolls can be downloaded directly without registering or logging in to Fileplanet. Of course they still have premium accounts (including perks like access to exclusive betas), but if you're just here to download files, nothing will stand in your way anymore :)
And :wave: @ Alaisiagae, hope the oceanography's going well.
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Post » Sat May 28, 2011 7:21 am

Personally, I use PES and TESNexus.

I feel that the nexus has the most comprehensive controls for displaying and managing your mod's download page. For files under 2MB, people downloading don't have to register with TESNexus. Unfortunately, Nexus has implemented a very annoying feature. If you are not registered, you have to sit through a 40sec or so ad before you can download. If you are registered, you don't have to put up with that except for really big files (I haven't research the file size threshold for ads for non-premium members). It's been a while since I did more than post my mods there, but back in my TESIV downloading days, I found the staff to be very responsive when I reported abusive comments. You do not have to wait for your files to be approved: upload is instant. Updates are also instantly "live" - which makes the "hide your mod from public view" option very handy when you have to update several parts of your mod's download page. I prefer it's rating system (a simple "endorse" or "do not endorse" this file) to PES's 0 to 10 arbitrary grading scheme.


TESNexus also allows you to share server space with necrophillic pormography and [censored] mods. You can be assured that no matter how offensive or vulger your mod is it will not be rated down as the moderators take a firm stance against disrespecting the work of moders. Personnally I feel that anyone who would spend as much time and effort into graphically portraying the [censored], murder and abuse of women as has been done on certain mods is by defination a "bad" person. But never say anything bad about a TESNexus mod.
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Post » Sat May 28, 2011 12:26 pm

I think Fligg is working some fligg fu on a revamp of the GHF download and MMH. ETA i think is still at a when it's done but not to far off. At GHF currently you attach it to a Topic in the Downloads. There is also Wolflore, Jac's site. TESNexus is great if you want to get have you mod available asap but i don't think that there is any checking to see if it's dirty.. PES Does but it takes a while.

Great to see people come back.... Being some what new (In terms of modding) it's nice to see some of the names that you have heard of active..
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Post » Sat May 28, 2011 3:55 pm

i never check nexus. it's the oblivion space for me. i have to admit that this way i missed some things and am really surpised if i find sth useful there by being pointed at.

also pes and ghf are my homebase for mods. wolflore for the advlt stuff (like alienslof).
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Eve Booker
 
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Post » Sat May 28, 2011 5:17 pm

TESNexus also allows you to share server space with necrophillic pormography and [censored] mods. You can be assured that no matter how offensive or vulger your mod is it will not be rated down as the moderators take a firm stance against disrespecting the work of moders. Personnally I feel that anyone who would spend as much time and effort into graphically portraying the [censored], murder and abuse of women as has been done on certain mods is by defination a "bad" person. But never say anything bad about a TESNexus mod.

And this is pertinent, how? The Nexus doesn't censor mods, So, what? :rolleyes:

And to answer the OP, PES and TESNeus are the two biggest sites out there and the Nexus is the best run one.
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Post » Sat May 28, 2011 7:40 am

PES and TESNexus are the top two mod hosting websites. I don't think anyone trusts ElricM any longer after all of the hacker issues. Is ElricM safe now? Can't say that I've bothered to check lately.

Two other hosting sites that are also somewhat popular are http://tesalliance.org/ and http://www.moddb.com/. TES Alliance is rather new I believe and mostly seems to be becoming Oblivion modding involved. Moddb hosts mods for dozens of various games on top of elder scrolls games.
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Post » Sat May 28, 2011 7:55 pm

And this is pertinent, how? The Nexus doesn't censor mods, So, what? :rolleyes:


Nicholiathan gave a perfectly good reason why Redwoodtreesprite might wish to avoid that site. What he said is absolutely true, and mods of that general nature make up the bulk of tesnexus' uploads. That, and there's hardly a Morrowind modding presence there as compared to various other sites. So those are definitely things to take into consideration.

I would personally recommend PES, it seems the most active to me at least, and is fairly simple and straightforward. They've removed the need to register to download mods now, so it's that much simpler for mod users. :)

After that GHF would get my vote.

Also, glad to see you around again Redwood!
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Post » Sat May 28, 2011 11:48 am

Nicholiathan gave a perfectly good reason why Redwoodtreesprite might wish to avoid that site. That, and there's hardly a Morrowind modding presence there as compared to various other sites.

I would personally recommend PES, it seems the most active

After that GHF would get my vote.

This. ^

PES is great. Apy is very friendly and always understands any problems or concerns that arise.
Same with GHF. Fliggerty seems willing to accommodate the wishes of modders, and will even let you build your own webpage for your mod if you need to.
( he'll let you create a page for your walkthrough, for example)
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Post » Sat May 28, 2011 4:10 pm

Nicholiathan gave a perfectly good reason why Redwoodtreesprite might wish to avoid that site. What he said is absolutely true, and mods of that general nature make up the bulk of tesnexus' uploads. That, and there's hardly a Morrowind modding presence there as compared to various other sites. So those are definitely things to take into consideration.


Seriously, "the bulk" ? :facepalm: What Nicholiathan said was flat out wrong.

You are ill informed. Yes there is some, umm, tasteless mods there but as I said they don't censor. Also, the advlt mods are flagged as such. That seems appropriate.

I also find that Buddha and Dark One are the most modder friendly admins and are sensitive to issues of permissions etc. They also will take down and review any mod that gets a complaint. But I would guess that literally 99% are fine and if you bother to search there is a HUGE Morrowind presence on it.
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Post » Sat May 28, 2011 7:28 am

double post
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Post » Sat May 28, 2011 9:11 pm

PES is great. Apy is very friendly and always understands any problems or concerns that arise.
Same with GHF. Fliggerty seems willing to accommodate the wishes of modders, and will even let you build your own webpage for your mod if you need to.
( he'll let you create a page for your walkthrough, for example)

Remember that Fliggerty once were an admin on PES, so he would definitely know when an uploader doesn't have permission for a mod mostly resources from other authors. There is also other unique features on GHF and that's of course the new http://status.fliggerty.com/index.php that Fliggerty created a few weeks ago. This status site is always online and won't be affected from other sites there are hosted on GHF, so you don't need to answer any question about why your mod can't be downloaded. Just link to that site and those questions wouldn't bother you to long.

I agree with Pluto here about the features there is on GHF, but I think he forgot to mention the gallery that any member at GHF can create and upload their own pictures to be linked from threads there or from other forums. Furthermore there is also a forum portal there, which allows you to take a quick look at your uploaded files to see how people has actually downloaded your mod. Another thing you can think it over is of course to host your mods on MMH and you can be certain that Fliggerty takes good care of them, yes even make a request for any mod to be non public if you want.
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Post » Sat May 28, 2011 8:44 am

You can be assured that no matter how offensive or vulger your mod is it will not be rated down as the moderators take a firm stance against disrespecting the work of moders. [...] But never say anything bad about a TESNexus mod.
Isn't this a good thing? I seem to remember that this Morrowind community stands strong against criticizing a mod without any basis simply because someone don't like it. I think constructively criticizing someone elses work is allowed?

Nicholiathan gave a perfectly good reason why Redwoodtreesprite might wish to avoid that site. What he said is absolutely true, and mods of that general nature make up the bulk of tesnexus' uploads.

Not really. I am not saying that there aren't uploads of that nature is but to say that it makes up the bulk of TesNexus uploads is incorrect (As per inspecting sample of new uploads in May).


In my opnion, TES Nexus has the best interface out there for mod uploading and managing mods. The ads on the other hand? Unskippable videos with sound enabled? Not good. There are also some really annoying UI issues.

I also don't think ElricM is that great anymore. The interface used for mods is decidedly dated and it would need a push to get it going again (Key would be using another download system)

The point that TesNexus isn't as active w.r.t Morrowind Mods is true, it only has a couple of thousand mods compared to PESs 6000+. Morrowind mods are also uploaded to PES slightly more I think.
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Post » Sat May 28, 2011 1:50 pm

Surely TESNexus has an awesome interface. Sadly I couldn't use it, because it has a limit of 200 (300?) mb for file and my modpack was 1 GB :P
Anyway PES is awesome too and as said before APY is quick and friendly :)
Never tried GHF but it's good for sure!
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Seriously, "the bulk" ? :facepalm: What Nicholiathan said was flat out wrong.

You are ill informed. Yes there is some, umm, tasteless mods there but as I said they don't censor. Also, the advlt mods are flagged as such. That seems appropriate.

I also find that Buddha and Dark One are the most modder friendly admins and are sensitive to issues of permissions etc. They also will take down and review any mod that gets a complaint. But I would guess that literally 99% are fine and if you bother to search there is a HUGE Morrowind presence on it.


Just so you know, this is Redwood's thread and they wished to know everyone's opinion on various sites, not your opinion on other people's opinions. If you wish to further criticize people, my suggestion would be private messages.
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Post » Sat May 28, 2011 1:12 pm

Just so you know, this is Redwood's thread and they wished to know everyone's opinion on various sites, not your opinion on other people's opinions.

You stated things as if they were fact though. Or it very much read as though you were stating it as a fact. :shrug:
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Post » Sat May 28, 2011 1:29 pm

Alright you two, break it up. :wink:
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Post » Sat May 28, 2011 3:28 pm

Just so you know, this is Redwood's thread and they wished to know everyone's opinion on various sites, not your opinion on other people's opinions. If you wish to further criticize people, my suggestion would be private messages.

Yacoby already said what I would have.

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Post » Sat May 28, 2011 6:41 pm

Hi redwoodtreesprite - as you can see the community hasn't changed much since you were last around :)

I no longer upload/download with ElricM which is a real shame as that was the first mod site i went to and it still has many mods listed there and no where else.

Without getting into hysterics over the main sites - PES is still active with new content on an almost daily basis - or you could check with Emma if she would like to mirror any mods you want uploaded. There are still some very high quality mods at her site.
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Post » Sat May 28, 2011 2:11 pm


Great to see people come back.... Being some what new (In terms of modding) it's nice to see some of the names that you have heard of active..

Yes indeed, its very nice to see redwood is still working on Morrowind. Shes was a part of the community way back before oblivion came and rained on our parade.
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