Lord Nerevar Indoril

Post » Sat May 28, 2011 8:55 am

What do we know about the mer that most of us have been the incarnate of? He was the founder of House Indoril, and a general of the War of the First Council. He always came across to me as a bit ...anonymous...
What do you know about him and his personality, and what should I read to understand him better?
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Jessica White
 
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Post » Sat May 28, 2011 12:21 pm

A Warrior is the expression I gets from the 36 Sermons.
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Rusty Billiot
 
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Post » Sat May 28, 2011 7:40 am

A warrior with good speaking skills.

The sermons and the various books that talk about/mention him are the only sources, like all 36 sermons, and stuff like battle of red mountain, etc.
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sophie
 
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Post » Sat May 28, 2011 5:59 pm

I think a warrior, but from the classes in the game he would fit perfectly into the "knight" class.
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Austin Suggs
 
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Post » Sat May 28, 2011 10:41 pm

I dont know about the Knight class thou, I mean he "murdered" a man.
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Post » Sat May 28, 2011 9:47 am

I dont know about the Knight class thou, I mean he "murdered" a man.

Well then he's a custom class character with most of the skills of a warrior, and speakcraft
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Post » Sat May 28, 2011 11:49 pm

he seems like a diplomat to me. sure, he was a mercenary to begin with, but thats more of his profession than his nature. he is shown as a person who is willing to compromise and who is interested in learning, not like someone who just wants to kick a little ass.
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Post » Sat May 28, 2011 3:09 pm

I believe the character is supposed to be ambiguous in order for you to be able to imagine someone that would fit with our Nerevarine, in the event you choose to believe your Nerevarine was the true reincarnation of him.

He was certainly ambitious though whether for personal gain and power or passionate commitment to an ideal we certainly do not know. I think I agree with Lady N that he was likely very intelligent in at least one sense of the word, possibly a bit unconventional evening, but I am already getting too much into assumption.

Boring answer, but there you go.
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Post » Sat May 28, 2011 10:05 pm

And since he lived in First Era Morrowind, we could also surmise that he was very rascist and xenophobic. Just like the rest of his people.
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Post » Sat May 28, 2011 8:53 am

I believe the character is supposed to be ambiguous in order for you to be able to imagine someone that would fit with our Nerevarine, in the event you choose to believe your Nerevarine was the true reincarnation of him.



I have to disagree slightly. I think the sermons and other in-game Lore seem to strongly suggest the man himself was a Warrior or Knight. (Possibly a Crusader or Spellsword..you get the idea..class mechanics and all that.) He was a general, and very obviously well spoken and educated as well as highly capable with armor and weapons. He was probably not a mage or a healer, or a thief. Afterall, in Tribunal you are given the SWORD of Nerevar, a long blade fitting for a mighty warrior. Not a lockpick or a book of spells. That tells me that Nerevar was probably an elf who liked him some swords.

However as for his INCARNATE, I think that person can be of any class easily. It's the essence of the person and that person's willingness to wrong rights, as well as willingly taking up the mantle of Nerevarine and Hortator more than anything that makes it so. Even if that person isn't the reincarnation that person can "walk like [Nerevar] until [he] walks like [the player character]". Which has more to do with deeds and actions than class or abilities.

He was certainly ambitious though whether for personal gain and power or passionate commitment to an ideal we certainly do not know. I think I agree with Lady N that he was likely very intelligent in at least one sense of the word, possibly a bit unconventional evening, but I am already getting too much into assumption.

Boring answer, but there you go.


No I'd agree with all that actually. Both he and all the Tribunal, and hell, Voryn Dagoth were obviously very eccentric and unconventional people, even for the alien landscape of Morrowind. (Just one attribute among many is that it's strongly hinted each and every one of these people was possibly bisixual, and they were potentially all lovers together - at the very LEAST, Almalexia loved Vivec, Nerevar and Sotha Sil, and Vivec loves all his Bouyant Armigers very much. I'm sure if Dagoth were as close in this circle of friends as was suggested once that he had his fair share of the love as well!)
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Post » Sat May 28, 2011 11:48 pm

I just got a horrible image in my head...

But yes I agree with you Hairdo Galosh Jam, especially
However as for his INCARNATE, I think that person can be of any class easily. It's the essence of the person and that person's willingness to wrong rights, as well as willingly taking up the mantle of Nerevarine and Hortator more than anything that makes it so. Even if that person isn't the reincarnation that person can "walk like [Nerevar] until [he] walks like [the player character]". Which has more to do with deeds and actions than class or abilities.
that part.
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Post » Sat May 28, 2011 5:21 pm

No I'd agree with all that actually. Both he and all the Tribunal, and hell, Voryn Dagoth were obviously very eccentric and unconventional people, even for the alien landscape of Morrowind. (Just one attribute among many is that it's strongly hinted each and every one of these people was possibly bisixual, and they were potentially all lovers together - at the very LEAST, Almalexia loved Vivec, Nerevar and Sotha Sil, and Vivec loves all his Bouyant Armigers very much. I'm sure if Dagoth were as close in this circle of friends as was suggested once that he had his fair share of the love as well!)


I just got a horrible image in my head...


Me too. Now I feel like I want to delete my fan-fiction and go take an extremely hot, sterilizing bath.
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Post » Sat May 28, 2011 6:05 pm

No I'd agree with all that actually. Both he and all the Tribunal, and hell, Voryn Dagoth were obviously very eccentric and unconventional people, even for the alien landscape of Morrowind. (Just one attribute among many is that it's strongly hinted each and every one of these people was possibly bisixual, and they were potentially all lovers together - at the very LEAST, Almalexia loved Vivec, Nerevar and Sotha Sil, and Vivec loves all his Bouyant Armigers very much. I'm sure if Dagoth were as close in this circle of friends as was suggested once that he had his fair share of the love as well!)


Disturbing as this is, I can see quite clearly why you might think it. And, frankly, I think it ties together Nerevar's story very well, albeit in a strange uncomfortable kind of way. Suffice it to say I'll never look at that group of people in the same kind of way again.

And since he lived in First Era Morrowind, we could also surmise that he was very rascist and xenophobic. Just like the rest of his people.


As logical as this may seem, I think it jars with what we know of Nerevar. After all he was supposedly close friends with Dumac Dwarfking, and it seems to me that the most racist of the Chimer were likely the ones most determined to keep them divided into Houses and tribes, and thus some of Nerevar's greatest enemies (as he, ultimately, was the uniter of the Chimer people). I would not go so far as to suppose Nerevar was progressive, but I would guess he was somewhat more open than the majority of the Chimer.
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Post » Sat May 28, 2011 10:39 pm

I doubt Nerevar was a racist, especially if he chooses to reincarnate into an Argonian body, for instance, which is up to the player, true, but "I am all are we" and the player IS Nerevar.
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Post » Sat May 28, 2011 2:22 pm

I doubt Nerevar was a racist, especially if he chooses to reincarnate into an Argonian body, for instance, which is up to the player, true, but "I am all are we" and the player IS Nerevar.

i doubt nerevar would have a choice in who he would reincarnate into
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Post » Sat May 28, 2011 4:47 pm

Which was what he just said.

But it would be quite interesting to see the faces of the Dunmers when their Nerevar is either a Khajiit or Argonian.
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Post » Sat May 28, 2011 1:15 pm

He sounds to me like the "inspiration to all hero's" and a typical god icon. A one in a million chimer that does everything for the good of his people. Though that could be because of the way he's portrayed.
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Post » Sat May 28, 2011 10:27 pm

Apparantly, he was gullible. :P Perhaps even naive. After all, his trusted friends killed him.
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Post » Sat May 28, 2011 10:38 am

Dude,

I beg to disagree. Witness the twenty-second:

The monster accepted Muatra with a peaceful look and his bones became the foundation for the City of the Dead, anon [Necrom].
Nerevar put away his axe, which he had at the ready, and frowned.
'Why,' he said, 'did you ask me to come if you knew the eighth monster would give in so easily?'
Vivec looked at the Hortator for a long time.
Nerevar understood. 'Do not betray your nature. Answer as you will.'
Vivec said, 'I brought you here because I knew the mightiest of my issue would succumb to Muatra without argument, if only I gave him consolation first.'
Nerevar looked at Vivec for a long time.
Vivec understood. 'Say the words, Hortator.'
Nerevar said, 'Now I am the mightiest of your children.'
Let this sermon be consolation to those who read it that are destined to die.

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Post » Sat May 28, 2011 1:58 pm

How I always imagined Nerevar was a very mysterious man, I think they didn't go into too much detail on purpose just because of his reincarnation into whatever the player chooses, and do things however the player sees fit, he could've been racists, he could've not cared. Just as you have the decision to free a slave or return him to where he escaped from. I think everyone should just have there own interpretation of an ancient ancestor from whatever kind of character you are playing.
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