What is Umbriel/The Infernal City all about?

Post » Sat May 28, 2011 11:35 am

If you have access to the internet, you have access to the book.

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Francesca
 
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Post » Sat May 28, 2011 8:28 am

Read the book? :confused:
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Post » Sat May 28, 2011 1:08 pm

Well in my opinion it's like this:
If you want stereotypical fantasy fiction with flawless heroes and constant action steer clear.

If you want a novel that takes place in the Elder Scrolls universe that isn't only about combat and that has more realistic characters with plenty of personal flaws then you might like it. I loved the book so much for that reason. The heroes are anything but perfect. I like that.

I really hope the characters are referenced in the game. What lasting impact will the heroes have had 200 years later? I'm hoping their names will still be known!
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Post » Sat May 28, 2011 11:00 am

-There is a 160 year gap there! So How can anyone be sure of the state of things in Morrowind since then? The Dunmer could have made a resurgence for all we know.


We wont know until Skyrim is announced... the second book will likely pick up where the first left off (due to the massive cliffhanger) so we'll have to wait until Skyrim to find out more.
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Post » Sat May 28, 2011 8:36 am

Well in my opinion it's like this:
If you want stereotypical fantasy fiction with flawless heroes and constant action steer clear.

If you want a novel that takes place in the Elder Scrolls universe that isn't only about combat and that has more realistic characters with plenty of personal flaws then you might like it. I loved the book so much for that reason. The heroes are anything but perfect. I like that.

I really hope the characters are referenced in the game. What lasting impact will the heroes have had 200 years later? I'm hoping their names will still be known!


All the characters in the book svcked...except for maybe that one badass Dunmer
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Post » Sat May 28, 2011 7:50 am

I hate to say it, but the book itself is pretty bad. I would have never bothered if it weren't for the ES lore (which made me sad).

By the way, does anyone know what has happened to Morrowind since the events that took place in the Infernal City? Since that was only 4 decades after Oblivion a lot could have happened


When Lord of Souls comes out, we will find out what will happen in the gap. The two books are supposed to be the bridges between Oblivion and Skyrim seeing as how this is the biggest time skip by far. The first four games all took place within the life span of emperor Uriel Septim VII, so yeah, 200 years is a big gap to close. If anyone hasn't taken the title into consideration, Lord of Souls either refers to Umbra or to Clavicus Vile (I'm going with Clavicus)
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Post » Sat May 28, 2011 1:11 pm

All the characters in the book svcked...except for maybe that one badass Dunmer


Umbra, Vuhon and Clavicus Vile were my favorite heroes in that book, they rocked, I don't know what your talking about. Also, who the good and bad guys are subjective :tongue: I say the pesky people trying to save Tamriel are the villains.
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Post » Sat May 28, 2011 11:16 am

When Lord of Souls comes out, we will find out what will happen in the gap. The two books are supposed to be the bridges between Oblivion and Skyrim seeing as how this is the biggest time skip by far. The first four games all took place within the life span of emperor Uriel Septim VII, so yeah, 200 years is a big gap to close. If anyone hasn't taken the title into consideration, Lord of Souls either refers to Umbra or to Clavicus Vile (I'm going with Clavicus)


I don't see how they'll pull that off. If you've read the book you'll know that the ending is such a cliffhanger that it feels as if the two books were just separated from one big one. The next one will obviously be resolving the cliffhanger, or rather the three cliffhangers, one for each main character. So unless they somehow skip ahead another few decades at some point in the story, the gap between the books and Skyrim will remain open. I'm sure Bethesda's filled the gaps with plenty of books in the game though...
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Post » Sat May 28, 2011 8:41 pm

Clavicus Vile was only mentioned in it a handful of times :P

The book was kind of boring, though... But probably worth a read if you want an idea of what happens in a bit more detail. But I really dislike Keyes's writing style, and his lack of italics (or anything else) while he made characters think was slightly annoying. I'll buy the next book only because I want to know what happens next, but I probably won't enjoy it much. Unless Keyes decides to be a good writer this time around. Now I see why so many people were upset about Keyes being the author when the novels were announced.
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Post » Sat May 28, 2011 6:30 pm

I don't see how they'll pull that off. If you've read the book you'll know that the ending is such a cliffhanger that it feels as if the two books were just separated from one big one. The next one will obviously be resolving the cliffhanger, or rather the three cliffhangers, one for each main character. So unless they somehow skip ahead another few decades at some point in the story, the gap between the books and Skyrim will remain open. I'm sure Bethesda's filled the gaps with plenty of books in the game though...


I'm sure there is someway to tie it in. I didn't feel that the cliffhanger at the end of the first book was large enough to warrant an entire book to resolve it. The Lord of Souls is supposed to tie in Oblivion and Skyrim so we shall see.
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Post » Sat May 28, 2011 7:45 am

Umbra, Vuhon and Clavicus Vile were my favorite heroes in that book, they rocked, I don't know what your talking about. Also, who the good and bad guys are subjective :tongue: I say the pesky people trying to save Tamriel are the villains.


Yeah all those guys were all right, and I thought it was cool how Umbra was involved in the book, but none of those are the main characters. Annaig and her Argonian friend are fueled simply by their repeating of the phrase "We have to do something!" (you never figure out exactly what). The whole kitchen concept seemed like a Spirited Away rip off to me. And Prince Attrebus is, for some completely inexplicable reason, a huge [censored]. But I guess I will have to wait and see until the next book comes out.
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Post » Sat May 28, 2011 3:48 pm

This thread is walking a fine line between having nothing to do with Skyrim, and possibly directly relating to it.
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Post » Sat May 28, 2011 9:17 pm

We wont know until Skyrim is announced... the second book will likely pick up where the first left off (due to the massive cliffhanger) so we'll have to wait until Skyrim to find out more.

This, i'm sure much will be covered in the second book then the game.
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Post » Sat May 28, 2011 3:59 pm

When Lord of Souls comes out, we will find out what will happen in the gap. The two books are supposed to be the bridges between Oblivion and Skyrim seeing as how this is the biggest time skip by far. The first four games all took place within the life span of emperor Uriel Septim VII, so yeah, 200 years is a big gap to close. If anyone hasn't taken the title into consideration, Lord of Souls either refers to Umbra or to Clavicus Vile (I'm going with Clavicus)

Well the island kind of takes souls and such so the lord of souls could be someone on the floting island.
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Post » Sat May 28, 2011 4:04 pm

you can find more info about it online... UESP might have info on it.

its NOT the dwemer... they're GONE! they DO. NOT. EXIST. anymore...

its not a FORTRESS... its a floating CITY...

you really need to read the book, get it on amazon... unless someone wants to take 200 posts to explain everything...

the second part of the book is coming out in september, so we dont know everything, anyway.

also, the infernal city takes place 40 years after oblivion... 160 before skyrim... so NO, i highly doubt it'll effect skyrim, considering we havent seen images of skyrim utterly destroyed and all life of tamriel erased from existence.

you can get access to it, im sure, if its not sold where you live, thats why we have online stores, the internet reaches everywhere.

sorry if i sound harsh, but thats just how i am... theres plenty of sources for info on the book, and the games.
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Post » Sat May 28, 2011 12:36 pm

An heir to the throne is a main character in the book. I don't see how it's all that odd to imagine that his actions could somehow affect the course of history between Oblivion and Skyrim.

As to the person calling the characters bad, Attrebus in particular...
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They are flawed. They aren't stereotypical bada**es, and that's why I like them. Attrebus has lead a live of orchestrated "heroic" actions that he thought were real until the book. He's been torn down to nothingness and now he has to learn to find himself. I think he has enormous potential. I hope he goes down in the history books because he may not be a great potential ruler of the Empire in the first book but the events of both books may shape him into a respectable leader. The fact that he starts off as a naive and helpless buffoon is the point.

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Post » Sat May 28, 2011 8:50 am

I felt the plot to be just a little thin, but the dialogue was very well done. If you know very little of TES then you'll be lost from pages 2-288.

All the characters in the book svcked...except for maybe that one badass Dunmer


Sul was a badass, but I kinda liked Colin as well.


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Post » Sat May 28, 2011 5:28 pm

Imho, the book one of the worse books that I have read lately. The fact that I'm Elder Scrolls fan does not make it any better. A western novel that I bought for 1€ on street was written better then it.

I admit that I hate the most of new lore from the book, but I don't let that affect my judgement of book's quality.
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Post » Sat May 28, 2011 3:46 pm

Why is it above Leyawiin? What is it's purpose? Is it gone? Who is operating it? Could it be the Dwemer? Will this affect Skyrim?

Its destination is the Imperial City, so it's floating that-a-ways. I don't know. No; from where? Umbra, through Vuhon. No, it could not be the Dwemer. It's likely to affect Cyrodiil, and possibly Skyrim.

http://www.amazon.com/Lord-Souls-Elder-Scrolls-Novel/dp/0345508025/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1296249528&sr=8-1
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Post » Sat May 28, 2011 2:43 pm

Don't you know, it's Howl's Moving Castle. :whisper:


I love that movie :D
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