BTB's Game Improvements & The Raiders of the Lost Topic : III - Morrowind

» Sun Aug 08, 2010 8:26 am

All righty, here's what else is going on in the world of armor...

* Bear and Snow Bear armor is a bit too overpowered, so I'm scaling it back down to the same level as Wolf armor. This puts regular Bear armor at just a little better than Bonemold (thus making it worth it to go get early on, but not *that* worth it) and snow bear just a little weaker than Dreugh (with the advantage that there's nearly a full set of it).

* Dark Brotherhood gear is getting scaled back from 30 to 25. This gives me some extra room to make more equipment that's preferable to it.

* Indoril armor is really hard to deal with, since you can harvest it as soon as you're able to take out Ordinators. I've moved it back to an armor rating of 40, which makes it equal to Dreugh. Conveniently enough, the two pieces of Indoril equipmnent that will piss off Ordinators (the cuirass and helm) are available as Dreugh equipment. For further balance, I'll be lowering the durability of Indoril equipment (one of the fundamental flaws of equipment that's more for show than for effectiveness) and greatly raising the health of Adamantium equipment (which in turn will help it out against Royal Guard armor). The only problem I see with this is that it will render Dreugh equipment essentially superior to Indoril equipment in every way... unless I make Indoril equipment lighter or increase the enchant capacity.

*I'm swapping the effectiveness and Ebony and Nordic Mail armor back around, since Ebony is fairly effectively balanced by being frickin' heavy as all hell.

*Dwemer Armor is getting another boost from 30 to 40. I'm currently working on closing the gap left behind by raising the effectiveness of Steel, Imperial Steel, and Ancient Steel.

One of the flaws of the original game is that the medium armor options were inferior to the light and heavy armor options. The expansions fixed that apparently. I hope you keep that in mind.

» Sun Aug 08, 2010 10:16 pm

One of the flaws of the original game is that the medium armor options were inferior to the light and heavy armor options. The expansions fixed that apparently. I hope you keep that in mind.

Half of the armor I'm talking about is from the expansions.

And, for the record, the expansions didn't fix a damn thing. All they did was add a bunch of stuff that was very obviously "oh, crap, we didn't include enough of this in the original game! Let's grossly overcompensate while failing horribly to integrate all of this new stuff in!" For a very good example of this, see the original effects of the Tribunal alchemy ingredients.

» Sun Aug 08, 2010 9:09 pm

Current changelist:

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? Nordic Fur Bracer - weight from default (1.5) to 0.5

? Nordic Fur Gauntlet - weight from default (1.5) to 1.0, health from default (25) to 50

? Nordic Fur Pauldron - weight from default (3.0) to 1.0

? Nordic Fur Helm - weight from default (1.5) to 1.0

? Nordic Fur Boots - weight from default (6.0) to 2.0

? Nordic Fur Greaves - weight from default (5.4) to 2.0

? Nordic Fur Cuirass - weight from default (9.0) to 3.0

? Nordic Bearskin Cuirass - weight from default (9.0) to 6.0, health from default (150) to 200

? Nordic Leather Shield - weight from default (4.5) to 2.0

? Netch Leather Gauntlet - value from default (7) to 25, health from default (25) to 100

? Netch Leather Pauldron - value from default (12) to 25, health from default (50) to 150

? Netch Leather Helm - value from default (15) to 50, health from default (50) to 150

? Netch Leather Boots - value from default (10) to 50, health from default (50) to 150

? Netch Leather Greaves - value from default (22) to 50, health from default (50) to 150

? Netch Leather Cuirass - value from default (35) to 100, health from default (150) to 250

? Netch Leather Shield - value from default (17) to 100, health from default (100) to 200

? Netch Leather Tower Shield - value from default (25) to 150, health from default (100) to 250

? Boiled Netch Leather Helm - value from default (17) to 150, health from default (70) to 200

? Boiled Netch Leather Cuirass - value from default (37) to 250, health from default (210) to 300

? Chitin Gauntlet - value from 9 to 50

? Chitin Pauldron - value from 16 to 50

? Chitin Helm - value from 19 to 100

? Chitin Mask Helm - value from 19 to 200, health from 100 to 150

? Chitin Boots - value from 13 to 100

? Chitin Greaves - value from 29 to 100

? Chitin Cuirass - value from 45 to 150, health from default (300) to 200

? Chitin Shield - value from 22 to 150, health from default (200) to 150

? Chitin Tower Shield - value from 32 to 200, health from default (240) to 200

? Imperial Studded Leather Cuirass - value from default (65) to 300, health from default (300) to 250

? Imperial Newtscale Cuirass - value from default (100) to 500

? Telvanni Dust Adept Helm - value from default (30) to 200, armor rating from default (5) to 15

? Telvanni Mole Crab Helm - value from default (19) to 250, armor rating from default (6) to 15

? Telvanni Cephalopod Helm - value from default (50) to 300, armor rating from default (8) to 15

? Redoran Watchman's Helm - value from default (24) to 500, armor rating from default (11) to 15

? Nordic Ringmail Cuirass - health from default (300) to 100, value from default (80) to 25

? Imperial Dragonscale Cuirass - value from default (340) to 750, armor rating from 20 to 25

? Imperial Dragonscale Helm - value from default (130) to 500, armor rating from 20 to 25

? Imperial Dragonscale Tower Shield - value from default (230) to 750, armor rating from 20 to 25, renamed from "Dragonscale Tower Shield"

? Bear Bracer - armor rating from 30 to 20

? Bear Boots - armor rating from 30 to 20

? Bear Pauldron - armor rating from 30 to 20

? Bear Greaves - armor rating from 30 to 20

? Bear Helm - armor rating from 30 to 20

? Bear Shield - armor rating from 30 to 20

? Bear Cuirass - armor rating from 30 to 20

? Snow Bear Gauntlet - armor rating from 45 to 35

? Snow Bear Boots - armor rating from 45 to 35

? Snow Bear Pauldron - armor rating from 45 to 35

? Snow Bear Greaves - armor rating from 45 to 35

? Snow Bear Helm - armor rating from 45 to 35

? Snow Bear Cuirass - armor rating from 45 to 35

? Nordic Mail Gauntlet - value from default (1,000) to 500, armor rating from 60 to 50

? Nordic Mail Boots - value from default (5,000) to 1,000, armor rating from 60 to 50

? Nordic Mail Pauldron - armor rating from 60 to 50

? Nordic Mail Greaves- value from default (2,000) to 1,000, armor rating from 60 to 50

? Nordic Mail Helm - armor rating from 60 to 50

? Nordic Mail Shield - armor rating from 60 to 50

? Nordic Mail Cuirass - value from default (5,000) to 2,000, armor rating from 60 to 50

? Dwemer Bracer - armor rating from 30 to 40

? Dwemer Boots - armor rating from 30 to 40

? Dwemer Pauldron - armor rating from 30 to 40

? Dwemer Greaves - armor rating from 30 to 40

? Dwemer Helm - armor rating from 30 to 40

? Dwemer Shield - armor rating from 30 to 40

? Dwemer Cuirass - armor rating from 30 to 40

? Ebony Bracer - armor rating from 50 to default (60)

? Ebony Boots - armor rating from 50 to default (60)

? Ebony Pauldron - armor rating from 50 to default (60)

? Ebony Greaves - armor rating from 50 to default (60)

? Ebony Helm - armor rating from 50 to default (60)

? Ebony Shield - armor rating from 50 to default (60)

? Ebony Cuirass - armor rating from 50 to default (60)

? Ebony Tower Shield - armor rating from 50 to default (60)

? Indoril Gauntlet - health from default (225) to 100, armor rating from 50 to 40

? Indoril Boots - health from default (450) to 200, armor rating from 50 to 40

? Indoril Pauldron - health from default (450) to 200, armor rating from 50 to 40

? Indoril Helm - health from default (450) to 200, armor rating from 50 to 40

? Indoril Shield - health from default (900) to 400, armor rating from 50 to 40

? Indoril Cuirass - health from default (1350) to 600, armor rating from 50 to 40

? Adamantium Bracer - health from default (200) to 500

? Adamantium Boots - health from default (400) to 1,000

? Adamantium Greaves - health from default (400) to 1,000

? Adamantium Pauldron - health from default (400) to 1,000

? Adamantium Helm - health from default (900) to 1,000

? Adamantium Cuirass - health from default (900) to 1,500

? Dwemer Boots of Flying - armor rating from 30 to 40

? Shield of Wounds - armor rating from 30 to 40

? Shadow Shield - armor rating from 30 to 40

? Saint's Shield - armor rating from 50 to default (60)

? Spirit of Indoril - health from default (900) to 400, armor rating from 50 to 40

? Succour of Indoril - health from default (900) to 400, armor rating from 50 to 40

? Dwemer Battle Shield - armor rating from 40 to 45

? Gondolier's Helm - armor rating from default (1) to ?

? Gauntlet(s) of Glory - weight from default (1.5) to 1.0, health from default (25) to 50

? The Icecap - weight from default (1.5) to 1.0

? Merisan Cuirass - value from default (55) to 150, health from default (150) to 250

? Glove of Horny Fist - value from default (10) to 100, health from default (25) to 100

? Veloth's Tower Shield - value from default (150) to 200, health from default (100) to 250

? Chest of Fire - health from default (300) to 200

? The Chiding Cuirass - health from default (300) to 200

? Merisan Helm - value from default (45) to 150

? Velothian Helm - value from default (75) to 150

? Gauntlet of Horny Fist - value from default (15) to 150

? Velothian Shield - value from default (85) to 200, health from default (200) to 150

? Shield of the Undaunted - value from default (85) to 250, health from default (200) to 150

? Vivec Ashmask - value from 500 to 100

? Demon Cephalopod - armor rating from default (8) to 15

? Devil Cephalopod Helm - armor rating from default (8) to 15

? Gothren's Cephalopod Helm - armor rating from default (8) to 15

? Demon Helm - armor rating from default (5) to 15

? Devil Helm - armor rating from default (5) to 15

? Fiend Helm - armor rating from default (5) to 15

? Demon Mole Crab - armor rating from default (6) to 15

? Devil Mole Crab Helm - armor rating from default (6) to 15

? Boots of Blinding Speed - health from default (50) to 150

? Riekling Shield - armor rating from 12 to 15

Heavy armor is all that's left.

» Sun Aug 08, 2010 4:16 pm

Ok, for heavy armor it looks like I'll be raising the AR for Nordic Trollbone and then jacking up the value and and weight to compensate. Will also be giving the same treatment to Imperial Templar armor. I'm thinking 30 for the former and 25 for the latter. This will help close the gap between all the lower-end stuff and Dwemer, though it's a bit hindered (or balanced, depending on your outlook) buy the fact that it's not a complete set.

I don't see Iron, Steel, or Imperial Steel/Silver needing any re-balancing, though that Nordic Iron stuff definitely needs something done with it.

» Sun Aug 08, 2010 5:05 pm

Ok, I think this is everything:

Spoiler

? Nordic Fur Bracer - weight from default (1.5) to 0.5

? Nordic Fur Gauntlet - weight from default (1.5) to 1.0, health from default (25) to 50

? Nordic Fur Pauldron - weight from default (3.0) to 1.0

? Nordic Fur Helm - weight from default (1.5) to 1.0

? Nordic Fur Boots - weight from default (6.0) to 2.0

? Nordic Fur Greaves - weight from default (5.4) to 2.0

? Nordic Fur Cuirass - weight from default (9.0) to 3.0

? Nordic Bearskin Cuirass - weight from default (9.0) to 6.0, health from default (150) to 200

? Nordic Leather Shield - weight from default (4.5) to 2.0

? Netch Leather Gauntlet - value from default (7) to 25, health from default (25) to 100

? Netch Leather Pauldron - value from default (12) to 25, health from default (50) to 150

? Netch Leather Helm - value from default (15) to 50, health from default (50) to 150

? Netch Leather Boots - value from default (10) to 50, health from default (50) to 150

? Netch Leather Greaves - value from default (22) to 50, health from default (50) to 150

? Netch Leather Cuirass - value from default (35) to 100, health from default (150) to 250

? Netch Leather Shield - value from default (17) to 100, health from default (100) to 200

? Netch Leather Tower Shield - value from default (25) to 150, health from default (100) to 250

? Boiled Netch Leather Helm - value from default (17) to 150, health from default (70) to 200

? Boiled Netch Leather Cuirass - value from default (37) to 250, health from default (210) to 300

? Chitin Gauntlet - value from 9 to 50

? Chitin Pauldron - value from 16 to 50

? Chitin Helm - value from 19 to 100

? Chitin Mask Helm - value from 19 to 200, health from 100 to 150

? Chitin Boots - value from 13 to 100

? Chitin Greaves - value from 29 to 100

? Chitin Cuirass - value from 45 to 150, health from default (300) to 200

? Chitin Shield - value from 22 to 150, health from default (200) to 150

? Chitin Tower Shield - value from 32 to 200, health from default (240) to 200

? Imperial Studded Leather Cuirass - value from default (65) to 300, health from default (300) to 250

? Imperial Newtscale Cuirass - value from default (100) to 500

? Telvanni Dust Adept Helm - value from default (30) to 200, armor rating from default (5) to 15

? Telvanni Mole Crab Helm - value from default (19) to 250, armor rating from default (6) to 15

? Telvanni Cephalopod Helm - value from default (50) to 300, armor rating from default (8) to 15

? Redoran Watchman's Helm - value from default (24) to 500, armor rating from default (11) to 15

? Gondolier's Helm - health from default (100) to 200, armor rating from default (1) to 5

? Nordic Ringmail Cuirass - health from default (300) to 100, value from default (80) to 25

? Imperial Dragonscale Cuirass - value from default (340) to 750, armor rating from 20 to 25

? Imperial Dragonscale Helm - value from default (130) to 500, armor rating from 20 to 25

? Imperial Dragonscale Tower Shield - value from default (230) to 750, armor rating from 20 to 25, renamed from "Dragonscale Tower Shield"

? Imperial Templar Bracer - value from default (25) to 100, weight from default (5.0) to 10.0, armor rating from default (18) to 25

? Imperial Templar Pauldron - value from default (60) to 100, weight from default (10.0) to 15.0, armor rating from default (18) to 25

? Imperial Templar Boots - value from default (50) to 250, weight from default (20.0) to 30.0, armor rating from default (18) to 25

? Imperial Templar Helmet - value from default (75) to 250, weight from default (5.0) to 10.0, armor rating from default (18) to 25

? Imperial Templar Greaves - value from default (110) to 250, weight from default (18.0) to 30.0, armor rating from default (18) to 25

? Imperial Templar Cuirass - value from default (175) to 500, weight from default (30.0) to 45.0, armor rating from default (18) to 25, renamed from "Imperial Templar Knight Cuirass"

? Iron Bracer - value from default (10) to 5

? Iron Gauntlet - value from default (14) to 10), health from default (5) to 100
iron_gauntlet_right, enchantment: "10" -> "25"

? Iron Pauldron - value from default (10) to 5

? Iron Helmet - value fromd efault (30) to 10

? Iron Shield - value from default (34) to 10

? Iron Boots - value from default (20) to 10, health from default (450) to 100

? Iron Cuirass - value from default (70) to 25, health from default (2,000) to 200

? Iron Tower Shield - value from default (50) to 25

? Nordic Iron Helm - value from default (50) to 100, health from default (160) to 300, weight from default (8.0) to 20.0

? Nordic Iron Cuirass - value from default (130) to 200, health from default (480) to 600, weight from default (35.0) to 45.0

? Nordic Trollbone Cuirass - weight from default (32.0) to 45.0, value from default (165) to 750, armor rating from default (18) to 30

? Nordic Trollbone Helm - weight from default (8.0) to 15.0, value from default (65) to 500, armor rating from default (18) to 30

? Nordic Trollbone Shield - weight from default (16.0) to 30.0, value from default (78) to 500, armor rating from default (18) to 30

? Nordic Mail Gauntlet - value from default (1,000) to 500, armor rating from 60 to 50

? Nordic Mail Boots - value from default (5,000) to 1,000, armor rating from 60 to 50

? Nordic Mail Pauldron - armor rating from 60 to 50

? Nordic Mail Greaves- value from default (2,000) to 1,000, armor rating from 60 to 50

? Nordic Mail Helm - armor rating from 60 to 50

? Nordic Mail Shield - armor rating from 60 to 50

? Nordic Mail Cuirass - value from default (5,000) to 2,000, armor rating from 60 to 50

? Ancient Steel Gauntlet - armor rating from 20 to ?

? Ancient Steel Boots - armor rating from 20 to ?

? Ancient Steel Pauldron - armor rating from 20 to ?

? Ancient Steel Greaves - armor rating from 20 to ?

? Ancient Steel Helm - armor rating from 20 to ?

? Ancient Steel Cuirass - armor rating from 20 to ?

? Bear Bracer - armor rating from 30 to 20

? Bear Boots - armor rating from 30 to 20

? Bear Pauldron - armor rating from 30 to 20

? Bear Greaves - armor rating from 30 to 20

? Bear Helm - armor rating from 30 to 20

? Bear Shield - armor rating from 30 to 20

? Bear Cuirass - armor rating from 30 to 20

? Snow Bear Gauntlet - armor rating from 45 to default (35)

? Snow Bear Boots - armor rating from 45 to default (35)

? Snow Bear Pauldron - armor rating from 45 to default (35)

? Snow Bear Greaves - armor rating from 45 to default (35)

? Snow Bear Helm - armor rating from 45 to default (35)

? Snow Bear Cuirass - armor rating from 45 to default (35)

? Dwemer Bracer - armor rating from 30 to 40

? Dwemer Boots - armor rating from 30 to 40

? Dwemer Pauldron - armor rating from 30 to 40

? Dwemer Greaves - armor rating from 30 to 40

? Dwemer Helm - armor rating from 30 to 40

? Dwemer Shield - armor rating from 30 to 40

? Dwemer Cuirass - armor rating from 30 to 40

? Ebony Bracer - armor rating from 50 to default (60)

? Ebony Boots - armor rating from 50 to default (60)

? Ebony Pauldron - armor rating from 50 to default (60)

? Ebony Greaves - armor rating from 50 to default (60)

? Ebony Helm - armor rating from 50 to default (60)

? Ebony Shield - armor rating from 50 to default (60)

? Ebony Cuirass - armor rating from 50 to default (60)

? Ebony Tower Shield - armor rating from 50 to default (60)

? Indoril Gauntlet - health from default (225) to 100, armor rating from 50 to 40

? Indoril Boots - health from default (450) to 200, armor rating from 50 to 40

? Indoril Pauldron - health from default (450) to 200, armor rating from 50 to 40

? Indoril Helm - health from default (450) to 200, armor rating from 50 to 40

? Indoril Shield - health from default (900) to 400, armor rating from 50 to 40

? Indoril Cuirass - health from default (1350) to 600, armor rating from 50 to 40

? Adamantium Bracer - health from default (200) to 500

? Adamantium Boots - health from default (400) to 1,000

? Adamantium Greaves - health from default (400) to 1,000

? Adamantium Pauldron - health from default (400) to 1,000

? Adamantium Helm - health from default (900) to 1,000

? Adamantium Cuirass - health from default (900) to 1,500

? Bloodworm Helm - armor rating from default (18) to 30

? Boots of Blinding Speed - health from default (50) to 200

? Chest of Fire - health from default (300) to 200

? The Chiding Cuirass - health from default (300) to 200

? Demon Cephalopod Helm - armor rating from default (8) to 15

? Demon Mole Crab Helm - armor rating from default (6) to 15

? Demon Helm - armor rating from default (5) to 15

? Devil Cephalopod Helm - armor rating from default (8) to 15

? Devil Mole Crab Helm - armor rating from default (6) to 15

? Devil Helm - armor rating from default (5) to 15

? Dwemer Battle Shield - armor rating from 40 to 45

? Dwemer Boots of Flying - armor rating from 30 to 40

? Fiend Helm - armor rating from default (5) to 15

? Gauntlet(s) of Glory - weight from default (1.5) to 1.0, health from default (25) to 50

? Gauntlet of Horny Fist - value from default (15) to 150

? Glove of Horny Fist - value from default (10) to 100, health from default (25) to 100

? Gothren's Cephalopod Helm - armor rating from default (8) to 15

? Helmet of Bearkind - armor rating from 30 to 20

? Helm of Bear Scent - armor rating from 30 to 20

? The Icecap - weight from default (1.5) to 1.0

? Merisan Cuirass - value from default (55) to 150, health from default (150) to 250

? Merisan Helm - value from default (45) to 150

? Saint's Shield - armor rating from 50 to default (60)

? Shadow Shield - armor rating from 30 to 40

? Shield of the Undaunted - value from default (85) to 250, health from default (200) to 150

? Shield of Wounds - armor rating from 30 to 40

? Spirit of Indoril - health from default (900) to 400, armor rating from 50 to 40

? Succour of Indoril - health from default (900) to 400, armor rating from 50 to 40

? Veloth's Tower Shield - value from default (150) to 200, health from default (100) to 250

? Velothian Helm - value from default (75) to 150

? Velothian Shield - value from default (85) to 200, health from default (200) to 150

? Vivec Ashmask - value from 500 to 100

» Sun Aug 08, 2010 10:14 pm

Release!

» Sun Aug 08, 2010 8:43 am

awesome, is th download link on his mod list

» Sun Aug 08, 2010 10:06 pm

Release!

I still have to double-check my documentation and then make sure that I'm also incorporating all of the appropriate MPP bugfixes.

» Sun Aug 08, 2010 8:33 am

All righty...

I'm at work at the moment, but the overnight shift gives me free time to work on this. I'm still doing the documentation and making some last-minute changes based on my obsessive checking over my edit list. This *will* be released when I get off in the morning.

» Sun Aug 08, 2010 1:22 pm

Could you perhaps let arielle sell torches, for people playing the morrowind overhaul, couldn't hurt.
-Tyfyp