Seems you were right about their ownership, but underestimate the virsatility of the company.

http://investing.businessweek.com/research/stocks/private/snapshot.asp?privcapId=7919802

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Obsidian_Entertainment

I realize wikipedia isnt a source, but it has a good list of games under Obsidians banner. I guess Bethesda wouldnt incorporate them because they dont necessarily focus on a specific type of game, but rather cooperate with numerous companies for their game development. I'm not even sure why I'm arguing a mute point, lol.

I don't want to get into an argument over Obsidian here, but the list of games I listed, I only got from that article. They've only developed and released three games so far. The rest in that list haven't been released yet. I'm just saying. :shrug:

My bad, I didn't see that they actually commissioned them to make a game, I thought that they just had a publishing deal worked out before they were bought by Zenimax. I think Arx 2 would be a great addition to their line-up of upcoming games but yeah, I see your point it doesn't make much sense.

I didnt mean to start an argument, sorry if that is what it seemed to be. I was just articulating why Zenimax would not see Obsidian a a studio to aquire, but rather one to work with cooperattively. That being said, I believe Obsidian could likely do better at making a Fallout game than Bethesda has...IF they already have the framework in place like using what Bethesda already had in place after Fallout 3 was in place. But yes, I absolutely see your point. They arent proven, especially after the bugginess that is Alpha Protocol.

I'd say TES V and Fallout 4. We know they initially planned to make more Fallout games and by the time they release that second title New Vegas will no longer be a recent title.


A while back Bethesda mentioned that an advantage to New Vegas was that people wouldn't have to wait so long for another Fallout title. This suggests two things to me:

First, Bethesda is planning another Fallout game.
Second, Bethesda is planning a similar arrangement with the Elder Scrolls.

The latter one has obvious implications within this thread. If Bethesda is finishing off TES V it's quite possible that Arkane could be working on an Elder Scrolls spin-off that will fill the gap before the next game. I realize earlier I was arguing against Arkane working on an Elder Scrolls game but I'm open to several scenarios

Also correct me if I'm wrong but didn't we hear something about Arkane working on two titles? That would suggest their next game isn't Elder Scrolls related but the second one may be.

You heard right. They are currently working on one for Bethesda (Todd Howard stated that BGS had approached them to do so) and the other is an unannounced title. It wont be a Might and Magic title, as Arkane doesnt own the rights. It could be Arx 2, but that was put on indefinate hold when they were working on Bioshock 2. Its like the riddle, "2 pieces of change add up to 30 cents. One isnt a nickle, so what are they?" The answer is a nickle and a quarter. One isnt a nickle but the other one is.

The idea that Beth would want spinoffs made by other companies makes sense, as they would want to make the mold and see what another company can do with it, all so they can contiue to innovate and set the bar.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Crossing_(video_game)

This Arkane project was likely canceled because of its similarities to Brink. Almost the exact gameplay formula.

I would not doubt this (not replying to EatsDaWolf). With Bethesda's plate already pretty full of in development games (Brink, Hunted:deamon forge, Rage, new Vegas) it would seem unlikely that they would have time, or resources to be working on an Elder scrolls game right now.

But, do not stress about this gap between games. Between Daggerfall in 1996 and Morrowind in 2002 there was a six year gap between games, longer than the 5 year gap we have currently. With the technological developments seen in Morrowind compaired to Daggerfall it is likely that they began development on Morrowind right after Daggerfall was released.

Unlike now, Bethesda managed to release 2 smaller games in that timeframe to keep their faitfull gamers satisfyed untill distant release of Morrowind.
The main reason why we do not have "appitizer" games now is because frankly Bethesda has bigger fish to fry. Fallout 3 was a huge success and they are already capitializing (no pun intended) on the post-appoclictic theme right now. Which unfortunatly for us is more successfull than the elderscrolls.

So that is why I can see Bethesda outsorcing the scrolls to another developer for the time being. At least we have the Infernal City, and the proposed second book.

Every single title that has a forum here besides TES and Fallout, such as Brink or RAGE, is being published by Bethesda Softworks. Bethesda Game Studios is not making any of them. The very last game Bethesda made was Fallout 3, back in October 2008. Bethesda Game Studios is currently making two games, and one of them is likely to be TES V, and the other Fallout 4. But we don't know for sure. But my point is, Bethesda Game Studios has not announced a new game, or released a new game, since Fallout 3.