Have a problem with the oblivion XP mod. I'm running FCOM and some other mods as well and it has worked perfectly before I installed this mod. The problem is that my XP goes crazy when I load a save(when the mod is initializing). I'm constantly gaining xp after load, and there is a constant ticking sound (the same as when you gain xp). I remember this happening once before also, but don't remember how I fixed it.

What is wrong here?

You should http://sites.google.com/site/oblivionpoinfo/troubleshooting/postlo (preferably with Wrye Bash), and you should also post in...

Edit: Wrong author, see the post below...oops...

actually http://www.gamesas.com/index.php?/topic/1047730-relz-oblivion-xp/ (the thread for Oblivion XP.)

Yeah...about that...thanks, always nice to have the right link...


Edit: ...awkward...

Uhm..that thread is kind of..err..

Ahaha it kind of pains me that i'm one of the first users of that mod since the very first version(2.0..wow memories) and I can't help anyone with it because it's a very complex mod. Really only SF can properly troubleshoot problems with it -.-.

Ok, thanx I'll check out the thread. But anyways here is my load order:



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Better Oblivion Sorting Software Load Order Utility

© Random007 & the BOSS development team, 2009
Some rights reserved.
CC Attribution-Noncommercial-No Derivative Works 3.0
http://creativecommons.org/licenses/by-nc-nd/3.0/
v1.35 (23 June 09)
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Master .ESM date: Mon Jan 01 23:28:08 2001
FCOM detected.


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Recognised and re-ordered mod files:
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Oblivion.esm

Francesco's Leveled Creatures-Items Mod.esm

Francesco's Optional New Items Add-On.esm

MD_Saddle_Master.esm

Oscuro's_Oblivion_Overhaul.esm

Mart's Monster Mod.esm

FCOM_Convergence.esm

Kvatch Rebuilt.esm

HorseCombatMaster.esm

Unofficial Oblivion Patch.esp
. Bashed Patch tag suggestion: {{BASH:C.Climate,C.Light,C.Owner,Delev,Invent,Names,Relev,Stats,Relations}} and remove the C.Water tag.

DLCShiveringIsles.esp

Unofficial Shivering Isles Patch.esp
. Note: Remember to use the 'MOBS' version when using Francesco's and FCOM.
. Note: Newest MOBS and non-MOBS versions have the same name.
. Bashed Patch tag suggestion: {{BASH:C.Light,C.Owner,Invent,Names,Stats,Delev}}

Fra.esp
. Note: BSA redirection hack. Usually refers to FraNewItems.BSA
. Note: Using a file to load a BSA means the BSA must NOT be listed in Oblivion.ini at the same time or the game will not load.
. Note: This is ususally only a problem when automatic installers insert the name into Oblivion.ini then the user creates a BSA redirection file later.

Francesco's Optional Chance of Stronger Bosses.esp

Francesco's Optional Chance of Stronger Enemies.esp

Francesco's Optional Chance of More Enemies.esp

Francesco's Optional Leveled Guards.esp
. Note: Requires Shivering Isles expansion.

FCOM_Francescos.esp
. Note: Francesco's Leveled Creatures-Items 4.5b required.

FCOM_FrancescosItemsAddOn.esp
. Note: Francesco's Leveled Creatures-Items 4.5b required.
. Note: Francesco's supplementary addon package required.

FCOM_FrancescosNamedBosses.esp
. Note: Francesco's Leveled Creatures-Items 4.5b required.

Living Economy - SI.esp
. Note: Don't use 'Living Economy' and 'Living Economy - SI' together. Pick one. Requires Shivering Isles expansion.

Living Economy - Items.esp

Cutthroat Merchants.esp

DLCHorseArmor.esp

DLCHorseArmor - Unofficial Patch.esp

DLCOrrery.esp

DLCOrrery - Unofficial Patch.esp

DLCVileLair.esp

DLCVileLair - Unofficial Patch.esp

DLCMehrunesRazor.esp

DLCMehrunesRazor - Unofficial Patch.esp

DLCSpellTomes.esp
. Bashed Patch tag suggestion: {{BASH:Relev}}

DLCSpellTomes - Unofficial Patch.esp
. Note: Not compatible with 'CDM-CGO Compatibility plugins'.

CapesandCloaks.esp

MD Saddlebags V3.0.esp

DLCThievesDen.esp

DLCThievesDen - Unofficial Patch.esp

DLCThievesDen - Unofficial Patch - SSSB.esp

Bob's Armory Oblivion.esp
. Note: Requires 'FCOM_BobsArmory.esp'.

FCOM_BobsArmory.esp
. Note: Requires 'Bob's Armory Oblivion.esp'.

Oblivion WarCry EV.esp
. Note: Requires either 'FCOM_WarCry.esp' or 'FCOM_WarCryNoSpawn.esp'.

FCOM_WarCry.esp
. Note: Use either 'FCOM_WarCry.esp' or 'FCOM_WarCryNoSpawn.esp', not both.

Oscuro's_Oblivion_Overhaul.esp

FCOM_Convergence.esp

FCOM_RealSwords.esp

Kvatch Rebuilt.esp

Kvatch Rebuilt - OOO Compatibility.esp

Kvatch Rebuilt - Leveled Guards - FCOM.esp

Servant of the Dawn.esp

DLCFrostcrag.esp
. Bashed Patch tag suggestion: {{BASH:C.Owner}}

DLCFrostcrag - Unofficial Patch.esp
. Note: Possible conflict with Frostcrag Reborn. Do not use both or land tearing will occur.

Knights.esp

Knights - Unofficial Patch.esp

The Lost Spires.esp

FCOM_Knights.esp
. Bashed Patch tag suggestion: {{BASH:Delev,Relev}}
. Note: Requires DLC 'Knights.esp'.

Harvest [Flora].esp

Harvest [Flora] - Shivering Isles.esp

Harvest [Flora] - DLCVileLair.esp

Harvest [Flora] - DLCFrostcrag.esp

Compass-Disable_POIs.esp

Compass-Disable_QuestMarkers.esp

Compass-Disable_Both.esp

Alternative Start by Robert Evrae.esp
. Bashed Patch tag suggestion: {{BASH:Relations}}

Drokk's Vampire Mod.esp

No psychic guards v1.2.esp

Deadly Reflex 5 - Timed Block with no damage or durability changes.esp
. Note: Use no more than one Timed Block ESP.

DeadlyReflex 5 - Combat Moves.esp
. Note: See http://fastfreeupload.com/download.php?file=63DRtestfix.zip for a hotfix for CTD issues.

Smarter Mercantile Leveling - Multi.esp

Oblivion XP.esp

Francesco's 10 days respawn time - 1-20 day lenght rescale.esp

AznarsLifeDetect.esp

Bashed Patch, 0.esp

CleanQuit.esp

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Unrecognised mod files:
Reorder these by hand using your favourite mod ordering utility.
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Unknown mod file: Ranokoas City Stealth Exits.esp


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Done.

Use the bashed patch to print your load order, not the BOSS log. Right-click on the "File" tab in Wrye Bash, and use the "List mods" function.

Active Mod Files:00  Oblivion.esm01  Francesco's Leveled Creatures-Items Mod.esm02  Francesco's Optional New Items Add-On.esm03  MD_Saddle_Master.esm04  Oscuro's_Oblivion_Overhaul.esm  [Version 1.34]05  Mart's Monster Mod.esm  [Version 3.7b1]06  FCOM_Convergence.esm  [Version 0.9.9a7]07  Kvatch Rebuilt.esm08  HorseCombatMaster.esm09  Unofficial Oblivion Patch.esp  [Version 3.2.0]0A  DLCShiveringIsles.esp0B  Unofficial Shivering Isles Patch.esp  [Version 1.4.0]0C  Fra.esp0D  Francesco's Optional Chance of Stronger Bosses.esp0E  Francesco's Optional Chance of Stronger Enemies.esp0F  Francesco's Optional Chance of More Enemies.esp10  Francesco's Optional Leveled Guards.esp11  FCOM_Francescos.esp  [Version 0.9.9]12  FCOM_FrancescosItemsAddOn.esp  [Version 0.9.9]13  FCOM_FrancescosNamedBosses.esp  [Version 0.9.9]14  Living Economy - SI.esp15  Living Economy - Items.esp16  Cutthroat Merchants.esp17  DLCHorseArmor.esp18  DLCHorseArmor - Unofficial Patch.esp  [Version 1.0.5]19  DLCOrrery.esp1A  DLCOrrery - Unofficial Patch.esp  [Version 1.0.3]1B  DLCVileLair.esp1C  DLCVileLair - Unofficial Patch.esp  [Version 1.0.5]1D  DLCMehrunesRazor.esp1E  DLCMehrunesRazor - Unofficial Patch.esp  [Version 1.0.4]1F  DLCSpellTomes.esp20  DLCSpellTomes - Unofficial Patch.esp  [Version 1.0.1]21  CapesandCloaks.esp22  MD Saddlebags v3.0.esp23  DLCThievesDen.esp24  DLCThievesDen - Unofficial Patch.esp  [Version 1.0.5]25  DLCThievesDen - Unofficial Patch - SSSB.esp  [Version 1.0.4]26  Bob's Armory Oblivion.esp27  FCOM_BobsArmory.esp  [Version 0.9.9]28  Oblivion WarCry EV.esp29  FCOM_WarCry.esp  [Version 0.9.9]2A  Oscuro's_Oblivion_Overhaul.esp  [Version 1.33]2B  FCOM_Convergence.esp  [Version 0.9.9]2C  FCOM_RealSwords.esp  [Version 0.9.9]2D  Kvatch Rebuilt.esp2E  Kvatch Rebuilt - OOO Compatibility.esp2F  Kvatch Rebuilt - Leveled Guards - FCOM.esp30  Servant of the Dawn.esp31  DLCFrostcrag.esp32  DLCFrostcrag - Unofficial Patch.esp  [Version 1.0.4]33  Knights.esp34  Knights - Unofficial Patch.esp  [Version 1.0.9]35  The Lost Spires.esp36  FCOM_Knights.esp  [Version 0.9.9]37  Harvest [Flora].esp  [Version 3.0.0]38  Harvest [Flora] - Shivering Isles.esp  [Version 3.0.0]39  Harvest [Flora] - DLCVileLair.esp  [Version 3.0.0]3A  Harvest [Flora] - DLCFrostcrag.esp  [Version 3.0.0]3B  Alternative Start by Robert Evrae.esp3C  Drokk's Vampire Mod.esp3D  No psychic guards v1.2.esp3E  Deadly Reflex 5 - Timed Block with no damage or durability changes.esp3F  DeadlyReflex 5 - Combat Moves.esp40  Smarter Mercantile Leveling - Multi.esp41  Oblivion XP.esp  [Version 4.1.5]42  Francesco's 10 days respawn time - 1-20 day lenght rescale.esp43  AznarsLifeDetect.esp44  Bashed Patch, 0.esp45  CleanQuit.esp46  Ranokoas City Stealth Exits.esp  [Version 2.2]

A suggestion(and it might fix the problem)

Remove this - 40 Smarter Mercantile Leveling - Multi.esp

Because ObXP handles that and all the other skills(you're in control of you skill progression this time and not the system).

Also get the OBSE 18 version of ObXP if you haven't..and is using OBSE18.

http://www.gamesas.com/index.php?/topic/1084290-relzmartsmonstermod37b3-public-release-3-relz/ <--needs updating
http://www.gamesas.com/index.php?/topic/1066876-relz-unofficial-oblivion-patch-320-and-324-hotfixes-relz/ <---needs updating

Gotta have Darnified UI for ObXP or Dark UI. (Im unfamiliar with others).

Use Fast Quit instead of clean quit, and you need to upgrade OOO to the latest version for FCOM. Take the unused plugins in your data folder out, uninstalling them, and make sure that the Oblivion XP leveling menus are installed. Make sure you have the right versions for your UI (or Vanilla) installed.

To clarify, his MMM, OOO and FCOM could all be updated, but what he has at the moment is balanced, just not the most recent.

However, the fact that the OOO.esm says 1.34 and the OOO.esp says 1.33 is very likely to be problematic.

Upgrading all three is recommended, but if you haven't installed MMM with BAIN or OBMM, then it will require some extra steps.

No I don't think I used OBMM for MMM. Remember it was a mess to get i working. And I also just installed mercentile leveling right before oblivion xp so that can be it.

Mercantile leveling (Is that the real name of the mod?) does not have a menu XML file that conflicts with Oblivion XP, or does it?

It's called "smarter mercentile leveling" I have no idea if it conflicts but Terra Nova stated that it may fix the problem.

Well it worked. Just deactivated smarter mercantile leveling and no more crazy experience. Had to load a save before I started using XP though. Probably have to get around to updating some mods also, and thanks for the help.

I'm glad to hear that.

Well I just said the UI bit because often people forget about that part.

Just to note for future users: There can be no mod, no matter what else it does not edit that changes the way any skill or attribute advances. When there is one, it breaks ObXP. This is why it is sadly incompatible with things like willful resistance, progress and nGCD.

I usually make that recommendation too. I was confused about which merc leveling mod the OP was referring to, and I had not heard of a merc leveling mod (with that sort of name) that had a menu file. The UI issues get people all over the place: leveling mods, DarN fonts, hotkey mod conflicts, other random UI mods (that are not obviously, I guess, UI mods.)

Acctually the mercantile mod wasn't the problem. It was a backup save program called INCREMENTAL SAVER which I have been using to keep my savegames from becoming corrupt. I really would like to keep on using a program like it. Anyone know if there are any that doesent conflict with OBLIVION XP?

Kuertee's Auto Save and Time works fine with Oblivion XP.

I'm pretty sure Streamline does as well.

I would definitely use Kuertee's autosave mod if it were compatible with Streamline. Does someone happen to know if they work together with SL's autosaves turned off. (That is my favorite SL feature too.)

I have both running right now.

ASAT is taking care of saving, timescale, PCB and crucified corpses.

Streamline is only using Streamsmooth and Streamsight.

O_o now why would that conflict with it..

and SL definitely is compatible(or I would not be using ObXP).

ASAT is a funny acronym, but I am definitely looking forward to adding that one to my setup.