Yup! They don't hate the citizens, merely the country's mentality.

Staging a land invasion of America is stupid. Not even the Japanese considered it.

Invading itself is stupid.

The US isn't without its own allies. Plus it has the largest navy in the world, which is important considering there's an ocean separating North Korea and China from the United States.

Edit: I don't think either side would be able to gain a foothold on the other. Without nuclear weapons China is too numerous and the US fleet is too large. With nuclear weapons taken into account both sides are potentially screwed.

It depends, if you staged aggressive repetitive bombings on one area of coast you could punch a hole in the defense (whilst obviously changing the position of your aircraft carriers of course), by the time the Americans feel it necessary to nuke the invaders they'd be at their doorstep

Rommel wasn't defeated, nor did he surrender, he was disillusioned with the Nazi ideal, got involved in a plot to assassinate Hitler, Hitler found out, knew Rommel was too popular to execute, and that many would side with him (he couldn't afford a German civil War as well as WW2) so he pomised Rommel his family wouldn't be punished if he committed suicide

We need evil mongolians.

Yes yes, that's how he died. But there was a time when he lost a battle to General Montgomery and General Patton...because he had barely any rations.

Tat was more because Hitler was a [censored] and decided Rommel was a good enough General to do without, not due to Rommels incompetence,

Does anyone else remember the Rommel quote "Give me Australian soldiers and German Officers, and I will give you the world", I took this to mean that the German soldiers couldn't keep up with te German army's Regime

i dont think many americans would be opposed to playing a game where the US was the bad guy. look it how many movies and games their already are with the government as the center of some conspiracy. americans love beating up on our own government. personally i would love to play a game where the US went all nutsoid and started taking over the world. you could either side with them or help a resistance that is trying to get rid of its government.

my current favorite shooter is STALKER, where americans and other western countries are essentially the bad guys in the game. im assuming that cause the mercenaries are always using western weapons. doesnt phase me one bit. i even played a couple of STALKER games where i played the Soviet anthem and the music from red october and im libertarian. :laugh: the only thing that could have made it better was if i my character was running around cursing in russian and saying "die for mother russia you capitalist pig"

I liked the storyline, and it was set during the Vietnamese-Cold war times, so it makes sense that the Russians are the bad guys...
I also thought the story had a nice twist.

If anyone's the bad guys its the Zone and C-Consciousness. The Mercenaries bosses are never stated, though it's clear the Americans are interested in the zone, because there's a crashed Predator drone by Yanov station. (Also, freedom uses NATO weapons) You really can't say that Americans are the "bad guys" though in STALKER. It's the Zone and the Monolith faction who are the real problems.

It's not as simple as that. North Korea is vastly weaker than the U.S, and doesn't have the infrastructure to cross the pacific and directly attack the U.S. Also, any attempt to do so would result in U.S and south Korean troops crossing the 38th parallel. If North Korea were somehow able to take South Korea (they wouldn't be able to by the way. It'd be just like the Korean war, we'd beat them so far back China would help 'em out to prevent America from taking total control over Korea), then America would simply stage further attacks from Japan. So that's two countries North Korea would have to invade and take first, and in each case their fighting the Americans. Also, there is always the risk of America nuking North Korea. If it ever got bad, everyone in Pyongyang would be dead before sunrise. Assuming North Korea, despite all the odds, crossed the pacific, defeated the American navy, and made landfall, their still royally [censored]. America will have a level of air superiority that the north Koreans simply WON'T be able to beat. They'd get wiped out from the air, and land. If North Korea tried to cross the continent by land, their army will get crushed by American troops and civilians. (IN case you didn't realize, we have trained civilian militias armed with assault weapons, that don't have any government affiliation. A ready-made resistance force, sometimes consisting of U.S military Veterans. Combine that with our aggressive and sometimes armed regular citizenry.) Seriously, A land invasion of the modern U.S mainland will result in failure, especially for a country as WEAK as North Korea.


Your overestimating them.

Completely unrealistic conclusion.

edit: Most productive use of accidental doublepost ever!

We need giant mutated sea horse of doom !! Beware of the sea horse !!

The horrible plots of MW2 and Black Ops are really further underscored by how well-written Call of Duty 4: Modern Warfare was.

I first thought that Unreal Tournament 3 had a [censored] plot, but then I had a profound realization: it's a joke! It's making fun of that other Epic franchise, Gears of War, and doing it brilliantly.

I assume you're talking about Die Another Day, only you must have been heavily sedated when you watched it since that is not even close to the plot - the laser was actually just a bunch of mirrors directing heat from the sun or something, and there was a hovercraft chase over a minefield, but I'm fairly sure the Koreans never planned to invade the US with them :huh:

The real joke here is that they delayed the game to add the single player campaign.

Nobody doubts that. But since the game isn't about this, it's irrelevant anyway. ^_^

I would doubt that anyone could take over the entire world anymore... There are enough countries with nuclear weapons that if a country came to a point where it was near surrendering it would push that big red button.

However, to much realism doesn't make a fun game

"Ghost Recon", though an older game, seems realistic to me in retrospect. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tom_Clancy%27s_Ghost_Recon_(video_game) Russian nationalists reconquer Belarus and other former Soviet territories, etc.

Yea Nukes pretty would pretty keep everyone in check. Neither side could be pushed to far or everyone loses.

I dont hate American based games, I hate "America good, communists evil, we kill commies" Its always the [censored] russians invading. I dont see Russia obssessing over A WAR THAT NEVER HAPPENED, America cant get the [censored] over it. ZP is pretty damn accurate in his Blops review "Its hard not to look at all these war games where Russian invaded America and not be reminded of fan fiction. America is a fat teen virgin lying on her front, on her bed stareing up at her Edward and Bella poster while crossing and uncrossing her ankles, and dreamingly writing creepy stories." America is just obsessed, and that obsession is getting annoying, especially when they are still portraying RUssia as some bad guy with ambitions to take over the world and spread "the evils of communism". The guy who wrote homefront also wrote red dawn (where suprose suprise its the communists again), they just cant let [censored] go.
And thats one of the reasons people dont like America the "world police" attitude. America sees communism then interferes, and your country is clearly still obsessed with the damn thing, movies, books, games.

Even MW2 you dragged Russia into it, then black ops you drag Russians into it. Why do you always drag Russia into something ? You could have just had terrorists in MW2 but no.
MW3 (out this year) will also involve evil russians, so will the next CoD, and the next, and so on.


As far as I am aware Canada dosent hate anyone. Not canadian, but they just dont seem like an anti American country.


A war wont happen, EVER. See people who are "world peace no nukes" arent that bright, countries dont attacke eachoeh for several reasons, they depend on eachother economically, and they dont like dying. If Korea did invade, and America felt it was going to lose they would push the big red button, suddenly Korea would stop existing, if Korea had enough nukes, then America wouldnt, countries dont fight because of mutually assured destruction, now Koreas leader may be crazy, but I doubt he is bat[censored] insane, and China will NEVER want Korea to invade, becuase their economy is tied to America's. If Korea even tried to do something harmfull to Chinas interests e.g invade America, China could stp all those resources and [censored]slap N.Korea to make it behave. China is the only freind N Korea has, a powerful friend, but China wont let them [censored] things up. Korea invading is very unrealistic. Most of the wars are fought one sided anyway, when every country has nukes you will se wars vanish unless that country has a deathwish.

If I'm not mistaken, there plan was to cross the DMZ and invade South Korea. Hovercraft could go over South Korean minefields without activating the mines.

um......i think your falling for the north koreans propaganda about their troops. secondly, we won every single major battle in vietnam including the tet offensive where after their initial push we came back and annhiliated their armor. it was only after the bulk of the american troops left that they overpowered the south vietnamese troops. we lost around 55,000 men they lost over 2 million, not exactly close. the war was lost because of politics, not the brilliance of the viet cong.

Don't they unify north and south before attacking?

From what I can remember both North and South has some pretty large sized armies. Combined they might be able to do something. :shrug:
And I think they say they had quite an easy time as most American forces are in the Middle East.