How did the chinese get to Alaska?

Post » Fri May 27, 2011 3:08 am

Someone once posted that russia was an ally of america, but even if this is not true, they were certainly not a friend of china. So how did China get to Alaska? I don't know that area very well so there could be nation china could own and launch attacks from there. So any thoughts?
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Suzie Dalziel
 
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Post » Fri May 27, 2011 2:43 pm

Someone once posted that russia was an ally of america, but even if this is not true, they were certainly not a friend of china. So how did China get to Alaska? I don't know that area very well so there could be nation china could own and launch attacks from there. So any thoughts?


Look at a chinese globe...
Chinese globes are centered on china and thus China is not at one end and America at the other...
http://www.chinahighlights.com/image/map/locationmap-original.jpg
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Gracie Dugdale
 
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Post » Fri May 27, 2011 2:09 pm

And it's not unfeasible that China invaded the Soviet Union first as well, annexing Siberia.
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Lisa
 
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Post » Fri May 27, 2011 4:51 am

it's a alternate universe and china is bordering north east russia, wich is bordering alaska by only a narrow wild 'street' ... china most likely more powerfull than russia at all, i might to think by 2070 they invaded Japan far before that, south east asia, and parts of soviet republic's .... in risk the boardgame you can cross to north america by north east asia ....
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Tamika Jett
 
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Post » Fri May 27, 2011 1:34 am

Since I doubt, that the People's Liberation Army, could have outdone the Soviet Red Army, I would suggest that the People's Liberation Army Navy(PLAN), in the Fallout Universe was a full blue water navy, rather then being more of a brown water navy, as it is in our world.
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Emma Copeland
 
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Post » Fri May 27, 2011 1:32 pm

I don't know...Maybe "Al-Ask-er"

*sigh*

http://fallout.wikia.com/wiki/Fallout_Wiki
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Heather Kush
 
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Post » Fri May 27, 2011 4:14 am

How do Americans get to Alaska, what with Canada in the way and all that? I'd *imagine* the Chinese either went through their ally/vassal (USSR) just like contiguous Americans would (Canada). Or just sailed from China, which is also plausible. Seems a question that can be answered fairly obviously, unless I'm missing something here.
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Milad Hajipour
 
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Post » Fri May 27, 2011 9:03 am

you might check a map or a atlas if you want to know it for sure, asia and north america are not so far between each other ...
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Brian Newman
 
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Post » Fri May 27, 2011 4:46 pm

I gotta agree with the Russia angle. If you can see it from Alaska, surely you can swim between the two.
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Sebrina Johnstone
 
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Post » Fri May 27, 2011 1:21 pm

I gotta agree with the Russia angle. If you can see it from Alaska, surely you can swim between the two.


Why would you swim between the two? A more common sense approach would be that the PLAN(People's Liberation Army Navy), has an actual "Bluewater" fleet in the Fallout Universe unlike the "Brownwater" capability it has in our universe. A massed "D-DAY" style landing is just more likely!
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Post » Fri May 27, 2011 10:19 am

Why would you swim between the two? A more common sense approach would be that the PLAN(People's Liberation Army Navy), has an actual "Bluewater" fleet in the Fallout Universe unlike the "Brownwater" capability it has in our universe. A massed "D-DAY" style landing is just more likely!


I might suggest, instead of wild suggestions like China can only invade America through the Bering Straight, that, when considering the Chinese attacked first, a huge surprise assault on Anchorage is plausible. In our own time, Chinese naval forces are slowly coming on par with American naval forces, even in some cases surpassing the restraints of American Carrier reliance (Mercenary's Mace and the advantage of the huge Chinese submarine fleet), especially in a surprise attack you wouldn't need that complicated a naval force. Without ports in Anchorage and wolf packs obviously roaming the American shoreline (Shi Empire), it would be a damnable experience to stop an invasion and that invasion holding onto their primary beachhead, which would mean a huge battle inland. When you count the naval confrontation near Alaska and the American fleet attacking China (Mercenary's Mace) in retaliation after Alaska was liberated would explain why much of the Pacific Fleet was gone.
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Post » Fri May 27, 2011 6:10 am

They probably didn't declare war until most of the troops were already there... As for how they got there.. they went east
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Post » Fri May 27, 2011 3:26 am

I gotta agree with the Russia angle. If you can see it from Alaska, surely you can swim between the two.

lol do you realize how dangerous the Bering Straight is ?
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Minako
 
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Post » Fri May 27, 2011 12:36 pm

Well from the DLC,
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The Chinese invaded through the sea from the holotapes about so many warships hammering the Anchorage bases.


Or maybe it was a combined effort of Bering Strait and a sea invasion?
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Post » Fri May 27, 2011 4:13 pm

I'm thinking just invasion.

Or, also, Russia doesn't have much military now, and at the moment China is rapidly advancing.
In the fallout universe China could have become very powerful, invading eastern russia, and such.

OR, invaded islands across the pacific, leaving bases for attacks.

Think about America Vs. Japan a little bit.
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Post » Fri May 27, 2011 7:11 am

Russia have one the best armies in the world, the fall of the Soviet Union just allowed for then to reorganize their military.

And the Soviet Union still existed in the Fallout Universe (Natalia's biography in Fallout 1), even if unknown its status.

As for China ... well they run out of oil and the reason they taken Alaska was due to the Alaska oil resources (similar, the USA invaded Canada for land access to Alaska in order to retake it) ... Serious people, this is ancient history.
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Laura Samson
 
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Post » Fri May 27, 2011 7:53 am

ya the holotape said it made the pearl harbor fleet look like battalion drills
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Nikki Hype
 
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Post » Fri May 27, 2011 6:05 pm

through russia
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Rhiannon Jones
 
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Post » Fri May 27, 2011 2:10 pm

Boats.

Seriously, it's not that strange. Let's say you want to attack someone. That someone is across a body of water from you. What do you do? You use a boat.
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Post » Fri May 27, 2011 2:40 pm

Well, I'd suppose that Alaska wasn't a well defended military outpost to begin with. So the chineese didn't need to ship a million men in one night, rather a small (a hundred thousand tops maybe?) well equipped assault force, spreading them through the west alaskan coast. And as theese would march east/south, drop more and more troops on the established beachheads. Constantly pounding any (weak) ressistance through ships and air strikes for the more distant ptargets. Think blietzkrieg.
Such a strategy would need a fast smaller fleet, rather than a massive armada, making a sea drop more feasible and desirable for the chineese rather than having to deal with the USSR and the Berring Strait. Even if the USSR is a vassal to China, it'd still cause massive delays and give the US ability to figure out what's going on (spies in the union?).

On top of that, you'd need to march the army north... then go to Alaska... and then south. During an oil crisis that wouldn't be a smart solution.

Now why didn't China simply drop the troops on the west coast and try to take over the states themselves is beyond me.
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